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Why Mercedes is keeping Bottas

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  1. william

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    Valtteri Bottas will not look to emulate Nico Rosberg’s tactics as he seeks to beat Lewis Hamilton to the 2021 Formula 1 world championship.

    https://www.grandprix247.com/2021/01/15/bottas-im-not-a-nico-rosberg/

    “However, looking ahead to the new campaign, Bottas said that he would continue to work in the best interests of the team rather than solely focusing on beating the seven-time world champion, who is yet to agree to a new contract.”

    This explains why Mercedes is keeping Bottas and do not wish to replace him with Russell. Bottas is a team player. Sorry for the detractors who would like the Mercedes team to tear itself apart with Russell coming to challenge strongly Hamilton.

    The fact is that Mercedes is in F1 to get results, not to entertain.
     
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  3. DF1

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    They do both results and entertain. Good results count and can entertain. Its not their fault they are good. I find the others lacking to challenge them consistently. I will never fault Mercedes for winning. Same with MS era at Ferrari. Winning as a focus with intent and organization to facilitate that.
     
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  4. Remy Zero

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    Few Factors:

    - Doesn't challenge Hamilton
    - Literally follows all orders and instructions
    - Probably cheap
    - Merc are so dominant, they don't need a powerful second driver to help them for the constructors title
     
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    Most people watch F1 on Sundays to often enjoy themselves and forget the boring company of their family. I doubt very much that Mercedes will improve its image by letting a duo of drivers monopolize the first places without any fight between them.
     
  6. SimCity3

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    Nothing new here.

    It's been stage managed for Lewis not to have any competition.

    He was throwing tantrums in 2016 and needs cotton wool.

    Poor little Princess :D
     
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  8. william

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    Bottas is a good team player, and play well the cards he has been dealt with.
     
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    So here we go again ,Bottas will come out as the Mk 4 new improved version be a bit bolshy to start the season,after weeks of therapy with his mind coach, then somehow mess up and lose the momentum yet again .

    To beat Lewis you have to race a bit dirty now and then,push the rules to the limit maybe step over the boundary of fairness and team orders. Of course Lewis usually drives fair etc but if seriously challenged he can give as good as he takes or even more.

    Being fast is not enough to beat Lewis ,it doesn't work .Mr nice guy comes second, all the truly great drivers have a killer instinct, they would do anything to win.
     
  10. DF1

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    +1 I would like a seat at Mercedes to experience such a machine. He has wins. He drives in F 1. Such a sad life lol :)
     
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  11. william

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    It's better being Number 2 at Mercedes than Number One in a lot of teams I could mention.

    A driver can have a wonderful career by having a supportive rule in the best team of the moment.

    That's what a lot of people cannot understand.

    Look at Coulthard, Barichello, Irvine, Massa, etc ...
     
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  13. Bas Jaski

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    Everyone understands.

    Everyone is frustrated by complete and utter one sided dominance.
    Absolutely right.
     
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  14. william

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    I am not frustrated, and you don't speak for everyone.

    Remember that.
     
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    All drivers who reach this level of competition dream of becoming world champion.
    They are all convinced that they are the best.
    What Bottas is going through is a huge narcissistic wound.
    It is totally inaccurate to say that he can thrive in this situation.
    This sport is based on the uncertainty that generates emotion itself.
    Saying that watching a team winning more than 80 percent of the races every year is not boring is absolutely false.
     
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  17. DeSoto

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    At Mercedes he's always had one season contracts, that shows that even as a number two they don't rate him too highly. Or maybe it's just that Toto is a son of a ***** and the only method he knows to keep the loyalty is with extortion.

    Some may say that "well, it's better to be number two at Mercedes". Maybe. But I've read that someone made a study about olympic athletes and they noticed that those who got a bronze medal are more satisfied than the ones who got silver: it's because "getting close but not there" is somewhat frustrating. Add that to the humilliating one year deals, the constant pit calls, that Russell beating him at the first try, knowing that everybody in the paddock "knows it"... and I'd willing to bet that right now Bottas is not a happy man.
     
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  18. Mitch Alsup

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    Lewis is teh person able to get strings of WDCs with Merc,
    Bottas is capable of bringing in enough points to cement WCC (where the money is)::

    If Mercedes dropped Bottas (like I predict they will) Lewis will only put up with Russel for 1 or 2 years.
    Which might not be the WORST thing MERC has done (looking forward.)
     
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    I think the number two position at Mercedes feels like a bronze medal to Bottas. He is not really competing for the title, so all the wins and poles he can bag now are his 'better than nothing' bronze medals.
     
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    In short he's happy to take the money and finish 2nd whilst Merc pretend Hamilton is a legend despite Russell jumping into his car and proving just how much better it is than the rest. At this point Maldonado would dominate in this car.

    Pairing somebody who would race with Hamilton would destroy the legacy that him and Mercedes hope to cash in on for many years.
     
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    These are the best results he can get, that's for sure. But maybe results are not everything in this life. Do you remember when he said, in those rare ocasions when he won a race, "for those who doubted, **** you"? Those are the words of someone who knows that people laughs at him when he's out of the room.

    The problem is that probably it's too late for him if he wants to find something decent outside of Mercedes.
     
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    It's better getting bronze medals as Number 2 to Hamilton at Mercedes, than being driving for a lot of teams.

    Probably Bottas is realistic about his chances to do better. He must know that he isn't a top driver.
     
  23. william

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    World titles have been lost by pairing 2 top drivers in the same team.
     
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    Doesn't even need a 'top' driver as Russell proved. An average driver who will actually race would give Hamilton problems in an equal Merc.
     
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    Would Mercedes benefit from it? I don't think so.
     
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    Given that they are giving the hard sell on Hamilton being one of the greats I very much doubt they would ever put an actual racer in the other car who would quickly disprove it.
     
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    Since for commecial reasons Mercedes want to build Hamilton as an historical figure, they would be mad to spoil the show.

    I can perfectly inderstand that, but the Hamilton detractors won't have it.
     
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    Why wouldn't they keep him? There is team harmony. They are successful almost beyond measure. And Bottas is a very good driver.

    The surprise would be if they chose not to keep him for 2021
     
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