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Why do Dogs Bite?

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  1. venusone

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    Today in the operating room I photographed the worst victim of dog attack I’ve ever seen. An 8 yo boy was attacked simultaneously by the family’s Rottweiler & Pit Bull. 95 % of his body was riddled w/ bites. I’m talking puncture wounds head to toe, every couple inches on all surfaces except his face. It was a miracle the kid was still alive. The surgeons packed the wounds & wrapped him in gauze. The anesthesiologist was having a problem finding a way to keep the intibated boy’s pain down w/ out killing him. Fentenal & morphine wasn’t doing it.
    Is it the breed? How do dogs get to be this way (other than beeing trained for fighting)? I’m a dog lover & want to understand. Can you ever trust these breeds?
     
  2. modoindustries

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    you can trust the breed, but they are prone to this behavior. I hate when people blame the owners. given the owner has a huge part in the dogs temperment, but you never hear of a Yorkie doing this..
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  3. BigTex

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    We had a fatality here a week ago, poor old lady mowing her lawn, a roving pack attacked her and as she tried to reach her house....finito....

    Shot 'em all, man! Put 'em down......

    The wetbacks think it's great sport here to own one, most of the fighting ring busts they find 'em chained to an axle driven into the ground, running 'round and round and round on the hub.........nice, eh????

    I have a friend with one as a pet that is very sweet, but it how you raise them. Sorry to hear of this young lad.

    Then there was the San Francisco case where the owner's faced murder charges, from the attack of a female neighbor inside, in a hallway!
     
  4. BigTex

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    Sorry, the short answer is: "Because they can"!!!

    I think it's instinctive to 'chase what runs'...like a shark, if you stand and punch them in the face a few times, they lose interest quickly!
     
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    Well, that Yorkie could only maul you up to the knee caps!!! Cutie!
     
  6. Knowazark

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    Dogs respond to stimuli in the only way they know how ... in dog terms. The problem comes when people think of dogs as small humans with fur and expect them to respond in human terms.

    Dogs learn appropriate behaviour from their pack and assimilate that into their instinctive behaviour patterns. Biting results from fear, aggression or hunting behaviours.

    In the case you describe the boy either provoked a fear or pain response from the dogs, threatened the dogs or behaved like a prey item. A fear or pain response usually results in a single bite not a sustained attack. Threatening the dogs or invoking hunting behaviour is likely to result in a sustained attack. In any case, the boy was not (as far as the dogs were concerned) higher in the pecking order than the dogs were and was therefore fair game for biting.

    Basically dogs bite because they either think they need to or they think they can get away with it.

    Steve
     
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    only if I am on my knees.. and I make it a point to not be on my knees.
     
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    That's too bad.

    Really.

    Were it my child, I'd trade places with him a thousand times over.

    Jack London stated it best at the end of Call of the Wild

    Read the whole tale before you get to the bottom line.

    Please.
     
  9. Jerrari

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    Pit bulls and Rottweilers are WORTHLESS!!!!!! People that own them are frickin out of their minds, the dogs CANNOT be trusted, period.
     
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    Ignorant statement! Have you owned any of these animals? Never mind, I already no the answer. NO!

    I grew up with Rottweilers (can't speak for pitt bulls), they have been apart of my family for years both in Germany (military) and US. If trained and raised properly (like any large dog) they make fantastic & loyal companions and know their place in the pecking order of the family unit. Unfortunately, there are those owners who do not properly or not at all train/raise their animals resulting in poor/unacceptable behavior.
     
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    That didnt take long!!
     
  12. Gilles27

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    Venus, it all boils down to bad dog owners. The raising of a dog is very much like the raising of a child. What you put into it is what you get out of it. Why do some kids run around and start trouble? Pretty much because the parents do a shi**y job raising them. Nurture over nature.
     
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    Really couldn't tell you ... never got my dog to show the faintest sign of agressivity ...
     
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    Ok, first, you may want to re-word that. Im not hispanic, but thats kind of a disrespectful statement.

    Second, dogs arent really the types of animals that attack for no damn reason, they sure didnt get the title "mans best friend" by attacking small children. If they are brought up to be viscious, they have a more of a tendency to snap. Truth be, that kid was probably pushing his luck; its unfortunate that he has to live with those scars the rest of his life.
     
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    i'm with Alex on this, Tex... 'Wetback' is not a kind term at all...


    ...and i think this thread is stupid... A dog is an animal... It's a primal beast... It's like Chris Rock said about Roy of Sigfried & Roy when he was bit by the tiger...

    "When Roy got bit by that tiger, everyone was like, 'oh, ****, that tiger went crazy!'... No it didn't... That tiger went TIGER...!!! The tiger went crazy when it was riding around on a tricycle with a little helmet on...!"
     
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    Well, dogs aren't really primal anymore. Centuries of domestication have seen to that. They do still have instincts, however. Most often dogs attack out of fear or defense. Some breeds, having been developed specifically for protective purposes, may have retained stronger characteristics. But dogs that are trained and treated properly should not attack unless commanded to do so. Something I've found interesting is how my preconceptions of certain breeds have changed since I've moved to the city. Urban dogs, believe it or not, are generally better socialized and attended to than their suburban cousins. It's all too common to hear people say "I'd never own a dog in the city. It's not fair to have a dog if you don't have a yard." Unfortunately, suburban dogs tend to spend the majority of their time in those yards, alone, staring into space. Urban dogs, on the other hand, require walking, which leads to socializing. The parks we go to often have breeds I used to think of as little, nervous and mean, like Schnauzers and Dachshunds. But when they're raised around other people and dogs, they're very friendly. And dogs do develop different personalities, influenced by their environment.
     
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    LOL, Schnauzers and Dachsunds weren't really the breeds i was thinking of when i threw in the word "primal"... :)

    i still think pit bulls are primal - or closer to it than other dogs... i suppose any animal can be tamed, but it still has to be tamed...
     
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    Pull your head out of the sand and look at the statistics. How many Collies Great Danes or Huskys do you hear of attacking people versus Pits and Rotts??? Sure, there are nice ones, but those F'ers have a propensity to violence wired into their brains. Would you leave your kids alone with one of these dogs....nevermind, I know the answer. Denying that these breeds are more aggressive and prone to attack than others is like denying that the Golden Retriever is a gentler dog than some others. Do you deny that as well? Read the nice stories below.
    http://www.dogexpert.com/Popular%20Press/BabySwings.htm
    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1110AP_BRF_Woman_Mauled.html
     
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    I think this is the best explaination I've heard. Steve pinned it. Dogs react purely on instinct. the ole' "Fight or Flight" reaction. Gilles and Knowasark also had points I agree with. When a dog looks at you and it's mind says, "This man is good." That's all it knows, it will love and trust you unconditionally. When the dog's mind says, "This man is bad." It will escape or attack.

    I used to have a hybrid Wolf (half shepard/ half wolf) that was an excellent pet. She treated the family like her pack and was very loyal, loving and protective. The dog ran out into the road one day and got hit by a dump truck. My girlfriend (it was her dog actually) went to the dog's rescue and the dog bit her (confusion, pain, etc.). The State of Maine stepped in and said that they had to put the dog down because it was a wolf, a wild animal, and now had a history of biting people. No longer a loving pet, the State says that it is a vicious wild animal that must be put to death.
     
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    Well, remember the statistics are flawed by the fact that owners do not pick their dogs randomly. Thugs all want a pittbull and raise bad dogs, so there's another variable to the breed "instinct".
    I'm sure that if labradors were considered bad ass fight dogs, the attacks would increase greatly ... and people would say "labs are bad dogs, it's their instinct, stats prove it!"
     
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    My friend's neighbor was mangled by a pack of wiener dogs.

    True story.
     
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    "I thought you said your dog doesn't bite?".........
     
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    "...It's not my dog..."

    Ha!
     
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    LOL, good job! I was hoping someone would get it!
     

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