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Discussion in '612/599' started by OmbryAmbry, Apr 12, 2019.
Please explain the "colored lamps" you are talking about.
A Mustang they both have a horse as a emblem.
The head lamps are colored. Look at post #24.
They just ask what it is. Until they see the prancing horse. We know that it looks like a Ferrari but it's not universally recognizable in its design like its counterparts. It doesn't concern me, though. I think it's an elegant car that's also sexy as hell.
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The 612 has the Ferrari 4 seater stigma, that's all. It's a beautiful machine.
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I see what you mean, Randkin. The lights are clear and don’t look like this photo in real life
The FF is the 2+2 getting no love right now. Currently, low miles OTO 612's are higher than similar early FF's. Been watching 2+2's since the GTC/4 and never seen anything like it.
It's possible to convert them to manual. I know a place here in town that converted a 430 Scuderia with fantastic results. They say the 612 would be a lot easier.
If I don't like the F1/a, that's my backup plan.
George, I think the lack of love of the FF is because of the shooting brake design. I have never liked the look since the MGB through the BMW Z3 and others probably feel the same way. The 612 has much more of a classic timeless look. I suspect long term the 612 will ultimately retain higher values than the FF.
I debated (and drove different cars) for a year before I chose my 2008 just pre OTO versus a manual .
The HGTC package and Bose dual DIN were key: CCM brakes, Handling GT, and Challenge wheels makes for a much better car overall. I didn't like the two tone effect of the OTO and I didn't want a black car ( for example MRY's black OTO is magnificent)
A manual conversion is appealing but honestly my 2008 is a much better car than the early manuals.
As regards the FF, my wife isn't much into cars but she has a good eye for design. I casually pointed out an FF a few years back and she said "That's a Ferrari ? It looks like a bread van. No thanks."
Practical yes, AWD yes, fast yes, but fugly to me.
I imagine doing a manual conversion on a pre-OTO 612 wouldn't be too bad... in fact, I believe if you search there is a thread on here somewhere about somebody doing just that. I think it would be much, much harder on an OTO, since there was never a manual version of the OTO at all.
That's a good point, I'll have to look into it. I actually like the earlier cars because I don't want CC brakes or a panoramic roof.
It's a touring car to me, so I don't even care if it has a handling package.
The panoramic roof is good or bad as a matter of taste. I like mine.
Unless you have experienced to transformation in "feeling and grip" when you switch the mannetino to "sport", you just don't understand. It becomes a true , hard core sports car. Turn it off and cruise to dinner.
The CC brakes will last longer than I will and leave no dust. You will not wear them out, just don't break them.
I'm late to the party but if I may...
I cut my "parts" teeth on the 360, F430, and 612 respectively so I'm a bit biased, however the 612 is considerably underappreciated. I love their styling, albeit now it seems a bit dated, but the side profile is as solid as anything at the time. Regardless, the 612 is by far my favorite 2+2 and doesn't get nearly enough respect within the community as a solid work of art.
I like them quite a bit but my preference is FF (thought certainly out of warranty a 612 is a much more wiser choice). I can understand why people don't like them as they are a bit of an acquired taste. Not for me, I've been a fan since day 1
Cannot get enough of mine. Owning a bunch of garage queens, I really appreciate the ride, power and handling of this car. Not to mention the exhaust that is soooo loud. Louder than my Barchetta with Tubi.
This perpetual myth about 4 seater Ferraris really irritates me. Its a self fulfilling prophecy!
Non-Ferrari people generally have no idea about this snobbery about 2 vs 4 seater Ferraris. Its only when you start reading the car press or forums that you find this opinion. Someone has to mention it every time and make sure it get perpetuated.
No one berates Aston Martins for having 4 seats or the venerable Porsche 911 for that matter. So why Ferrari?
Some people say they are not a proper Ferrari. What does that mean? Its not a full on sports car? No it isn’t, its a GT car. However its a GT car that will most other GTs cars for dead on a twisty road. Very much a Ferrari in that regard.
The 612 is a beautiful car that is aging well. Fast forward 30 years and I think it will be different story.
I wanted something different, something less obvious, something elegant and classy that bucked the trend of increasingly aggressive looking cars. I also wanted something dependable. Thats why I bought a 612.
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