488 Will you be change your 488 for the FL?

Zero chance. Essentially the same car and I take a 100k hit for it? nope. Ill either keep my 488 or sell it and buy something else. My next Ferrari will likely (possibly) be the replacement, but even there I need to see how it looks, performs etc. But for me personally, zero interest in the FL.

 

Nope- have an 812 on order and that's my grail car. Will keep the 488 and 458 too.

 

Since I did not take the Pista I began to spend the money I had allocated - so no new Ferrari for me in the short term, I may look at the V6 two years from now.

 

what socal and tickerhounds said

 

I can’t even keep track of what the FL means.

If it’s a v6 and turbo? God no. The 488 sounds poor enough already IMO.

 

Ok I’ll bite... what the hells an FL and why is it named that?

 

Just wait for tomorrow. Starting from tomorrow the "FL" (488 facelift) will get its own name, new section in F-chat beside 458 and 488, and surely some new threads to share opinions.

 

(slapping top of head). FL ..facelift.


duh

 

My understanding is that this is a whole new car, not just a facelift like the 458 to 488. We will have to see.

 

Impossible. The 488 came out in late 2015 as a MY2016 car. That would mean the 488 only got 3 years of production. No way they'd kill a model that quickly. The FL will have 18-24 months of sales, then the true replacement will come.

 

I sure hope not as I haven't even taken delivery of my 488 yet LOL. Don't see the point in the FL personally, if it's such a short run before the real hybrid full monty replacement arrives as alleged

I might be interested in the actual replacement after the FL. Even then don't have much interest in a hybrid unless it's something like the AMG project one without that price tag/exclusivity. 1.6L V6 turbo screaming to 11k redline with full-blown KERS system...shut up and take my money

 

If you haven't taken delivery of a 488 yet, I would cancel it and wait for the FL. You'll end up with a Pista-like engine, improved interior, a one year newer car, and likely marginal price increase but with nearly 60 more hp.

 

I'm happy with my choice, but understand your rationale. My rationale has nothing to do with HP or depreciation/value retention, but the fact that I loved the 458 design and just didn't have the means at the time to spec one/own one when they were in production.

View the 488 as a "458.2" of sorts and actually love the 488 design. I like what Flavio did to the 488 based on Pininfarina's masterpiece in the 458. If the FL deviates from Pininfarina's headlights and single taillight design, the look of the car, no interest. Also, I don't want to fight or deal with the hassle for a "FL allocation" for a car that when it arrives will already have its hybrid replacement breathing down its neck (even though this is always the case with cars)

Channeling my inner Phil Bachman to get one of the last 488s with hopefully all the kinks straightened out by now

 

Sam. IMO you’ve made a great decision. The 488 is an engineering masterpiece accentuated by its stunning beauty. I went from a 2013 458 to a 2018 488 and have zero regrets. Every second I lay my eyes on the car is an OMG moment. And driving it is thrilling beyond belief. Cheers!

 

Thanks Joe appreciate it, hope to be in similar shoes enjoying my 488 this summer! I even went by Ferrari Newport Beach and a couple other places today to just see the 488 in the flesh again, love noticing all the little details around the car the more I pay attention (lol). Enjoy yours in great health

No one is going to feel bad for any 458 owner, 488 owner, or 488 FL owner. And I am sure all 3 are/will be amazing Italian machines in their own right. A very privileged position to be in if you are contemplating or own any of the 3

 

This is bad advice.

Waiting for the FL means at least 1.5 years before taking delivery and actually driving the damn car, assuming you can even be one of the first to get a specc'able allocation.

Not saying this is going to Sam, but who knows what could happen in 1.5 years. You could die tomorrow.

 

Looks like it's going to be a "new member" as per the instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BuYRVRFhP2m/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

 

1.5 years? Pista was unveiled in Geneva last year with first deliveries before the end of that same year. Expect deliveries of the FL to be around September or October as they've already tooled the assembly line.

Regarding OP, I have zero desire to get hosed on a car that will be completely overhauled 1.5 years after taking delivery.

If it has the Pista engine, that really takes away from the exclusivity of the Pista and has never been done before by Ferrari.

 

Time to add a new name to 458/488 section - F8

 

I skipped the 488 and bought a Lusso instead.....the F8 interests me enough style wise to trade my GT3RS for it in a few years time.....

 

Unless they shorten the life of the Pista. Perhaps one of the reasons the Pista is so expensive is because they knew it would be a shorter than usual build cycle and needed to recover their investment over fewer cars? Their potential strategy in this regard should become more clear once the engine details and pricing of the F8 is announced.

I personally can envision a scenario where the Pista coupes stop once the F8 coupe production starts. Pista Spider will continue until the F8 Spider starts. That should roughly takes us until the end of this year?

 

But again why would they left money on the table by stopping producing Pista if demand is there?
If the F8 has to take the market segment of the 488 GTB, it has to be similarly priced; so there will be less profit on the F8 than on the Pista (although the Pista is more expensive to produce).
The Pista and F8 are actually two versions of the very same car (slightly different engines, different bumpers and sills but same body), they are certainly easy to manufacture simultaneously.
Regarding the spider, I suspect (like on the regular 488) the F8 spider could be introduced very soon, specially considering the short expected lifespan of the F8; I think the Pista Spider had its production delayed just for maketing reasons.

 

I am hoping they do bring out the spider fairly quickly. Seems to me that the 488 Spider showed up in the summer of 2016 which was late in the first year of production. If I could place an order for a F8 Spider in the fall for delivery next May then I would probably do that.