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Who owns "P4" 0858

Discussion in 'Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)' started by TZ 750, Feb 20, 2014.

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  1. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
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    #1 TZ 750, Feb 20, 2014
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2014
    Lots of discussion here
    about "P4" 0858.

    Shown in several threads.

    One of the most historic Ferrari cars,
    and one of the most discussed.

    Who owns the car ?
     
  2. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
    Consultant

    Mar 4, 2005
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    Is this important??? Does it have any relevance to the historical provenance of the car?
     
  3. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Hmmmm................

    In 20 years,
    will it be important ?

    10 years ?

    Beautiful car and display
    at RETROMOBILE 2014.

    OF COURSE it's important !
     
  4. readplays

    readplays Formula 3

    Aug 22, 2008
    2,348
    New York City
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    Dave Powers
    It's clearly not important if posting the question in both the 0858 thread and the 330 P4 at 2014 Paris Retromobile thread simultaneously, while at the same time starting this thread, is all the effort one is willing to make.
    If it were important, TZ750 would have started a new Sub-Forum in Vintage above Vintage Ferrari Market, Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies and Vintage Driving Machines.
    That section would be entitled 'Who Owns "P4" 0858'.

    So Vintage would look like this;

    Vintage (thru 365 GTC4)
    Who Owns "P4" 0858
    Vintage Ferrari Market
    Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies
    Vintage Driving Machines
     
  5. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    In 10 years its important, yes. Then the fiscal and/or economical situation may have changed....but not now!
     
  6. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,034
    Cardiff, UK
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    Steven Robertson
    And you accuse me of writing gibberish. Pots and kettles!!! :)
     
  7. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Total nonsense !

    Actually, yes, I have to ask repeatedly!

    This car is one of the most evocative
    and charismatic cars ever built by Ferrari,
    and one of the most coveted.

    Since there are so few of them, knowing
    the owners (and protectors, and conservators, etc)
    is important to the Ferrari World.

    With this beautiful car displayed at RETROMOBILE 2014,
    with "The Transporter," it is obvious that SOMEONE, has
    done a LOT of research, spent a lot of time and money
    to produce this display for us to see - mostly at no cost to us !

    Whoever it is, deserves a lot of credit, and yes, maybe adulation
    for having the dedication and (dare I say it...) the
    financial "throw weight" to bring all this together.

    YES, I want to know MORE about this person !

    1) Does he have other Ferrari cars ?

    2) Is he a member here ?

    3) Does he show his cars ?

    4) How can I thank him for what he has done for us ?

    Get a grip, my friends........

    Scott
     
  8. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by VIZSLA View Post
    Then you can't be all bad.

    My question is asked out of simple curiosity.
    I have opinions but no dog in this fight.

    Owners have every right to anonymity
    but if its up for sale why not say so?

    If it's found a home it's all
    to the good as well.



    David:

    You make the point quite well,
    and I am willing to stop asking
    "the question" now that you
    have summerized it.

    I feel that I have made my REASONS
    for asking quite clear, and that if the
    owner does NOT want to be known,
    that's fine !

    So, until he posts on FChat, let's
    drop the discussion, with no
    "Speculation, etc."

    Cheers, Scott
     
  9. wpbekker

    wpbekker Formula Junior

    Dec 27, 2006
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    Holland
    Full Name:
    Wouter Bekker
    Friedhelm Loh
     
  10. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula 3

    Jan 4, 2012
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    Bill Henley
    According to March 2013 Forbes list, worth $2.6 billion. Friedhelm Loh - Forbes . Probably can afford some body and fender work.
     
  11. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by wbaeumer View Post
    Admire the car and be happy
    that you saw it. And thats it.

    If you want to kiss someones hands,
    go to Las Vegas or meet the Pope.....:)



    Thank you Walter, but I am not so much into "kissing hands,"
    unless of course you were Sofia Loren.

    I enjoy conversations with those I admire
    and respect, of whatever status.

    I have stood and chatted with the fastest
    automobile drivers in the world,
    and I am HARD to impress.

    Thanks for this tip:

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/vintage-ferrari-market/203096-merged-250-gto-sold-$20-million-4.html

    Friedhelm Loh

    Post # 68.

    Seems to not be a man who "shuns publicity"
     
  12. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    Well, if Walter was correct,
    this all took less than
    24 hours to "solve."

    And, if Mr. Loh is in fact the owner, it would
    be hard to find a Ferrari owner on the Planet
    with LESS privacy !
     
  13. 180 Out

    180 Out Formula 3

    Jan 4, 2012
    1,210
    San Leandro, CA
    Full Name:
    Bill Henley
    Also probably can afford not to give a flying frig about what anyone, including the marketplace, thinks about his car.
     
  14. VIZSLA

    VIZSLA Four Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Sarasota
    Full Name:
    David
    Fine by me.
     
  15. wbaeumer

    wbaeumer F1 Veteran
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    Mar 4, 2005
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    Yep, this is what I wrote - but that had been censored by the administrator...::((
     
  16. TZ 750

    TZ 750 Formula Junior

    Jul 18, 2009
    912
    My wife does that too........
     
  17. 335s

    335s Formula Junior

    Jan 17, 2007
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    SF Bay Area
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    T. Monma
    seems this fellow like "P_cars"...apparently, he has BOTH of Walt Medlins old cars,
    AND also a 330P, ex-McCaw car...
    and thats all I know of...
    as "mick" says: a man of wealth and taste....
     
  18. miurasv

    miurasv F1 World Champ

    Nov 19, 2008
    10,034
    Cardiff, UK
    Full Name:
    Steven Robertson
    0858 then, 0844 plus 0820 and 330 LM Berlinetta 4381SA. 250 GTO 5095GT I wonder????
     

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