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488 Who owns ZFF80AMA0G0219421?

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  1. Rex Bush

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    You may have purchased it from auction sometime in March of 2023 with 1273 miles.

    I have your other key and owners manual. (Long story about how it came into my possession and I’d be more than happy to explain that. My original intent in obtaining the keys was to buy the car at auction… Unfortunately, the items came into my possession 3 days after the auction ended.

    Anyway, if you’d like to get those items,

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  2. 3POINT8

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    man now i want to hear the story...
     
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  3. Sargepug

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    I recall the keys being $3k a pop!
     
  4. Rex Bush

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    $3k? F-me! That’s insane.
     
  5. Rex Bush

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    I’ll go ahead and oblige you… The owner is doing 20 at club fed for committing $75mm worth of G.I. Bill fraud. It’s a bull **** charge too… he owned an A/C certification trade school that was very highly regarded. (His raduates earned the highest salary of all other trade schools in the state of Texas. and I am friends with his ex. I
    $75 million in G.i. Bill fraud is the crux of it. I feel bad for the guy too… He owned a HVAC trade school called retail ready. It was very well regarded, in fact, his graduates had the highest starting salaries of all other trade schools in the state. However, he pissed off someone, the wrong someone, and the DA knew exactly where to look for a conviction. His actual crime had no victim. He factually and materially exaggerated his cash on hand in order to qualify to accept GI bill students the first year. (And only the first year.)

    The DA argued that because the company started with a fraud, that every dime earned after that, even legitimately, was also fraud.

    So, the DA da hit his school down, took all his assets, and locked him up for 20. (Terrible attorney.)

    If you’re bored, here is the Fifth Circuit appeal that he lost.
     
  6. 3POINT8

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    man so sorry to hear this
     
  7. Rex Bush

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    It’s not your fault! I never even met the guy. His gf asked me if I’d pay her $400 for the key and manual…. And I figured everyone going to the auction would assume the car was not in perfect condition. I was going to buy it, complete the car with the records manual, and spare key, and hoped to sell it in a non-distressed fashion a few months later with a recent service, fresh tires, etc.

    I was 3 days late! If memory serves it did sell for about $60k bellow market.
     
  8. emmholla

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    Sheesh.. 20 years? Must have really pissed dude off to get put away from 20. Have mercy. Wow.


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  9. Rex Bush

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    Unfortunately, if you’re charged by the feds, the odds of being convicted are well over 95%, and the D.A.’s are more or less rewarded for the number of years the accused spends in prison. “Reasonableness” in a case like his isn’t a factor, so because he misrepresented himself to start the biz, they considered every dime he received to educate students as fraudulent, giving 0 consideration to the education they received.
     
  10. Viperjoe

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    20 years!!!!! I hope that’s there’s more to this story; a whole lot more.
     
  11. Rex Bush

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    The appeals court argument I posted above sums it up neatly.
     
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  13. Rex Bush

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    I’d like to add some color to the justice departments press release.

    1. The criminal proceedings for theft of services were for charges relating to a bounced check, which he covered and those charges were dropped. (I don't know what the exact timing was of that other than what his attorney stated at the appeal. It seemed a bit like a mountain out of a mole hill.

    2. The DOJ found 4 students to serve as their witnesses that retail ready as a bad school that left them ill-equipped at graduation. This is in contradiction to the following:
    • Retail Ready had the highest starting wage of any trade school located in the state of Texas.
    • The reviews are excellent https://g.co/kgs/RWajh4z (I have personally verified many of those reviews to the point of finding other active social media accounts of the reviewer, and out of the 20 I tracked down, all listed some employment in the HVAC industry, and had recent activity.

    3. Mr. Davis was teaching students for years before out of his still operational HVAC company. He began doing this to make finding students easier. The definition of what qualified as a new school wasn't especially clear.

    Mr. Davis did commit a crime. He lied about the financial standing of the school to get it off the ground. I think he should be heavily penalized for that. Those financial requirements are important to protect our Veterans after they complete their service and prevent them from squandering their reward for meritorious service in our armed forces. However, I think that should have been limited to a fine. The DOJ showed their ambivalence to the plight of the students those financial requirements were intended to protect when it showed up at the campus and shut it down, telling the students mid course to go home. (I am not sure if they received a refund from the funds that the DOJ seized. The DOJ also showed ambivalence to Retail Ready's employees, the revenue its students generated through increased earnings, and the many HVAC companies who relied on them for skilled HVAC labor.

    Note: I am an unrelated third party. I am friends with his ex gf and she was asking me questions about the case. (I am not an attorney.) . From a purely selfish perspective, I would prefer he remain locked up, but I am no where close to that big of an ******. (This is not a denial of my status as an ******, just a denial that I am that much of one.)
     

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