Why I think *Spoiler* didn't deserve the WDC

Interesting comparison...

 

Why do people continue to paint that accident as intentional ... it was an accident ... he got penalized.

His veer to the left was because the only possible escape was on the left ... survival instincts had him go left.

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This is a bit of a stretch. You should look forwards, not backwards.

 

It is clear and obvious to even someone with a passing knowledge of racing that Hamilton did not intentionall crash out Kimi... F1 cars accelerate and brake at a given rate, and drivers are used to 100% brakes or 100% gas - all the time. When Lewis passed the point at which Kimi hit the brakes, it was a certainty he was going to crash into him. He was following close and didn't realize Kimi was coming to a stop - by the time he did, it was too late.

It is incomparable to Schumi/Jacques... Schumi took out Villeneuve at the last race purely for his own benefit. In the case of Lewis/Kimi, it played into Massas hands, so it really can't be considered anything like the same type of situation.

Hamilton clearly drove the best of all the drivers this year - that is evidenced by the fact that he amassed more points, so on average he clearly performed better, despite FIA intervention to hold him back. To say he didn't drive the best is patently false. To say he did not deserve to drive this year is nonsense. There were a lot of silly mistakes... when Massa hit Lewis and spun him around, he was penalized for it, just as Lewis was for hitting Kimi. Therefore, by the logic presented, Massa took out a competitor, and therefore should have been excluded for the rest of 2008, correct? Agree? If not, then you are just looking for an excuse to say why Lewis shouldn't have won, IMO.

 

It is more interesting Schumi was stripped for all his points after his stunt, but Senna got away with it twice.

 

Twice? I only remember once, please enlighten me.

 

I dont think that is a good comparison at all. Running into someone by accident in the middle of the season in the pits (taking himself out remember) is very different to the first scenario where it was all or nothing to win the title. It would have been absurd to have banned Hamilton for the rest of the season for that. What about the other mistakes drivers have made this year? Am i right to assume by your logic Massa would not have deserved the title either as he span Hamilton, who unlike in your second example was his main title rival.

 

Sorry, my mistake

 

If Hammi hadnt crashed himself along with Kimi he would have won that race and clinched the WDC in Japan or earlier.
Rosberg did the same thing.
Why no cry for his head ?
Kimi punched Sutil out in Monaco.
Massa intentionally knocked LH off in China (?) which also cost him the WDC.
Why no cry of protest before the WDC results ?

 

Yep

Yep, and yet when Massa crashed into Bourdais minding his own business hugging the kerb coming out of the pits, he gets fined!!

Exactly.

 

Nonsense.

Rosberg hit Hamilton - so Rosberg intentionally did the same thing Hamilton did? Can't have it both ways... either drivers can stop in time or they can't. If they can, then Rosberg tried to take out Hamilton?

At the time Canada happened, Massa and Kimi were only 1 point apart, and Lewis was only a couple points ahead. It would serve zero purpose at all to take out Kimi, considering that he was competing with both Kimi and Massa (and Kubica), and taking out Kimi only ensured that he and Kimi both got no points and handed a big advantage to Massa and Kubica.

People see what they want to see. Despite clear evidence to the contrary and facts supporting the contrary view, they still prefer to hold a view that is clearly wrong, if it allows them to believe what they choose to believe. If Hamilton wanted to "take out Kimi", he could have done it on-track, in a turn, by touching his back tire and crashing him out and saying it was an accident. At least he stood the chance of not being penalized and at least being able to finish the race.

 

Lol, it's ok. It's an old argument anyway. Back on the subject, Hamilton is World Champion. get over it and move on. Honestly, no one looked too great this year.

 

100% agree. No one looked great in 2008 and it could have easily have been Massa winning it all but bottom line, Hamilton had 1 more pt. than Massa which makes him champ and if we are going by points then I see Kimi, Massa and Hamilton as being equal drivers as they all won or lost by 1 pt. dating back from last season. Next year should prove an even tighter race...we'll see.

 

Let's be very clear. Hamilton almost choked his 2nd championship in 2 years. Finishing 5th after barely passing Timo Glock on the wrong tires on the last lap is not how a deserving champion wins. Massa and Kimi did not drive like champions either. Schumie was nice to both Massa and Hamilton but must be thinking how pathetic these guys are compared to the drivers of the past. Vettel and Alonso are the drivers who should be driving for Ferrari in the future. Real racers that win in cars that should not....instead of the opposite.

 

Oh 2 years and he nearly won in his 1st and DID win in his 2nd year!! yeh that's a **** record mate!!

Get over it!!

 

So Schumacher is not a deserving champion for winning in a totally superior Ferrari in 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003 and 2004? Honestly...

Let's also remember that LH won in a car that is widely recognised as being inferior to this year's Ferrari. He has scored more points and more wins over the last 2 years than anybody else. He has been in F1 for only 2 years and he is the youngest F1 champion in history. How can you possibly say he is not worthy???

 

First one was Prost (accident), the second one was Senna (retribution- which he apologized for some time later).

 

It's hard to see when your eyes and face are scrunched so tight from all the sour grapes in your mouth.

 

+1000

 

+1000
At last, someone who can open their mind without it falling out.

 

+10001

 

Schumacher got away it after taking out Hill in '94. If Schumacher took out Villeneuve in '97 he would not have been disqualified. I believe he would have become world champion.

 

+1.


I've been saying that since it happened...

But i dont know anything...