L8 Apex You are right ALL dogs bite. All dogs can kill. What kind of dog do YOU want to get bit by?????? Pameranian or pitbull. I will be waiting for an answer.
Exactly right. We've had our Rottweiler for 8 years and it has been the most gentle, affectionate and all-around good dog we've ever owned. Get one from a good breeder and raise it right, and they will be great companions. She loves little kids, our cat, and our Golden and is very gentle with all of them. I've seen many labs far more aggressive than she is. As noted above, many breeds are much more naturally aggrresive, including pits, Chows, Akitas etc. The Rotty is akin to the German Sheppard in it's personality. All of that said, let's not forget the tragedy of the story that started this topic. My thoughts are with that child and their family. Our baby: Image Unavailable, Please Login
I just picked up this mean motherfuccker on Monday. Get in her way or piss her off and she'll piss all over your carpet!! Image Unavailable, Please Login
I just came across this thread..and as a dog owner (I have a Lab Mix, Rottie and a Maltese) I have to say some of your opinions are way off. Someone posted that Rotties and PitBulls are worthless? Please.. Thats about as accurate as walking through Rahway State Prision in NJ (A maximum security facility for the worst criminals we have to offer) and saying, "Humans are worthless!" Ive had my Rottie since she was 11 weeks old.. She just turned 8 yrs in August. I dare say she is more civilized and sweet than most people I meet. All of my dogs are. Our best friends have a Stafford Terrier (you might know as a Pit Bull breed) and he too is more civil than most humans you meet in a day. The children of both families are loved and protected by our dogs. My Maltese joined our house just over a year ago when my wife's grandmother passed away and the dog needed a stable home. Ill tell you that my 5 pound soaking wet with a brick on his back Maltese is the alpha dog. He takes food and toys out of the mouth of my 110 pound Rottie and she does NOTHING. They also play and are inseperable (sp?) I believe dogs, like people, are a product of their environment. I also believe that you dont hear stories of a Yorkie doing this because, my cousin has one, when the Yorkie flips out and attacks me when we're playing, she's so tiny you can just grab her mouth and hold it shut. If she gets a bite in, of course it stings. Anyone is entitled to an opinion.. but non-dog owners are very mis informed. And i dont consider a human in urban america that is keeping a Pit Bull caged in his cement back yard, outside all year round with minimal food, water and love a dog owner. Matter of fact i have a copy at home somewhere of a study that was conducted years ago and it was proven that Pit Bull terriers and Rotties do *NOT* have natural aggressive tendancies. It is not a natural born trait to the breeds. It is a learned behavior. Just like that scum bag that robbed and killed a liquor store clerk. Would it be fair to say a scum bag human like that makes you a natural born jerk off??
I'm glad you agree. All dogs can bite and can kill. It is not breed specific. To answer your question: What kind of dog do YOU want to get bit by? None of the above. It is unacceptable behavior. Period. I have been bit by "the hair of the dog" a few times. If ya know what I mean. On a serious note: In the case of a mauling as Venue originally posted the dogs should be put down and the owners should be held responsible, end of story . It sickens me to hear such stories. I think I speak for all of us "our thoughts prayers go out to the young boy and his family and we hope for a speedy recovery".
Its my job as a medical photographer. They needed documentation for a possible child welfare case against the parents. Also, this is one of the most severe attacks on record were the victim was not dead on the scene. BTW: the boy is still alive in our ICU. No word on the dogs yet.
Why don't you and your mentally challenged allies respond to this: From the Center for Disease control: From 1979 through 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in 238 human dog bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these deaths. Now from the American Society of Plastic surgeons: "While any dog can bite, the top biting breeds include: Pit Bulls, Rottweilers, German Shepherds, Huskies, Doberman Pinschers, Chow Chows, Great Danes, St. Bernards and Akitas." Are these not reputable enough sources for you? You say it is old data...WTF does that have to do with anything? Are you saying that the breed has mellowed out in the last 10 years? Anyone that puts their kids in danger having one of these dogs needs their head examined. You guys must like to gamble. CLASSIC!!!!!!!!!!
I used this data in post #70. Info from the cdc article and the akc: What was the # of registered Rottweilers from 1978-1998? What was the number of human deaths by this breed during the same 20 year period? What is the percentage of deaths by registered Rottweilers? Hint (the answer starts with 0.00_ _%) I do recall you wanting to know how many collies and huskies attributed to human death:So just for you. What was the # of registered Huskies from 1978-1998? What was the number of deaths by this breed during the same 20 year period? What is the percentage of deaths by registered Huskies? Hint (the answer starts with 0.0_ _ %) What breed is more likely to kill? Rottweiler or Husky. Answer HUSKY. Using statistics supplied by you not me.
Originally Posted by Jerrari "Pits and Rotts are the #1 biter of humans" PROVE IT!!!!!!!!! They might lead in fatal bites from 1990-1998. Still old data. Show me proof that they are the "#1 biter" of humans. Use stats if you must. Waiting... Also waiting for this answer: You are the one stereotyping the breed. Do you say the same about people of a certain race? Or would you say, some are bad and some are good. Would love to here an answer from you on this question. Start your spinning. Come on Jerry answer the questions. Or are you afraid of the answers? Just admit you are wrong by stereotyping a breed and saying these dogs are "WORTHLESS". Assuming WORTHLESS means bad, incompetent, or totally lacking good, attractive, or admirable qualities.
Of the hundreds of dog breeds out there, Pits and Rotts account for 50% of the dog bites on humans....period. This data is from the Center for Disease Control (I know, not a very reputable source...LOL). Your lame attempt at throwing out some smoke screen on the facts is very comical. I say to you this, good luck with your doggie, I hope it stays one of the good ones. I myself am a dog lover, but would never endanger my children with one of those bastards. If you choose to do that, hey I guess you are a gambler. The fact that you would accuse me of racial profiling is a true testament to your intelligence at drawing such a parallel.
No smoke screen. Just simple math. The abundance of rottweilers is 7 times that of the Husky. Therefore ,the probability of occurence is greater with the rottweiler because of the larger population. But if you look at the percentage of deaths by the population, the HUSKY is 4.12 times more likely to kill. Never accused you of anything. Never would. I just asked a simple question to make a point. And by your comment "I hope it stays one of the good ones" is proof enough for me that you do not believe all Rottweilers are bad (Worthless and wired to kill) and do not deserve to be stereotyped as a killers, because of a few bad apples. Bygones
Here's another vote for the those breeds have minimal redeeming qualities tally. My girlfriend's 73 yo father got a good chomp on the hand by her neighbors otherwise docile rottie. The dog just snapped for no reason with the owner, my gf and her dad standing in conversation. And I literally had to kick a pitbull as hard as I could several times once to get it to release a small dust mop type dog it was tearing the shreads out of. I've owned dogs since the days of my earliest memories and am now active in the rescue and adoption of Malamutes and I just don't see the attractiveness of those aggressive breeds. But then again it's not the dog's fault, it's the fault of humans breeding aggressiveness into those dogs.
You are correct Kenny, but now as you've said it is BRED into them and they are unpredictable. I just don't see why you would want to take a chance with one of these breeds when there are so many others out there to choose from.
No I absolutely do not believe that they are ALL bad apples, but why take a chance that you will get one that is?
Nobody says we shood shoot all pitbulls or rot's. But come on people, they are NOT house(urban) animals, unless your house is on a prairy and you have regular wolf/dingo infestations. Anyone who keeps a specialised dog like that in a city is a moron. Even IF those breeds attacked statistically less then Chihuahuas, they still need to be restricted as a bite from a Pit is worse then a 100 poodle bites.
Anyone who has kids, and keeps their Rotweiler, should have the custody of the kids revoked. Kids by definition are dumb. A 3 year old rascal can make a guide dog for the blind go ballistic. My kid brother made the cat scratch him and our cat never scratched anyone in 10 years. Equally, I made my grans Maltese Furby bite me and that dog was afraid to bite it's kibbles. Again, why are some dog lovers so DUMB and HARD-HEADED as to let the issue come to COMPLETE ban on these breeds. A little give and take compromise is needed. Keeps the breeds legal, but forbid them in urban areas.
As a long time Rottie owner and parent I have to take offense to that. I can stick my hand or my face in ANY of my dogs faces or mouths WHILE they are eating and they wont flinch or growl a bit. My dogs have been raised and treated with respect since puppies and they reciprocate. If you arent/werent a rottie owner and parent, then I wont waste another breath on that moronic statement as it has no merit.
Thats what sigfre and roy said, except about their tame loving tigers. It only takes once and the damage is done. Thats why I say again what would you rather be bit by a pomeranain or a pitbull????? Because they all can bite and some will, and you don't always know why or when.
