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why isnt porsche giving more hp to the new 997?

Discussion in 'Porsche' started by scycle2020, Jul 11, 2004.

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  1. scycle2020

    scycle2020 F1 Rookie

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    with everyone uping the hp ante, the new 997 will on ly get 5 more hp and the s model gets35 more hp for an extra 10k.....i am sure it will be a better and more refined sports car, but it will not be significantly faster than the 996....i quess the gt3 and gt2 are still the bad boy p cars to have
     
  2. zjpj

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    I get your point, but I have two responses. First, the 997 is a bit of a facelift model. It's thought of by many as a bridge between the 996 and the 998, which should be a significantly different car. So, I didn't really expect serious changes. Second, do you think that the 997 is lacking compared to its competition? I guess its competition could be thought of as the Jag XKR, the SL500, M3, NSX, Viper - basically anything under 100K. The 996 wasn't getting completely left behind in this field and was selling quite well. Everyone is upping the ante, but Porsche, even with its minor increases in HP, probably won't be losing many customers. Time will tell.
     
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    i wasnt aware of the 998, this would make sense... i also agree that the porsche is a great sports car and the new one will probably be little better and they will sell all they can make...but as a car freak, if they put the gt3 engine in it, iwould be very tempted to buy, even for a price increase...but outside the track, most modern sports cars have more than enough power for speed limited, congested streets...
     
  4. matterhorn762

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    Although the 997 has 5 more HP, it has the IDENTICAL 3.6L as the 996. Curiously, the 997S is being introduced at the same time with a 3.8L.

    I would say it is fairly obvious that the 997S is the "real" new Porsche. But how can Porsche make more money? Put an S the end of it and charge 10k more.
     
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    Maybe because all the fuss about Porsche is the general balance of the car???

    Don't forget there will most likely be an X-something package that will give you an optional 25hp or so ... like right now. That's how Porsche makes their money! LOL
     
  6. zjpj

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    I don't even know if they've announced a Turbo 997. Some people I think have speculated that there may not even be a turbo version of the 997. So, who knows? Dealers say that they aren't told anything.

    The thing is that while Porsche as a company is doing just fine, 911 sales have been down. So, perhaps it is time either to do a major revamp or to scrap it and finally build a new model. Mid-engine, perhaps?
     
  7. racerx

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    Why. Why should they? They are changing the appearance to renew interest and according to some of the first test drives they have made a noticeable improvement in ride and handling. There is an owner on this board who owns both a gt2 or 3 and a 360. I read where he felt the 360 was superior in feel over some bumpy roads, from the articles i've seen that probably has been solved. Porsche sells the total package (like some other company) not some redlight dragger. What do you do when power is eventually maxed out?
    Here is the 997 turbo driving around. AFAIK The 998 is the new sedan designation.
    T
     
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    apparently the 997s has an adjustable suspension that solves the rough ride problem,but the regular 997 does not
     
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    zjpj.....

    I'd bet money that there will be no Turbo version of the 997.......and I'll also bet that the regular 997's go begging at dealer's lots.

    -It will have a short life span.....2 years at most probably, maybe even 3. They're not going to build a Targa version apparently.

    -PAG overbuilt the current 996 Turbo "big time" relative to all the other Turbo's and fooked the owner base as a result with the price point marketing of the GT2....and the X50 package......which is why there were few 2004 Turbo's built.....it's time to help resale values.

    PAG usually has a 2-3 year gap before they have introduced a new Turbo model in the past.....and this time they have some very valid reasons for making sure they wait.

    The 998 will be the V8 911 variant.
     
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    Not according to this:

    http://motortrend.com/future/spied/112_2006fvf/index6.html

    Hate to say it, but I never believe ANY of these rumors until the cars are out. I really seriously doubt that Porsche is dropping a V8 into the 911 anytime soon and the dealers I've spoken to have actually indicated that there definitely *will* be a 997 turbo and that there is no indication there will be any diversion from the usual Porsche pattern of introducing the new turbo a couple of years into the new model lifespan.
     
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    There will be a turbo as it is one of Porsche's most profitable lines, and it will retain a 3.6 not 3.8 liter flat 6. It will be out even sooner than the typical waiting period (18 months with luck) because as an evolution of the 996 it doesnt need quite the development that the 996 did when replacing the air-cooled 993. The question is whether there will be a GT2 or GT3.
     
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    or a GT1 :D
     
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    Well i guess you shouldn't believe your lyin eyes. Don't let idiot tape fool you. more pics;

    http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=12303


    The most knowlegeable source on the net for porsche news is RC. Here is a quote from him;
    "I expect from all of the "doubters" an excuse (or a beer, free choice... ) when the 997 hits the road.
    Guys, I put my word for it: when you see the 997 Carrera S in person, you'll be in love. True love.
    And it gets better...997 GT3, 997 Turbo...just can't wait to fall in love again and again and again.."

    T
     
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    who the heck is rc?
     
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    He is the editor of rennteam, lives in germany and has many contacts inside Porsche.
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    thanks
     
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    Porsche is probably just concentrating on their stupid SUV and putting less into the 911
     
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    The horsepower discrepency in this latest generation will get some of Porsche's sales I believe. With the *base* Corvette giving 400hp, it's arguable that the Vette is a *much* better performing vehicle available for thousands less. Especially with the reknowned Z06 coming with 450+hp why would anyone even want to buy a base model Porsche, if not just for the badge? Much less so than Ferrari I feel that Porsche has to match the competitive demands of the marketplace.
     

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