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  1. LVP488

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    Maybe they hope that in the short term the F1 organisers will be so desperate to get contenders that they will heavily subsidize even the teams making no effort to be competitive.
     
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  3. Flavio_C

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    You know, your comment made me come with a supposition: perhaps Liberty Media have guaranteed future revenues to Dorilton?
     
  4. william

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    I don't think so; the FIA and Liberty have just pushed the bar higher to $100millions entry fee just to get into F1 circles.

    They have their 10 teams already, and if they were "so desperate to get contenders", they would have reduced that fee or waived it altogether.

    But you may be right in a few years time, if, as suspected, several constructors leave F1 in one go.

    For now, both FIA and Liberty make hay while the sun shines.
     
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    I think Perez will link up with Hulk at Haas. I hope Steiner isn't stupid like the previous time, and got two donkeys to race Haas. Perez and Hulk are the real deal here.
     
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  8. Igor Ound

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    Hulk to Red bull, Perez with Shumi jr at haas imo
     
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    Not sure Steiner has the brains to do that, and not sure Haas has the brains to dump Steiner.
     
  10. Remy Zero

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    Hulk to Red Bull is really mouthwatering, IMO.
     
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    C'mon! The guy didn't do diddly squat all his career. Of course this year he is motivated because he is out of a seat. The guy is a journeyman at best.
     
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  13. william

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    Hulkenberg is very over-rated, IMO.

    Almost 200 GPs, and not one podium?
     
  14. william

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    Steiner is the best asset at Haas; he is the one who holds the team together with his F1 experience at Red Bull.
    Guenther Steiner built the Haas F1 team from scratch
    In fact, Gene Haas became involved in F1 thanks to him!
     
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    johnireland F1 Rookie
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    To paraphrase "Jerry McGuire" "show me the points." The only thing Steiner has built is a team of perpetual losers. At this point the cars are just rolling bus bench ads for Haas Tools.
     
  16. william

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    I know that Haas is one of the teams you would like to see eliminated from the grid, but consider this.
    Not all F1 teams are in the same category; Haas is in the second or 3rd tier on the grid.
    They started from scratch in 2015, on what could be called a shoestring budget compared to the top 3.
    Their business model is a novelty in F1: Haas outsources as much as possible, almost to become Ferrari B team.
    They never finished last in the WCC, being 5th in 2018, and have beaten teams far better financed or with more experience.
     
  17. Mitch Alsup

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    Haas started out mid-field and went backwards from there.
     
  18. william

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    True, but that's the story of some teams from time to time.

    Think Williams, McLaren, or dare I say Ferrari actually 6th.
     
  19. Remy Zero

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    Well, to be fair, he wasn't really in a prime car isn;t it? The fact he can come and score some point at the 'Ring without testing shows his desire.
     
  20. william

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    But give him a permanent seat and he will drive like taxi driver.
     
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