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Will we soon need manufacturer permission to install a used electronic part on our fully owned cars?

Discussion in 'Technology' started by bitzman, May 21, 2023.

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  1. bitzman

    bitzman F1 Rookie
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    wallace wyss
    The Owners Right to Home Repair: industry wants it gone

    I betcha while you thought the age of computers and AI was going to make it easy for you to self diagnose your car and go buy used or aftermarket parts and install them. If you thought that, you're wrong.
    Instead it has become a cause of concern for farmers who have run up against a tractor maker who says in effect "You own that tractor, but you can't buy parts and install them yourself. You have to have our factory technician install them."
    While the farmer lobby fights this, I am worried about this spreading to passenger car owners. And the harm it will do to junkyard owners.
    The great thing about junkyards was , if the part you need is in the front and the identical car they have was hit in the back, you could buy the part you need, take it home and install it, but farmers are saying some tractor makers are requiring you to get permission from them to install it and use their technician to do it,
    even on a tractor that's been bought and paid for.
    I can see them making electronic parts where once you try to activate it, a message comes to you that says in effect "This part does not have permission to be on the vehicle we made. We won't activate it unless you order a visit by our technician."
    I don't know how much of junkyard's profits are for used electronic parts but I can see, once this extra profit strategy is followed by automakers, it will kill off the salvage mechanical and electronic parts market.
    And make current cars --which sometimes have as many as 50 computers--undesirable as used car owner owning cars out of warranty find out how much the automaker will charge for a part from them that they know damn well is 1/10th of the price in their local junkyard.
    I say it's a big grab of car owner's rights by the vehicle makers--the right for owners to fix their own cars.
    As cars get more electronic and replacement electronic parts can only be activated with permission from the vehicle maker somehow 40 year old Falcons and Mavericks and Novas will began to look good--no electronic parts other than the generator, alternator or distributor. If this trend spreads to cars, some 2025 cars with everything electronic will be in effect " owned" by the factory long long after you paid for it.
    I am not a mechanic, but is this already happening with cars?
     
  2. TheBigEasy

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    Think of BMW installing things like seat heaters on all cars, but then blocking access to them behind subscriptions. (They are already doing this)

    So if you “hack” your own car to enable it around their subscription, is that legal? Or if you pay a 3rd party to hack it for you?
     
  3. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Yesterdays news. The case was against John Deere farm equipment and they lost. A bunch of BS attention grabbing BS

    Perfect example of the Betteridge Law of Headlines link above.
     

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