Why reverse so bad in a 360

Mine reverses just fine. Some have said the clutch (F1) never fully engages in reverse but I'm not sure about that. 360 are also reported to have quite a high reverse gear ratio. Several small stabs at the throttle gets me where I need to get in reverse.

 

Mine is a manual.

It seems to do a stutter step when backing up, but never out of the garage only when fully warmed up. Car moves but the rear end seems to jiggle a bit.

Some have said differential???

Just had fluid changed and seems a bit better.

I believe there is some sort of additive that could help.

Sorry I cannot be more precise.

Good luck!!

 

This is just an idea ....
If all the motor/transmission mounts are good, you might have the center hole where the nut and bolt of the tranny mount connects to the frame, been oval, so when you reverse, the tranny moves up creating a stutter effect.

 

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Using reverse gear is the same as pulling away in second gear all the time. The clutch is allowed to slip to stop the motor from stalling.
Keep reversing to a minimum and be constant once the car starts rolling, don’t take little stabs at it.

One thing I noticed between my road car and my Challenge race car is how very harsh the Challenge is in reverse it kicks in hard; it does have a different clutch plate and TCU set-up than a road going 360 though. I would not recommend using a Challenge TCU in a STD road going 360 without changing the clutch plate to a Challenge at the same time.

 

Steve: Is the Challenge TCU the same as a CS TCU that i'm considering installing? Will I see the same problem if I put the CS TCU in?

 

The CH TCU is different again better than the early model 360, but is less aggressive than the Challenge.

 

Steve- You hit the nail on the head. Reverse is way too high a gear in the 360 and the 575M, much better on the F430 and 599.

Reverse gear locks up just like any other gear if you drive far enough in reverse. You can demonstrate that to yourself on a downhill parking lot. It just takes a lot of clutch slippage to get started initially.

360 1st gear 3.286:1, Rev 2.562:1, 2nd 2.158:1

 

Steve
A lot of people (me included) have switched to a CS TCU with no ill effect -- in fact with great results compared with the auto adjustable one in the early models. So is he Challenge race TCU different to the CS TCU?
Alan

 

Excellent recommendations.

Thanks Steve.

Dan

 

Little stabs (on the flat) = less clutch slip for same distance travelled in reverse. (coasting the majority of the distance)

Pretty sure the Challenge TCU does not work in a std 360.

Reversing with CS TCU is the same as my orig TCU.

 

I’m talking about a Challenge race car TCU not a road going CS TCU. The Challenge has a race sintered bronze clutch plate with harsh on or off clutch response. CS TCU is fine for road going cars with a carbon clutch plate.

 

Yes. plenty of advice on here that a challenge TCU wont work. Not sure why?

 

Terry I really think that is only because you are finally getting the torque required down to the torque transferring ability of a partially released clutch. Any clutch will quit slipping if you reach that point of equilibrium.

 

Only the first generation mount was designed that way. 2nd and 3rd are symmetrical.

 

Brian- Yup, no doubt. Having a relatively low torque engine (by Ferrari standards) does not help either.