Why the 360 is better than the 430

The ECU that you are pertaining too is to run engine dynamics and engine diagnostics.

Why do I say its the last ANALOG Ferrari,

A basic layout in the interior,
Needles for tach and speedometer,
Basic steering wheel
Hydraulic steering

What instrument panel is digital, are you talking about the pixel that say "OK"?

Having a car to have an ECU does not mean its not an analog feeling car.

Thats not what is defined as an analog car. Otherwise, my 997 TT or my 997 RS would not be an analog car either.

 

Bluetooth Taz. You forgot bluetooth.

Oh, and a built in passenger airbag disconnect. WAAAY more electronics than the 360.

 

Bart- Wrong on nearly all counts, except possibly feel. The 360 has an electronic throttle, electronic control of the shocks, ABS/ASR, air conditioning, steering boost, gauges through an instrument panel ECU etc, etc. Analog Ferraris are like my old Dino and Daytona, with nothing controlled by ECUs, no power steering, no ABS/ASR.

360s are great Ferraris, but do not paint them as something they are not. The 550 is a lot more analog than a 360, and it has a ton of ECUs, too. The days of analog Ferraris were over long before the 360 showed up.

ECU means electronic control unit.

 

It is red!

 

I understand what ECU means.
I cannot change how you describe analog cars. I am not painting them as a car for everybody.
But you can give some of us the benefit that an analog car is not what you describe them. Because other people describe analog as a BMW e60 or a 997 911 or a lambo gallardo, are those not analog to you? Then we have different description of what analog is.

I started to drive when cars dont have power steering, power windows or ABS. That is not what analog means for me.

It is the feel from the road, to the steering wheel to your hands.

 

I know, never mind about facts. Feel is often improved by ECUs, but that does not make it analog.

 

Sorry but the 360 is solidly in the digital era column.

Your definition of analog is very tortured at best.




The instruments are fully digital in operation. I am sorry that the presence of chip controlled needles fooled you.

 

I would honestly say the last analog Ferrari is the Testarossa. No electronic fuel injection, no abs, no airbags, no check engine lights, rudimentary ignition modules....wouldn't even call it a computer lol ....and the only costs are the services....nothing really goes wrong.
My egear Murcielago on the other hand is full of frustrating electronic garbage. I thought it had no feel until I test drove an Aventador....now that is soft car!

Shamile

Freeze. . . Miami Vice!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Tapatalk

 

If thats how you define a analog car, without a chip, then we are in different sphere of things.

 

Yup, that about covers it.

 

The 360 has a analog steering wheel and thats is freeeeeking good stuff. Looooove it!!! Best steering wheel all time!

For me the 360 is the first modern V8 fr.o.m. Ferrari and that is pretty cool.

 

Now back to the thread... Because we can create and participate in this thread without fear of appearing presumptuous.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

The rest of the world and I are in a different sphere from you. Yes, that's true.

 

Another retooled car set the 348, 355 pair. Same chassis, new bumpers, door scoops, 5 valve engine, F1, air boxes and so on. But same chassis, new bumpers
360,430 ... 308,328 ... 458,488.

Sent from my SM-G900T using Tapatalk

 

So, a car with a chip that is analog, is digital...? Interesting

 

Thats good to know.

Atleast I know where sphere to go in this forum, you have your own idea about things, others have another.

 

Terry why do you have to spoil the discussion with facts, eh?

 

If you bump, while walking past, the tailight of an F430 they can break!

 

then don't bump them

 

The 360 is sleek, sexy, and curvy. The 430 has Ross Perot ears.
Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

Do you remember Villi? Also without any buttons on the steering wheel...
Your assertion bears some truth in it.

Image Unavailable, Please Login

 

It's hard on a forum to gauge who is who... on this forum Rifledriver is one to listen to. His ideas have been formed over decades repairing FCars. Others.. well most don't know where the ECU's even ARE!

 

I can tell you which one is better BUT tell me where to find the darn ECUs first.

 

Manufacturers have thru the years been making cars that will maintain utmost driver involvement in the moderns cars. Car enthusiasts have not excluded moderns cars to not be analog just because they have an ECU or driving aids.

What sets apart some modern cars from the rest of the modern cars is how much of involvement is left to the drivers.

Being hydraulic, electric, digital or having a computer does not remove a car from being analog.

It is driver involvement or sensation to the driver.

Being mechanically inclined does not give anybody the monopoly to driver sensation.

That is why, different car enthusiasts will define their last analog car. For some it maybe an e39 M5, for some it maybe a Viper, for some it maybe an s2000, others a 996 or 997.

I respectfully disagree with anybody to say that an ECU will remove a car from being analog.

And nobody in this forum has the monopoly about peoples sensation, THAT IS MY POINT!

I gave the F1 360 the benefit of still an analog, although I own a gated, just because in theory or fact, it is still a manual transmission, just without a 3rd pedal.

Some driving aids have not excluded all cars to have the feel of being analog.

Atleast we can agree to disagree. No problem, thats life.

 

If you unbuckle your jeans and reach behind.. riight in between each cheek... lol