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Will Alfa buy Sauber?

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  1. 375+

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    Not a halo in sight--that includes the protagonists.
     
  2. furoni

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    The best thing about the teaM IS THE LOGO AND CHARLES...LET'S HOPE THE CAR IS HALF DECENT TOO...
     
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    I like the colors but the layout could be better.
     
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  4. TheMayor

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    Love the look.

    Where's the HALO?
     
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    Looks great so far. Let's see what the final livery is by the time it hits the track in March.
     
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    I think its significant they didn't put the HALO on it for this launch. Too controversial. People would have ragged on it and the negative press would have overshadowed the press conference

    There is no question this was INTENTIONAL. They left off the HALO for a reason. It was not an accident or oversight.
     
  8. vinuneuro

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    It's a repainted 2013 Sauber.
     
  9. TheMayor

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    They still could have put the Halo on. They decided not too. The livery isn't until next year either.
     
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    They all did the exact same thing with that stupid shark fin last year. Not one car was presented with it, but they all showed up with it for testing.
     
  12. 444sp

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    According to the regulations, how different? how similar could this Alfa Romeo-Sauber be on the SF18-H?
    Having 4 Ferraris could be very useful to subtract points to Hamilton on the tracks that the Ferrari is competitive as it happened several times this year, and these could be 6 if they go for a Maserati-Haas agreement.
     
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  13. Mitch Alsup

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    So, in Ferrari support camp we have: Ferrari, Hass, Sauber
    In Mercedes camp we have: Mercedes, Williams, Force India
    In Renault camp we have: Renault, Red Bull, Torro Rossa

    Why not just let Engine manufactures run 6 car teams?
     
  14. 4rePhill

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    I'll give you a clue:

    Torro Roso have a far closer relationship to Red Bull than Ferrari/Alfa Romeo do to Sauber - Is the Torro Roso simply a repainted Red Bull?: No it's not!

    If you paid more attention to F1 news, you would have read that Sauber have decided to reject buying in large parts of the Ferrari car (as Haas have done), for their own car, and have instead decided to make use of their own wind tunnel, and design their own car themselves.

    Were the Sauber to simply be a repainted Ferrari SF 18-H (or be incredibly similar to the 2018 Ferrari), then it would stand a good chance of facing a protest from rival teams, and there would be a massive risk of it being disqualified from the 2018 season - On that basis, there's no way Sauber would entertain the idea (and the same goes for a "Haas/Maserati" Ferrari car)
     
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    Leclerc should cream Ericsson next year.The only thing keeping him in F1 is $$$$$.
     
  17. st@ven

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    honestly, I do not get all the excitement. Does this not simply mean Ferrari people will work/assist/teach and coach alfa people in running an F1 team?

    good for Alfa but I do feel this will be on the expense of Ferrari in the end.
    After Ferrari wins the WCC again this is oke but now?
     
  18. Foncool

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    I’ve been thinking this as well but from a pure marketing standpoint. Depending on what the deal is financially with Sauber beyond being an engine supplier, it obviously won’t be anywhere near what it cost to run Ferrari. A Maserati-Haas is almost a natural, then FIAT has all their sporting brands in the highest profile form of racing.

    Mercedes, Renault, Honda etc. don’t have the historical prestige brands to do the same thing. It would only also work for VW if they entered as an engine supplier. Porsche, Lamborghini, Bugatti, etc.
     
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    Actually, VW would be better off with using the Audi brand. This has been much discussed for over a decade at least. Still, if you could amortize the investment on a per car sold basis, it simply makes the most sense.
     
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    Here is the press conference

     
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    This picture is from when F-1 cars were really F1 cars... mean and aggressive & hard to drive. Love the Alfa from 1980-81... when it was the actual factory effort.
     
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    VW's F-1 heritage brands are really - Bugatti & Porsche...both from a long, long time ago. Bugatti from the early mid 50's ( or 20's-40's) and then Porsche from 1960 and 61... as their own team.
     
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    It looked pretty good at Watkins Glen in 1980--pole position and led the race until ignition failure. It sounded pretty good too.
     
  25. TheMayor

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    For sure Alfa licensed material sales will go way, way up from this. It would be great to see them-- on a podium next to Ferrari of course. :)
     
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