Sorry, but you WERE sarcastic when you said, "I just love. . ." and "idiotic statements" was a personal attack on someone who was only quoting information he had found elsewhere. As I said, I've seen contradictory reports regarding which car is faster. It's not BS, it's just a matter of quoting a report that doesn't say what you thought it should. I never called you "idiotic" or said that your opinion is wrong. If you think that I attacked you personally, that's your opinion. We're all entitled to one, so we should all just be civil on this board. Here's the text of your post to which I was responding. I think that most would agree that it was less than polite: I just love when totally uninformed people post absolute BS and pass it off as the truth. When you make idiotic statements like this you should be prepared to back them up. I appreciate that the F40 is your dream car, as per your profile but obviously you have never driven either car and certainly not both in order to be able to make a qualified statement like the one you did. Please spare the community your "facts". In this particular case you are dead wrong.
I stand by my post. Sarcasm is effective, clearly, and the statements were idiotic. I'm sorry (possibly not) that you don't agree. I don't really care, and I'm certain neither do you. If this forum had to live by a "civility to others standard" there would be no debate, but please note I attacked the content of the statement, not the person making it. There is a difference
For like the second time, I never said that. I said IN SOME AREAS, which it does. Hope you have fun driving your cars....
I prefer the 288 over the F40 for many reasons. The 288 is the ONLY one of the "Supercar set" that has purity of design and purpose in that it was specifically designed to go racing. That and the fact that it is one of the most beautiful automotive designs of all time is a bonus. The F40 IMHO was a cynical money grabbing exercise by Ferrari, in the crazy bull market of the times. "We are only going to make 250..............We are only going to make 350............We are only going to make 400......................." The fact is they kept making them until there was no more market after it collapsed in the early 90's. Total production of over 1300 cars! That is not to say the F40 isn't an iconic car, and it certainly ended up being the only one of the Supercars with a big race history in the hands of privateers. A great car no doubt; but I can't rate it over the 288 GTO. Each to their own
the f40 was also the last ferrari that Enzo ever had a hand in producing. by the way guys, i've been reading for a while, but this is my *1st post* haha.
IMHO,I feel it is pointless and silly for anyone who has never driven said cars in question to offer substantial opinions on these cars. Any such opinion I feel is meaningless-at least to me it is. Apart from stating their approval(or not-whatever the case may be) of the aesthetic appearance of the cars and perhaps quoting(but making it clear it is a quote and not THEIR opinion own experience) various historical and technical issues about the car, opinions regarding which car is better in terms of performance(which encompasses many variables and can only be assessed after driving any car) should only be offered by people who either own these cars or who have extensive driving experience with these cars. I abide, and always have abided by this rule and I think everyone should. Everyone always learns from people who have personal hands on experience. It makes sense and you all know it does. I dont care if I get flamed on this, I am wearing my asbestos suit so fire away!
I cordially volunteer MYSELF to be the spokesman for all of those who do not or will not ever own an F40 and would like to volunteer my personal 'driving insight' to them. Yah I'll get flamed for this comment but that's ok, there should be an annual F40 etc etc meet that will let those of us who are less fortunate than those who own an F40, to be able to ride and/or drive the supercar of our dream's. I have let some of my trusted yet SMART friend's drive my 400+rwhp MR2T and my 500+rwhp SC300 without me and some I have turned down unless I was with them as a coach/mentor. Yah neither were a $100K+ car but they could kill you just as fast. When you teach someone how to drive safely yet quickly in a powerful car, much less the car of their dream's, you get as much enjoyment from it as they do. Flame suit on I'm ready, I have burn's from a hot wastegate and downpipe already, I can take it LOL! Hey you gotta love my enthusiasm even if you view my comment's a crap but I gotta be honest, Gregg
I'd have to agree with this. Anyone who does not own or who has never fully driven the cars needs to stop posting in here. The worst offenders seem to be the posters who are under 27, over 2,000 posts and understand the cars fully because they read it on the interweb..... Nothing is worse than opening up a thread to read about the owners experiences and then to see a post after post by 20 year old college kids. No offense to anyone, but the young guns need to put the keyboard away and read what the actual owners have to post. We could all learn
Why is the F50 paint so bad and not consistent with showing weave and hiding weave? ArtherD says is normal in F50. True? http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showpost.php?p=137760855&postcount=103
Build quality on the F50 is excellent as Boxer has noted, and the paint is more consistent as well. The weave is very visible in flat areas (especially below the wing and on the "hips"). As far as which car is better, its true, its very hard to compare these head to head...they are 2 different animals. I thought that the F50 being a bit newer would result in more of a disconnect from the road...far from it though. The hard nature of the suspension, and intimacy of the engine to the bulkhead insures that all the music and vibration is transmitted into the cockpit...and the "noise" is sensational ! My only criticism so far of the F50 is that while it is intimately loud on the inside, from the outside while driving alongside it, it seems a bit quiet. That can easily be remedied, as the clip from Reims adequately demonstrates. That being said, eventually someone will ask if you can only keep one which one would it be....that is where things get dicey
I wish I was in the position to be able to make such a choice but if I was, I would keep the F50. The F50 is more rare than an Enzo.
I guess it could have been perceved that way. I was refering to the F40's no holds bared, no creature comforts, no power anything, direct steering, or the drivers car that it is.