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Who should pay for PPI

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  1. f0430z

    f0430z Karting

    Sep 27, 2008
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    Does anyone know from past experienses who should pay for a PPI (vehicle is not being purchased from a f dealer). It's going to cost $700 to ship there and back (flat bed). Any suggestions would help. I was thinking of paying for the PPI But having the dealer pay for the shipping? I'm assuming he would add that to my final price anyways?

    Also, anyother things to have Ferrari check for?
     
  2. Juice It

    Juice It F1 Rookie

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    #2 Juice It, Nov 22, 2009
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    purchaser always pays for the ppi. It is for your benefit, not the sellers. Where would you live that a tow to a capable mechanic would cost 700.00?
     
  3. Joe Mac

    Joe Mac Formula 3

    It is ESSENTIAL that the buyer pay. It creates a contract between the buyer and the party doing the PPI and that is something a buyer wants in case there's a problem!
     
  4. f0430z

    f0430z Karting

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    I want to take the vehicle to a Ferrari sevice dealer not a local mechanic and closest dealer is 2hrs away.
     
  5. E60 M5

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    I rolled the dice and did not have a PPI. I purchased my car through and independent dealer and it was a one owner. I contacted Lake Forest Ferrari and got all the service history on the car. They were most helpful and spent about an hour telling me about the car. Everything was in order, so I kept the cash and bought the car. Never once have I had a problem.
    Foolish?? To some yes, but I researched the car and went with the facts and bought the car.
     
  6. LiveFromNY

    LiveFromNY Karting

    Sep 13, 2007
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    Brave, brave man.
     
  7. Juice It

    Juice It F1 Rookie

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    700 for a tow and another 600 or so for a PPI is a bit much if you end up going through a few to find the right car. I would bet if you asked around there are reputable independents in your area that would do just as good of a job as a dealer. What are the specs/details? Is it an older car with miles or a 1k garage queen?
     
  8. forgeahead

    forgeahead F1 Rookie
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    $700 does seem a bit excessive. I can ship a car in a covered carrier 1200 miles for not much more than that. Get AAA and have them flat-bed it. Then you'll only need to pay one way (back).
     
  9. fc2

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    I agree, $700 is a lot. I recently had a car shipped in a covered transport from the San Francisco Bay area to Phoenix Az for $800 and that's a lot further than 2 hours.

    I'd check on another way to ship.

    Also, as the others have said... these bills are yours. Shortcut this process and you could very well be looking at many times this amount to right the wrongs you didn't find.

    Good luck.
     
  10. dan360

    dan360 F1 Rookie

    Feb 18, 2003
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    Bear in mind that in the event of a problem following a PPI where you did buy the car you should ask yourself, what am I going to do?

    People pursuing Ferrari dealers over PPIs is why they essentially wont do them any more. The point is to mainly avoid a car that has a problem. If you pursue the PPI person, the likelihood is your recourse is the value of the PPI. Personally I'd rather only deal with a dealer I think will stand behind a car - in particular who'd take it back. In that circumstance I'd personally be happy to own the cost of shipping a car back.

    On old cars - that means looking at all sorts of numbers and therefore probably a big cost. I've paid 4 figures to inspect Alfa SZs and TZs where the objective is to a) use a real expert and b) tell if its really real (worth hundreds of thousands) or a replica (worth 30K).

    You pay's your money and you takes your choice on PPIs. In my opinion it should not be a ticking the box exercise.
     
  11. RSQP

    RSQP F1 World Champ
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    Caveat Emptor - it's the buyer's responsibility. Stack the deck in your favor.
     
  12. rob lay

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    dealers just hate doing PPI's. many don't have time for it plus the liability, if they do them it is usually more expensive and provides less information than many independents. just heard a story a PPI at dealer was $700 and no compression or leakdown done.
     
  13. It's Ross

    It's Ross Formula 3

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    A PPI is most definately for the buyers benefit and should be at his expense but some sellers wil still make false claims or feign ignorance knowing a PPI will turn something up hoping the seller will overlook it or the customer can still be "sold".

    I would like to see an agreemnet to this effect; The seller establishes a written claim as to the vehicles condition and agrees to an independant inspection by the buyer at the buyers expense UNLESS it is determined the condition has been misrepresented by the seller in which case the seller foots the bill for inspection and the buyer isn't obligated to buy.
    I would hope to cut through false claims that way.
     

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