will viper have to up the ante when the new z06 comes out?

with the new z06 due out next year with 500hp and close to 3000lbs weight,the viper is no longer the king of the american car performance hill(i know the saleen s7 and ford gt are faster but they are limited production)..will a new viper come out with more hp and torque? perhaps this is already inthe pipe line...nothing like a good old fashion hp war!!!!

 

The new GTS is supposed to have more power, probably in the region of 550hp and 550 torque...that along with better aerodynamics and possibly stiffer chassis (as a result of the roof) might even things up between the C6 Z06 and the SRT-10...we will just have to wait and see.

 

this is the comparo im interested in. z06 vs viper i cant decide which i like more. the z06 is less $ but more common vs relatively exotic viper. leave the 430 comparos to the gallardo or tt.

 

I heard a few rumors that the Viper srt-10 coupe will not have a change in HP. I heard this on their forums and i read it last night in the magazine.

If it is true, who knows. We will see at the auto show. But either way, the new C6 Z is going to beat an SRT-10 Viper and maybe even the new Viper (But i doubt that-if they up the HP)

 

I sure hope Viper boosts its hp to answer the challenge of the Z06. People haven't been buying Vipers because they are slower than the Vette.

 

The people that buy these for the most part buy them because of the Qt and 0-60 times so I don't see how the Viper cannot up the ante. I'ts going to need another 100hp just to keep up with the Z06. You can't ask for 30 grand over the price of the Vette and not be alot faster in my humble opinion.

 

From Z06vette.com.

"OK folks I offered you with some brain teasers on the C6 Z06 a couple of weeks ago and now I will tell you the facts.

1) The Yellow pictures of the Z06 are the real thing.
2) It will have a 7.0 427 CI 500 HP and 475 ft. lbs. of tq.
3) It will have an all aluminum frame with a magnesium eng. cradle.
4) It will be a fast back non removable top.
5) It will have Carbon Fiber body fenders, hood and deck lid.
6) It will come in Victory Red, Black, Silver, Lemans Blue, DSOM and Yellow.
7) It will have 3 different int. colors.
8) It will have 2 different equipment grps. much like the Convertible.
9) It will have a dry sump oil sys.
10) It will have run flat tires.
11) It will be offered in a 6spd. only."

Was hoping for 500 TQ, but oh well, 475 will do.

If it comes in at worse case scenario, it will have:

3130/500= 6.26 lb/hp

vs.

3380/500= 6.76 lb/hp

So even taking worse case scenario into consideration, the vet still has the Viper beat, but not by much. And if it comes in at best case scenario, 2900 lbs, then it will have 5.8 lb/hp. Then the Viper will stand NO chance at all! But, i dont think GM can pull off the 2900 lbs. I am sticking to 3130 lbs just like the stats stated with the embargoed pics.

So in conclusion, yes, the Viper will have to up the ante if they want to stay king of the hill (In regards to the American cars)

 

I've heard the Viper Coupe having 600hp, and nothing less. But rumors are rumors.

 

I'm mean at this rate, in 4 or 5 years we'll all be driving 1000+ hp monsters capable of 0-60 in under 2 sec! I can't believe some of these numbers, it's mind-boggling, and the rate of change is very, very fast.

Gary

 

Everybody is off on what this thing is going to weigh. Wait 'til it arrives, then you'll see.

 

if manufacturers can make 600 hp so easily why arent the economy cars getting 60 mpg. some govt type is going to notice this and our fun is going to end same as in 1970's.

 

we have all tasted blood and there is no turning back...even ferrari has uped their hp, then lambo will up the murci+gallardo etc... everybody is going lighter and stronger (well mostly stronger).

 

Is that 500 hp wheel or crankshaft hp?

 

Huh? Stock to stock no vette has ever been faster than the comparable viper. People haven't been buying the SRT10 because it's looks are not up to that of the GTS.

The new coupe will have between 550-600 hp tq. The C6 Z06 will have it's 15 minutes of fame then the new Viper coupe will declare another hp jihad against the Vette. Within a year of the new Vipers release the C6 Z06 will slip into the back ground. The new Viper will continue to destroy the Z06 as it does now.

I have raced many Z06's and they just aren't that fast. I'd get an s/c cobra with 2-3K in mods if I wanted something fast and felt the need to see myself coming and going.

 

15 minute of fame? More like 1 or 2 years of fame..

The Viper coupe will have no change in HP for the first year-atleast that is what i have read in mags and forums.

 

Other than not specifying, C6 Z06, I can't understand how my post would lead anybody to think that I implied the Z06 was faster than the Viper. As I said, "People haven't been buying Vipers because they are slower than the Vette."

 

At a price under 50k, the Z06 wins against just about anything. The Viper may, sooner or later, make more power, so what, it's 30k more money. Corvette is the best bang for the buck, given those numbers. The numbers are almost the same as the F430!!!! At 1/3 the price.

Art

 

It is supposed to stay the same but the next generation car is rumored to have 650HP.

 

So we will have 1 yr of fame..lol

 

Not only will the z06 be faster (depending on how Dodge responses), but it'll be the better car, value, and overall package. The only real plus for the Viper is the higher status and the fact that you don't see them everyday of the week. Other than that, Z06 should be the better of the two for a good bit less $$.

 

I think the Corvette is going to kick the vipers ass. in sales and performance.

The new viper looks cool and so does the corvette. The Viper is going to have 100 hp more but it costs way more. The Corvettes handling is better, its lighter, cheaper, and almost as fast. The viper looks cool, handles OK, its interior is small, Its faster than the Vette and way more expensive.

Overall i'd take the Corvette.

 

For my money, I'd buy the Vette, but I still can't see DM allowing the Viper to be slower than the Z06. It doesn't make sense.

 

I just need to point a few things out. First off it has taken Chevy about 12 years to catch up to the Viper's hp and numbers. The Viper has always been faster in 0-60, 1/4's, better lateral g's, etc. Even the Z06 was never faster than a Viper. Now you need to remember Dodge has upped the ante every few years, but enough can become enough. I could not see Dodge building a 600+ hp vehicle in 2000, there would be nothing else to compete with it. Now its 2004 and lots of supercars are in that horsepower range, and Chevy has finally reached the 500 mark and looking at more for the Z06. Dodge knows this, so if anyone thinks they are just going to give up b/c Chevy has FINALLY reached them, you need to learn a thing or two. From the way its looking, we'll be driving 1000+ horsepower cars by 2010. Sit back and watch what Dodge does. Chevy can't keep up.

 

You are correct Brandon. For 30K more Dodge must be faster. Sure people buy 355's for 70-90K and a 25K 03 Cobra would whip it's butt. However, the Viper does not hold the mistique that Ferrari does and it's cutomers, myself included, demand the higher hp and faster times to justify the extra money. I'm actually a fan of the Z06, but for the money an 03 S/C Cobra is a much better buy and cheaper to mod and repair.

 

i would rather have the viper since i like the looks better, and besides that its a convertible.

but as someone else said, these hp wars are getting ridiculous....the speed limits are still 55-75 and are heavily enforced, so how much non-track fun can you actually have....i think its getting stupid