Whom will win the US election? | Page 154 | FerrariChat

Whom will win the US election?

Discussion in 'Australia' started by carl888, Nov 2, 2020.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

?

Who will win the US election?

  1. Biden

    31 vote(s)
    31.6%
  2. Trump

    51 vote(s)
    52.0%
  3. Moretti

    16 vote(s)
    16.3%
  1. IanB

    IanB F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jun 15, 2006
    16,184
    Sydney
    Yes, it's important to watch the entire meeting and not just the last 5 minutes. Trump was warm and respectful to him throughout.

    Bur I think Zelensky has the typically European disdain for Trump and struggles to contain it. The moment when he pulls out victim photographs then feeds them like he's showing a child... I'm amazed that Trump kept his cool.

    At the final stage Zelensky had got a deal but couldn't help himself from picking a fight over nothing with Vance. All he had to do was shut up, but he kept digging.

    Watch the interview he did soon after on Fox, he was given 2 opportunities to apologise but wouldn't.
     
    anunakki and Steve355F1 like this.
  2. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    So, your country is having the shjt bombed out of it by a Russian invader and a guy who has done nothing wants him to kiss his feet because the previous president aided him in the defense of his country AND wants resource retribution for that assistance

    Trump and Vance baited him and why was Zelenskyy asked why he wasn't wearing a suit !!!

    WTF , that was the trigger for Vance to go on the attack

    Disgraceful set up and Trump supporters are still communists siding with Russia
     
    dm_n_stuff, MANDALAY and eddie348 like this.
  3. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
    24,003
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    I watched the entire interview and the only thing Zelensky was pushing was the fact that Russia has reneged on paper agreements before - of which there can be no rebuttal. He's asking for a commitment from the USA that they won't stand by and watch Russia just try again in a couple of years... The Americans are giving no commitments.
    Why would anyone give away half of a nation's mineral wealth for a 'well we tried' deal with no gurantees?
     
    MANDALAY and eddie348 like this.
  4. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
    24,003
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    Or the first American president to be charged with treason?
     
  5. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    There was a time US presidents were anti-Russian

    Reagan even joked about bombing Russia in 1984

    Kennedy had a Mexican standoff with them over Cuba

    Now the US is siding with them

    Superpowers?

    Super sycophants!!
     
  6. Birel

    Birel Formula 3

    Sep 12, 2005
    1,950
    Brisbane
    Full Name:
    Andrew Turner
    Umm...like Musk inhabits the Oval Office well dressed ?? So petty. I liked the Zelenskyy retort to whoever that buffoon was who asked the silly question.
     
    MANDALAY likes this.
  7. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    Yes, different standards for MAGA groupies, and I too had a laugh at Zelenskyy's reply from MTG's boyfriend used as a trigger to release the hounds
     
    MANDALAY likes this.
  8. greg246

    greg246 Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Jun 2, 2004
    26,601
    Steve355F1 likes this.
  9. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    The World is in trouble
     
    Maranello550 likes this.
  10. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Aug 26, 2011
    17,138
    Adelaide, South Aust
    Full Name:
    Steve
    It always is. But now it’s in less trouble than it was last year.

    Turnbull is and always was a ****ing idiot.
    You could interchange him and KRudd and you wouldn’t know the difference.

    Both morons.
     
  11. AndrewWA

    AndrewWA Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2005
    975
    Chiswick, London
    Full Name:
    Andrew Stevens
    Less trouble?? Not from where I'm sitting currently. Within range of a Russian ICBM if Putin goes over the edge...
    You've overlooked the fact that Trump has had a lot of business dealings with Russian banks and oligarchs previously - including bailing him out with 'special loans' etc etc. I've no doubt that there is some 'komprimat' held on him...

    Oh - and would swap Turnbull or Rudd even anytime for Boris Johnson...
     
    DMWC likes this.
  12. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    Feeling for you Andrew

    Yes, the Trumpettes fail to mention the times he's been bailed out by the Russians after going bankrupt

    There may be some truth to Trump being a Russian spy ........ wouldn't that be ironic and explode the tiny minds of MAGA morons

    You know, the US was a great country before this idiot turned up, well respected and held in high esteem, had done some great things

    Now, I stand with Canada
     
    AndrewWA and MANDALAY like this.
  13. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    You could exchange Trump and Putin at the moment , same policies, both dictators
     
    AndrewWA and MANDALAY like this.
  14. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Ten Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Dec 10, 2005
    100,205
    Mount Isa, Australia
    Full Name:
    Pap
    Trump is running a royal **** isn't he?
     
    MANDALAY likes this.
  15. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    MANDALAY likes this.
  16. Steve355F1

    Steve355F1 F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    Aug 26, 2011
    17,138
    Adelaide, South Aust
    Full Name:
    Steve
    #3842 Steve355F1, Mar 12, 2025
    Last edited: Mar 12, 2025
    If people vote correctly we’ll get both of those.

    And I think you’re wrong - the US well and truly has the ability to wipe anyone (including Russia) off the planet if that becomes necessary.
    They just haven’t had a leader with any balls for quite some time.

    I know you lefties struggle with facts, but here’s a couple:

    No wars were started during Trump’s first term. First President in decades not to commit any new US troops to a conflict.

    Sleepy Joe got in. Absolute debacle of a withdrawal from Afghanistan.
    We got Russia invading Ukraine (continuing what started under Obama), and the terrorist attacks on Israel, as well as many other things, including primitive tribes attacking ships in important shipping lanes.

    Mainly sponsored by Iran; an abhorrent regime that, bizarrely, lefties in Australia march in the streets to support, while disregarding the fact that if any of them set foot there they’d be thrown off the top of the nearest building.

    In the first few weeks of Trump this time, amongst the chaos we now have a ceasefire in Gaza.
    Europe is finally deciding to increase their efforts in Ukraine and internally.

    Note that Europe still spends more money on importing Russian Gas than they have given Ukraine in support (thanks to moronic climate change policies which are rapidly being undone as reality hits). .

    We now have a potential ceasefire in Ukraine.

    Let’s see how Russia reacts. Putin is a total ****, and should be eliminated, but let’s see.

    Bottom line is we are much closer to peace in the world now (even if the methods are distasteful to all of us) than we were a few months ago.

    And - Jesus Christ - can anyone imagine where we’d be if Giggles got in?..

    The killing and butchery would still be happening everywhere, but I guess the main thing is that lovely word salad speeches would be being made.

    And Lefties in their cosy inner city homes could feel good…
     
    procure95 and MANDALAY like this.
  17. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    Firstly, right wingers don't know what facts are :

    Trump : Zelenskyy is a dictator !!! FMD are you kidding
    Trump : Ukraine started this war !!
    Trump : the immigrants are 3eating your pets !!!
    Trump : I'm siding with the despots and murderers of this world (Putin and KJU)
    Trump : I'm going after Greenland, Canada and Panama

    Here's my predictions :

    Musk will have a serious attempt on his life , in a country where the guns outnumber the people, if you keep sacking people AND one of them is mentally deranged AND they have easy access to guns there is a high probability for him to be taken out (have you noticed he wears kevlar vests all the time now ?

    Trump being as unhinged as he is (he's destabilising the US and Canadian economy , if you keep an eye on all of the economic indicators, the stock exchange doesn't count but it keeps falling and Musk has alreadly lost over USD$150B) there is a good possibility for a military coup , unlikely but possible):
    Let me explain this to you non-military types, when you sign up for the military you are swearing allegiance to your country, in the US it is to the constitution, such that no matter what flavour of govt is in power the military will obey the directives of the govt of the day
    If the president starts firing all of the current military heads because he wants sycophants (he's done it twice now) then sooner or later someone will think they need to do something to stop this lunatic from destabilising the ARMED forces

    Canada and the US will damage both of their economies with this stupid tit for tat (I'm naturally with the Canadians, not because I hate America but unlike Trump I can see that America needs Canadian aluminium as they only produce 16% of the quantity they need so the tariff on steel/aluminium will hurt America not Canada - if you understand who pays this tariff)
    Putin has already reacted to the "deal" from Trump, nada, I watched the Russian response live from Moscow last night ..... nearly threw my glass of soda water at my new TV from the lies spewed out by this Russian official RUSSIA SHOULD BE ELIMINATED FROM THE WORLD
    What the US did by arming and backing Ukraine was to weaken Russia militarily (without risking any of their manpower) to the point that they had to get some north Koreans for their fight against Ukraine and are now looking to China seeing as how most of the Koreans are dead, Putin will have no option soon other than to sabre rattle the nuclear threat, then we'll see how macho Trump is

    I saw a video of a republican giving a speech (3 months ago) about semi current world events, he spoke well, made sense and I totally agreed with ALL he was saying including where Trump fitted into all of this (wished I had bookmarked it, you would have loved it) , the trouble was the things he expected Trump to do NEVER happened, he didn't expect Trump to side with Putin (a REAL dictator and murderer) , he was expecting Trump to play the strong US president willing to pressure Putin and if he did I could see how the Republican plan would work but Trump is a loose cannon and the world has NO idea what he will say or do next ..... 100% tariffs for Canada, Canada turns the lights out for 1.5 million Americans, he invades Canada (he mouths off about it) so much for friends/neighbours and allies

    Trump 1.0 was a "let's see where this goes" ...... not a disaster but he found out he appeals to the uneducated (MAGA)
    Trump 2.0 being a narcissist he now thinks he's the king and can do whatever he wants with this totally unhinged South African nut job weilding chainsaws and dressing like a thug in the oval office where his kid told Trump "you're not the real president"

    It's a shjt show, I can be right wing more than anyone and I can be left of Xi when I feel like it ( swing voters change govts, sheep change nothing) but you have to stand up for your OWN values and seeing as how I was raised in aa first world society far removed from the horrors of war it's easy for me to pontificate on the rights and wrongs but in the end I , and you, know what is the correct thing to do and siding with a dictator and murderer is wrong

    Oh, and your point re Europe is spot on, they should increase their spend on defence as should Australia, we can't depend on the US, Trump would throw us under the bus in a blink

    Funny how I NOW think Europe rather than the US would assist us if we needed help

    I grew up on the "Truth, justice and the American way" .................. gullible little boy that I was
     
  18. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    Oh , and BTW, the US has a surplus with OZ and STILL imposes a tariff on us (it means nothing in real terms other than needing to find another buyers for our steel and aluminium)

    I don't like the fact the US can disable the F35 AND we just bought another 25 for $3B, Israel bought F35s on the premise that they could remove all the US electronics ..... imagine going out to your aircraft and it doesn't work any more

    As allies we shouldn't have to worry about this but who knows what the orange man will do with his sidekick buddy Elon
     
  19. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Feb 25, 2009
    29,721
    North Qld
    Full Name:
    simon klein
    It's all gunna make an Oscar winning film one day.............made in Hollyrock of course.
     
  20. simon klein

    simon klein Two Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Feb 25, 2009
    29,721
    North Qld
    Full Name:
    simon klein
    Steve355F1 and kerrari like this.
  21. moretti

    moretti Five Time F1 World Champ
    Lifetime Rossa Owner

    Nov 1, 2003
    59,757
    Australia
    Full Name:
    John
    I sold a koala to a US air force dude who was in Amberley
    Told him as an Aussie we own all of the animals and if he wanted the koala to give me $50 and he's yours

    He gave me the money and then asked me to go get the koala .... told him he owns it now so he can go get it himself :p
     
  22. MANDALAY

    MANDALAY F1 World Champ
    Owner Silver Subscribed

    May 23, 2013
    14,464
    AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    ANGELO

    The one eyed Trumpsters will always defend him no matter the verbal diarrhea.

    Trump is a piece of **** who is in politics to make a name for himself and get out of jail.

    Oh BTW Teslas are great cars now !
     
  23. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
    24,003
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    They can't even build their OWN requirements at present - from the magazine National Defense:
    Rucker called the U.S. Navy’s production goals risky as the industrial base struggles with challenges that saw the service’s submarine production goal fall short in 2024.
    The goal by the end of the calendar year was a production rate of 1.5 boats per year, with a threshold of 1.3, Rucker said. “We continue to hover around a production rate of 1.1 to 1.2 boats per year. … We will not make the goal. We’ll be closer to 1.3.”

    Reasons for the shortfall include “continuing challenges” related to maintenance and workforce as well as “material delays,” Rucker said. What he called sequence-critical material delays “directly [impact] the ability to build boats in the order they were supposed to be built.”
     
  24. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

    Oct 22, 2004
    24,003
    Coolum Beach AUSTRALIA
    Full Name:
    Karen H.
    The thing that's really sticking in my throat with the US today is that WE have, for the last 80 years, paid full price for all the equipment (and spares) bought from them, the only use any of which has had is in fighting wars THEY dragged us into!
    We should be positioning ourselves much more along the lines of Singapore (strong defence based solely on HOME DEFENCE).
     
    MANDALAY likes this.

Share This Page