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Winkelhock's F1 debut

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    ...at the German GP, how fitting. He replaces Albers at Spyker.

    Seeing that name once again on the grid brings back sweet memories. I was watching his father in an AGS at the German GP almost 30 years ago.
     
  2. pacific11

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    Joachim was the reason behind my favorite BMW built.

    What is a BMW E34 M5 Winkelhock edition?

    In 1991, BMW asked two of its racing drivers to design their own ideal version of an E34 M5. One of the drivers was Joachim Winkelhock, known for his success on the racing circuit with the Schnitzer E30 M3. His ideal M5 was a lightweight edition, stripped of all but the most performance-oriented items. BMW M then offered the public a package of features based on this ideal M5.

    A total of 51 Winkelhock M5s were produced, all painted Jet Black (668) with contrasting lower body panels in Sterling Silver metallic (244) and including the following special equipment:
    -Smaller battery* (66 volt versus 85 volt)
    -Smaller gas tank* (80 liters)
    -Reduced sound deadening material*
    -Deletion of power rear windows, rear headrests, fog lights, headlight washers, vanity mirrors*
    -Wider 255/40ZR17 rear tires on 9x17 M System I alloy wheels
    -Suede-covered steering wheel, shift knob, shift boot, parking brake handle
    -Evolution front sport seats in M cloth with Anthracite leather bolsters
    -Red seat belts front and rear
    -Special leather service book pouch, key holder and gold pin
    *These changes reduced the curb weight of the Winkelhock M5 by 88 lbs. compared to the standard M5.

    In addition, the option list was reduced to the following:
    Rear spoiler, power sunroof, rear sunshade (manual), floor mats, radio, Shadowline trim, air conditioning (with 85-volt battery)
     
  3. bill365

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    Andreas,
    Who are you trying to fool? You're not 30 years old yet !!! :D
     
  4. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    When I'm trying to get out of bed in the morning, I wish you were right. Getting older sucks.
     
  5. bill365

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    Hey Old Pal, :D
    Wait until you get to be Skip's age (they won't let him into California anymore, because the Redwoods get jealous), then you'll have something to complain about. Hell, every morning, his blood has precipitated to a crystalline state, waiting for a large influx of de-ionized water, to get things flowing again. :)
     
  6. Remy Zero

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    tell me bout it. i woke up this morning only to realise August is around the corner. more than half of 2007 just gone like that.
     
  7. tifosi12

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    Winkelhock follows in his father's footsteps: Last in practice 1 over 4 seconds back.
     
  8. GrigioGuy

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    He's in a Spyker, for god's sake. Even the much hyped Lewis would be slow in that wagon.
     
  9. tifosi12

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    He is 0.8 behind his teammate. Oh wait, even the much hyped Massa is 0.8 behind his teammate. Nevermind. :)
     
  10. Gilles27

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    ATS?
     
  11. bill365

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    ATS was started in 1976, with the cars of the former Penske F1 team, bought by Hans Schmid of ATS Wheels. He also bought the remains of the March F1 team after they shut down their operations. They never enjoyed great success and eventually folded in 1985, when BMW stopped supplying engines to them. Manfred Winkelhock, Hans Stuck, Jan Lammers, Marc Surer, Keke Rosberg and others served as drivers.
     
  12. BMW.SauberF1Team

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    He wasn't asking what ATS was. Andreas said AGS whereas Jack was asking if he meant ATS. Joachim Winkelhock raced for AGS and is Markus' uncle. Markus' father, Manfred, raced for ATS.

    Edit: Wow, all three of you guys are from the Chicago area? LOL! You guys just moved that entire section over here, right? :)
     
  13. bill365

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    I see dat... tanks Al.

    Ya we all frum Chikawga.

    Yu no, we usta hav a guy in da city named Al, he was prity famus.

    Now, I'm leaving the office, I've had enough.
     
  14. Whisky

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    That's what I thought, too.

    And I thought it was Gunther Schmid, but I have not researched it (not that big of a deal).

    I think Salazar was his teammate at ATS when Piquet tried to drop-kick him in like 1982 (?) in Germany, seems like yesterday.
    It's on youtube.
     
  15. tifosi12

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    #15 tifosi12, Jul 21, 2007
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    Apparently I am getting old. Yes ATS of course, not AGS. AGS is what I drove...:)

    Not that it really made a difference, both were last of the grid, so Winkelhock Jr. in the Spyker fits right in.

    Here a shot of M. Winkelhock Sr. at Monaco in 84. It was nice to see M. Winkelhock Jr. at Nuerburgring in 07 again.
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