Will Massa win this year?

Who is Massa? That's what I put because I don't see him getting close to 1st. If he does get in that position, it'll be because Kimi, Michael, and Fernando all DNF'd. Or another USGP...

 

Well since he was able to beat Kimi out of third I can see him getting the podium but I don't see him out driving MS or FA.

 

I voted yes, but I would have like an option "it is possible."

I think massa can win only if misfortune strikes MS. I think MS will always be faster.

Realistically, what do you think would happen if Massa was P1 and MS was P2 in the early stages of a race (less than half way). Of course there would be no t"team orders", but I think MS would find his way by!

 

Unless MS has an incredible WC driver point lead, no. Ferrari gets constructor points regardless of the driver, so if both are on the track MS will always have the advantage in pit strategy and equipment. The only scenario I can see Massa winning involves MS out of the race or damaged.

 

Agree with everything you said. And I was thinking of the 1st corner in Germany as well. Massa clearly gave way, but I think it was the smart thing to do. He would be destroyed by the press if "he" had taken both Ferraris out at the 1st turn. I'm sure there is an "understanding" in such situations that the teams #2 driver give way to the #1 driver.

 

I voted yes, but, as has been pointed out, it depends on where Alonso, Raikkonen, and Schumacher are.

And possibly Jenson, who I'm starting to like for some reason...

 

Agree

 

I voted yes. I can see MS and FM running one-two and MS's engine gives out or something. I think FM has some skill and can run with the top drivers, remember he did stay with MS and FA pretty good in the first stint at the Ring.

Mark

 

I think FM have a chance of winning his first GP this year, under the right condition that is. It will probably happen later in the season as he matures behind Michael. I don't think he is close to being on par with MS, FA, KR or even JPM and unfortunately, I don't think he ever will either.

 

I think that is because FA had decided to conceed the race to MS and preserve his engine for the next race. Plus, I think he wants to slow the pace down enough so KR can catch FM and maybe even pass him to minimize points gained by Ferrari on the constructor's front. It was good to see him unfazed with KR breathing down his neck. I think he is showing potential as a GP driver and even a winner, but he is still a long way from being able to challenge for a world title.

 

I think he has a chance but it might possibly be luck with others having problems

 

If MS, both Renaults and both McLarens break down .....................

 

I've voted No way allthough that sounds a bit harsh. Somehow I don't have the feeling he's got it. He said it himself in the post race interviews. He was able to hold on to MS and FA in the early stages of the race but then suddenly MS and FA found some extra pace and he lost valuable time there. If he's winners material he should have been able to hold on and find that extra pace himself too.

I know it's just a matter of tenths of seconds but it counts in F1.

So bar some misfortune on the others I don't think he can win on his own merit.

 

Not sure if I can agree with that. I think Constructor championship is more important to Renault and FB, especially with FA leaving next year. If anything, Renault is at least as quick as the McLaren and so far, Renault has shown superior form when compared to the McLaren. Ferrari on the other hand, has shown that it is closer to Renault in the right hands and with the right race plan in place. And as we had discussed in the past, it will be hard enough for MS to catch and pass FA in the point standings, let along KR's chance to challange FA. I am not saying it is not possible, just that it will be difficult.

Also, it is given that FA slowed and paced his race after the 2nd pitstop, after he tried in two laps to see if he has a realistic chance of catching MS. He gave up on winning the race, and slowed as you already know. With Fisi so far back, he knew Ferrari can gain a fair amount of points on the WCC by having finished 1 & 3. Also, as FA slowed and FM being stalked by KR, I am sure they all know that FM is relatively young when it comes to on-track dueling with the top drivers, and given the personalities that had been shown so far in their young F1 careers, there stands a good chance that FM and KR may take each other out thus killing two birds with one stone. And if FM actually becomes a threat, he can probably pull away with relative ease as he had shown through out the race that he has the faster car and can control the pace better than FM can.

 

I voted yes, but only as a posability. Just like everyone else has been saying, something has to happen to the other top 3 or 4 drivers for him to win one IMO.

 

I keep wondering if Heidfeld will ever get a win.

Seems there are a lot of Patrese's in F1, but a lot of DeCesaris's also.

 

I think team politics will allow Massa to win maybe 1 race, but most likely, the Ferrari team will always want MS to win. My 2 cents.

 

i said yes. in a red car, all things are possible!