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Who should replace Vettel?

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Who should replace Vettel?

  1. Alonso

  2. Rosberg

  3. Button

  4. Barrichello

  5. Other (please mention)

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  1. ktu

    ktu Formula Junior

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    I thought you guys said the drivers now are not as talented and can't be as good do to the car being 90% of the equation. Now you say Max is of the Senna/Schumacher mold, even though he didn't win in the Torro Rosso. He only won when he went to a top team. Explain
     
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  2. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    It actually PROVES what we have said. Back in the day, a great driver could have made a difference... nowadays, the car is so dominant that even a great driver won’t make enough difference to make a car outperform itself by a significant enough margin to win against the dominant car. Max does some great things, makes the red bull outperform itself, but there’s too much of a gap to the Mercedes for it to bring him regular victories. Back in fairer times, he’d have cleaned Elton’s clock a fair few times by now
     
  3. The Strad

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    He shouldn't be replaced, his wife is very happy with him. He brings in a lot of money, and only bangs into other drivers asses.
     
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  4. The Strad

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    Sure you're talking about Elton's clock? :D :D :D
     
  5. ktu

    ktu Formula Junior

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    ? So if the driver can't make enough difference because of the car, how do you know the talents of Max is superior?
     
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  6. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Every race is won on merit !

    It's not the fault of the winner if the others falter around him !
     
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  7. fer312t

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    That was 2012...and that Williams qualified on pole and led the majority of laps so it was not down to everyone else dropping out. An aberrant result for sure - that year all about getting the high deg Pirellis in the right window, and Williams simply got it right that weekend. I would not personally consider the FW34 a 'winning' car per se just because they never looked close to being about to replicate their Spanish GP pace on any other occasion.

    A car that wins three races and podiums regularly - like the RB10....absolutely.
     
  8. P.Singhof

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    But it is not his achievement either...
     
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  9. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    Ah, 2012, my mistake, it’s because I couldn’t care less about any team and it’s resutls bar Ferrari, had to guess. So, the red bull was a winning championship contender because they managed three wins, yet the Williams wasn’t, coz they only managed one....hmm, the plot gets thicker.........seems to me in reality for most people, neither is considered a winning car as neither had any hope of either championship, both merely took advantage of slim pickings created when the form team of that year faltered
     
  10. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    It’s definitely a saying in the US, cleaning someone’s clock..... I was a bit concerned to use it, given the report button gets hit on me more often than on a catholic priest, but it is apparently genuine!
     
  11. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    Can’t you tell greatness when you see it? Well, that does explain a lot buddy... hehehehehe.

    What is it about me that you find so fascinating, trying to twist and turn every conversation into a slanging match if you can? You should keep your finger off the report button if you are going to an actively try to engage me to create an argument, as otherwise it’s called entrapment. I’ve no interest in such an argument as I couldn’t care less what your assessment of anything is, it’s always wrong
     
  12. ktu

    ktu Formula Junior

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    Look at who's ahead on track, that says i know greatness when i see it. I have never used the report button, no need to, this is too easy. Im just trying to keep up with the ever changing standards around here. One day the current drivers has little talent because the car drives itself, the next day Max is mentioned in the same sentence as Senna lol, whats next
     
  13. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    Yeah, that Mercedes is absolutely a great car, absolutely right. The donut in it, not so much
     
  14. blkfxstc

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    Won’t be Rossi, he is staying in Indy.
     
  15. JStone414

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    it is days like today that show you Vettel still has it....just has to figure out how to put a whole weekend together again
     
  16. Igor Ound

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    Pretty much only driver not to make mistakes today...
     
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  17. daytona355

    daytona355 F1 World Champ

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    Yep, the rain master was 12th wasn’t he? Hahahahaha..... Seb finally showed his true colours today, may it be the start of his return to form
     
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  18. stavura

    stavura Formula Junior

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    The driver that should replace Vettel is Vettel
     
  19. CRG125

    CRG125 Formula 3

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    Forget who is replacing Vettel, what about both Mercedes drivers? They looked like complete rookies. Hamilton who is amazing in the rain completely fell apart today. Bottas could not get around Lance troll I mean Stroll? WTF!
     
  20. LVP488

    LVP488 Formula 3

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    Now maybe Vettel should go to Merc - he'd get a chance to drive a winning car, and Ferrari fans (?) would be relieved to get rid of such a lousy driver...
     
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  21. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Any team can have a bad day, and Mercedes is not immune to that.
    The weather conditions played havoc with the Mercedes strategy and caught out both drivers, that's a fact.
    A setback, but not catastrophic; both drivers still lead the WDC, and the team the WCC, by a large mrgin.
     
  22. CRG125

    CRG125 Formula 3

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    Not surprised by your response and no it was not Mercedes strategy and yes it was crazy conditions. Both drivers made mistakes and were at fault. Especially Hamilton, he lost the car 3 times and finished last.
     
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  23. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    Yes, it was a GP completely lost for Mercedes, but it's not too bad compared to the 9 GPs they have already won this year.
    You have to keep things into perspective and look at the bigger picture.
    Yet again, Ferrari hasn't won today !!
     
  24. CRG125

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    Yes your are right Ferrari did not win today but at Vettel finished second coming from 20th and Lewis did the complete opposite and finished dead last. You have to look at one race at a time not the big picture. Mercedes lost because both drivers didn't know which direction to go on the track.
     
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  25. william

    william F1 World Champ

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    I am glad that you are easily satisfied with one second place, and chose to disregard 9 wins.
    I always look at the big picture myself, and never get exited by a blip on the screen.
    The man of the day was undeniably Verstappen, credit to him, and not a Ferrari driver.
     

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