Will Ferrari respond to The Senna and should they?

The Porsche seems more like leader than the Mclaren p1. Out of the three I definitely take the Laferrari 1st. It's impressive considering the tech on it like not a lot of active aero and fancy tech execpt hybird yet still able to be close to the lap times of both tech monsters down to .hundredth, 1 or 2 tenths between the 3. I personally take the Porsche 918 next as it seems way more impressive of a beast than the Mclaren P1 is.

 

I know it's expensive and was produced in low numbers but the p1 gtr lm is still the fastest road legal car around the ring and other circuits, it was 14 seconds faster than the 918.

either way we are in exciting times with the AMG Project One, Valkyrie and Senna/BP23 ahead of us, all of which will push the boundaries imo.

ferrari don't need to respond as they are making great cars and are in demand

 

That p1 has never been taken seriously by anyone. It toke an even more powerful p1 to beat the normal 918. Even then the car is not even called production with only 5 examples being made of that version. Plus it's done by a aftermarket specialty which converted a McClaren gtr track only car and not a road car version being used.

 

Ferrari will probably look at Project one (duh Mercedes F1 are their prime F1 competition the car also has the proper F1 engine) and the Aston Martin car (cause Newey designed obviously is labeled as revolutionary to most and definitely something nobody would dare estimate when someone like him is designing it) as prime competition. The Senna not so much I don't think. They will respond to these two as it is probably the strongest for them to respond.

 

The more I see Senna's and the various models the more I like it. I remember when the TR7 came out, "the shape of things to come." Not one of my friends liked it yet I did. And guess what? It was the shape of cars moving forward.

 

The TR7 came after the X1/9, which was an incredibly successful car. Around 1979 I'd see one very few blocks!

Also, I test drove a TR7 at the time, and thought it was heavy and awkward. The X1/9 handled like a dream. It would kill Corvettes in tight Gymkhana courses.

 

I think the Senna GTR was eclipsed in Geneva by the AM-RB offering.

The brutality of the Senna’s look in order to get the desired downforce and weight reduction, in AM form, became beauty once again.

Naturally aspirated 12-cylinder with red line over 11,000?! . More horse power than kilograms?! More downforce than weight? Oh my glorious goodness!


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Exactly!

 

That's someone who is definitely completing in one of the fastest series to REALLY show how you make an entrance especially from a man like him. Adrian is someone you would bank on to have a great showing no matter what. And these stats are amazing. This will probably eat every track record if the stats hold true. Definitely this and the PISTA are the highlights of the Geneva show in my opinion.

Edit: Also 3 g of force now definitely that's near f1 territory. I think this will probably be the new track only car to beat honestly. This makes the Senna look tame in camparsion. Looks like the Fxxk Evo may need to be upgraded way more to best this cause the AM Pro looks atmosphere insane.

 

More of the Valkyrie and Senna GTR here:



Both cars are impressive

 

First test drives are online:

 

The McLaren Senna looks amazing! Anyway, Ferrari is always upping their game regardless of what other manufacturers do. So, sit back and enjoy it.

 

Or least favorite car youtube posted this statement a little while ago:

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I know from a news sites that Porsche are making their next hypercar EV, but what about Ferrari? Anyone know if its true or not? I seriously hope not.

 

I would think we'd get at least one more V12 hybrid, but ten years from now, maybe all electric.

 

I hope you’re correct.

 

So true.
I would buy that car for the name alone: VALKYRIE!

 

Ferrari's response will be the all electric super car that will do 225 mph.

 

I thought it may be worth resurrecting Tim’s original question in light of:
1) Unveiling of Ferrari’s 5 year plan
2) Accumulated experience behind the wheel of the Senna
3) Last night’s preview of the McLaren Speedtail which adds another dimension to the question

As a driving focused dyed in the wool Ferrarista, my main interest is F-cars that offer a unique experience behind the wheel. To me the F40/F50 era is special, and have been searching for a modern day road car that offers the same underlying diamond edged focus that rewards driver commitment and skill without rounding off the sharp edges. After a few weeks of familiarisation, the Senna is a car that fits that bill for me. Exiting the car covered in sweat, head still spinning having reached a new level of driving nirvana, it reminds me of every track outing in the F40, of course all updated for 2018 with a great deal more power, downforce, braking and safety. The car is lightweight, functionally minimalist, and the styling is very much function over form, as was the case 30 years ago.

With the 5 year plan now unveiled, my question is, is such a car part of the plan? The new rear mid-engined car in the lineup (sitting above the 488) may be slated to provide this kind of experience, but seems more likely to be a “regular” model.

The McLaren Speedtail unveil yesterday throws up another interesting avenue: a 1035hp hybrid/1430kg/400kmh 3 seater that eschews the current trend of functional, aero-led industrial design of their current models for a streamlined tear drop that recalls the elegance of the XJ220. In some ways, it is McLaren’s Monza SP, broadly building on the heritage of the F1, but in reality is an all new car packing significant development – particularly flexible integrated aero surfaces in the tail and carbon-titanium materials, and moves the game forward for McLaren. Will the next Icona models be the platform for some of the newer Ferrari technology or will it remain a limited R&D, high margin product as it currently appears to be?

 

I tend to believe that it will be the latter. Ferrari have said that the Icona series will re-interpret classical themes, based though on regular production models. So, the mid-engine car that will sit above the 488 and the new hypercar are the ones expected to move the game forward.

PS: Is the Senna too compromised as a road car?

 

the Senna is a special car for sure. looking forward to the speedtail too

 

the term "regular production model" was not mentioned in the slides. for future iconas, i think the base car and production numbers will ( and need to) depend on what car they're going to interpret. there are some classics which ( their interpretation) require laferrari like chassis, performance and very limited number (>500). they could also build track-only iconas

 

I believe that the carbon shell and top of the line tech will remain privileges of the hypercars.

 

Enrico Galliera Chief Marketing Officer of Ferrari said:
"One is what we call our top-of the-range model, that we don't have at the moment, that will come very soon, that is set to deliver uncompromised performance. What we are planning to have is something that will be a real supercar even though [it's in] the standard range."

He is referring to the new (above the 488) mid-engine supercar as real supercar, which in Ferrari`s terminology means cars like LaF, Enzo, F50 etc.. The 488 is considered as a sports car by Ferrari.
So if they are talking about a supercar in the standard range that might be what here for most of the time is considered as hypercar.

 

There will still be a limited production halo car. They will just add another model, below the halo car and above the 488. A kind of new age Testarossa.

 

An interesting question. Based on my experience so far, I would say the car really makes sense on the track. It seems happy enough on the road, but with the brakes and tyres needing heat (and the tyres shed it it quickly on the road), the engine singing above 3.8-4k rpm only, to use the car on the road as intended is quite hard. For me it is best thought of as a turn-key track car that you can drive straight from home to the track, do the tyre pressures, warm up, and away you go. And to have that level of ability and focus on track, and yet be road legal for the journey home is quite special.

It is a totally different type of car to a Speciale/720 or a LaFerrari for that matter. A greater proportion of those cars' ability can be enjoyed on the road and they perform well on the track. But the Senna experience really comes alive on the track, and there it is mind-bending.