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Discussion in 'Porsche' started by PhilNotHill, Apr 4, 2011.

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  1. ECS

    ECS Karting

    Oct 26, 2004
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    Brian Albertson

    There you go!.... back on topic without personal slurs.
     
  2. 575Mike

    575Mike Formula 3

    Mar 11, 2004
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    Michael
    What facts do you have to support that I "unnecessarily beat on" the car?

    What facts do have that I did not follow the Porsche manual you quoted?
     
  3. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    That's fine with me.... I'm waiting for the apology otherwise.
     
  4. 575Mike

    575Mike Formula 3

    Mar 11, 2004
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    Here are the facts in juxtaposition to the allegations made here that I "beat on the car", "sold the car without a care" or "flipped" the car...

    Drove the car hard from new. Never bounced off the rev limiter to my recollection, but I drove it up and down through most of the rev range.

    I relied heavily on the advice of Mark White who both races Porsches and restores them, including a 911S he is restoring for me at present. Mark took me out and showed me how to break it in.

    This is obviously a controversial subject, and even many dealers will tell you "off the record" to drive the car hard immediately. Some dealers, on the other hand, will dissuade you from driving it hard.

    If you visit Rennlist, there are several good discussions about this topic. Apparently, the U.S. cars have more conservative break in requirements than ROW.

    Had a venture shield installed when I purchased it. Had the oil changed at 1000 miles. The latter was highly recommended.

    I did not review the over rev print out from the test completed on the car by the second owner before the car was sold to him, but I'm assuming it turned out ok because he purchased the car.

    I was mistaken earlier about what I sold the car for. I actually lost closer to 28K, but I had a blast with the car and funded my daughter's college cost at Notre Dame.

    The buyer emailed me in December asking about the Lo Jack I installed, and no mention was made that it was "beat on."

    Thanks.
     
  5. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    Hearsay....

    OTOH, This is the only thing you posted that sounds like a fact......
    Which is in conflict with this:

    Break in hints for the first
    2,000 miles/3,000 kilometers
    The following tips will be helpful in obtaining
    optimum performance from your new Porsche.
    Despite the most modern, high-precision manufacturing
    methods, the moving parts must still wear
    in with each other. This wearing-in occurs mainly in
    the first 2,000 miles/3,000 kilometers.

    RENNLIST discussions are great and all but I'd still hang my hat on the Porsche Owners Manual.


    BTW, still waiting for that apology. You gonna be a big man or a POO-POO Diaper?
     
  6. 575Mike

    575Mike Formula 3

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    #81 575Mike, May 11, 2011
    Last edited: May 11, 2011
    I'm sorry, I don't want that to happen. :)

    ^^^ Sorry, couldn't help myself. ^^^ ;)

    Dave, you apologize for making things up here, and I'll apologize for calling you names? We can do it face to face like men. I'm going to be in Orange County this summer, why don't I buy you lunch or meet for a beer?
     
  7. darth550

    darth550 Six Time F1 World Champ
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    You know I eat a lot, right??? :D

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
  8. 575Mike

    575Mike Formula 3

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    Well, had you claimed that the GT3 was "unnecessarily eaten on" you would have had me. :)
     
  9. crcs

    crcs Formula 3
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    Apr 18, 2009
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    Most of the "break in" periods have been written up by lawyers specifically for the US market. US is a lawsuit happy country where personal responsibility goes out the window and liability gets shifted to whoever is being blamed. Lawyers figured putting a break in page in the manual will allow boobus americanus to get used to the car first, instead of killing himself on the first turn out of the dealership.
     
  10. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jul 3, 2006
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    Interesting point.
     
  11. PhilNotHill

    PhilNotHill Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Jul 3, 2006
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    We are back home and finally are putting some miles on the Boxster S. Got over 2000 miles coming home from Cosco. first time I took her to 7 grand and with the sports exhaust the wail was most intoxicating.

    At 90 mph the car held the road like a champ and we were driving with the top down.

    Life is good. :cool:

    BTW going thru Glenwood Springs a silver Lambo was pulled over by two cops. Their tow cars had the Lambo blocked in so he couldn't move his car. the blonde passenger was pacing outside the car while the male driver was passing out documents. We were in a 35 mph hour section of the 4 lane main drag about a mile from city limits and 55 mph. I wonder what happened.

    I was following this same car the day before in Aspen and they were driving very conservatively.
     

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