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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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  2. TwinOne

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    Mike, next time you test drive, can I come to! :D
     
  3. spike308

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    Friend in the car biz gets an occasional stray exotic to sell... he knows me well, knows the drool factor!
    I usually get a call "be in your driveway in 2 minutes..."
     
  4. tifosi12

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    So somebody already sold their brand new Scag again? Doesn't sound good for the car.
     
  5. absent

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    Nothing wrong with the car itself,612 is the easiest new Ferrari to obtain by "accidental" or first time Fcar buyers.
    Maybe the guy realized he was over his head or the car was not entirely what he expected?
     
  6. JohnnyS

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    What? I don't understand as I am a new person to Ferrari cars. My first one is afordable, but I don't know what you mean by the car is easiest to obtain by "accidental".

    Can you splain-it please?
     
  7. Townshend

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    My guess would be is that someone is looking for a V12 2+2 car and happens to stumble upon a 612.
     
  8. absent

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    In most cases you can just walk in to any Ferrari dealer and get a new one with a small discount or get a slightly used one with a huge discount.
    You don't have to be a "friend of a dealer" nor do you have to wait for years or pay a premium as is the case with 430s and 599s.
     
  9. tifosi12

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    I don't quite understand how anybody can dish out a quarter million "accidentally", but each to his own.

    And I can even less understand how somebody willingly is a first time buyer, therefore making the biggest write-off on the car and then dumps it a year later. That has got to be the craziest car buying strategy. I do know however another former Ferrari owner who did just that, but there was a fundamental flaw with the car that warranty wouldn't cover.
     
  10. smoney

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    12-29-06: Yellow Lambo Murcie lp640 spotted outside "Bamboo Room"(by Yorktown Mall) Friday night around 1:30am-parked 20 feet from the entrance of course,truely a beautiful exotic machine!!!!!!
     
  11. absent

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    With these crazy bonuses on Wall Street lately,lottery winners and some inheritance recipients ,it happens more often then you think.
    Add to it the whole new generation of "quick and easy" milionaires from Eastern Europe,who don't really have any concept of price or value and treat their money according to "easy come,easy go".
    These guys are increasingly polluting all areas,including North Shore.
     
  12. Chelle

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    yesterday morning I was at LFSC and saw a Blue 599 being delivered :)
    Chelle
     
  13. jjmalez

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    details please,

    does the car feel as big as it looks while driving? was it a six-speed or F1? (please comment on either) did you leave with a better feeling about the 612 than you had prior to driving it? if a M456 GT and a 612 were abvailable at similar prices, would you pick the 612 over the GT?

    thanks.

    joseph
     
  14. spike308

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    Does not feel that big, looks smaller in black than any other color. Hood is quite long. Easy to drive; if your passenger was blind, you could fool them into the fact that it was just another car... easy to get in and out of, very docile, but will respond appropriately if the accelerator is touched in anger. I'm not a fan of the 456, so I'd take a 612. Its fun to kick around town in, but for the $$$, not the car I'd pick (window sticker was 285K 1400 miles ago!)

    BTW, the owner (I have not met) reportedly has over 2-3mil in cars... CGT, 360, recently sold his '03 turbo 911 and AM Vanquish... the 612...
     
  15. Townshend

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    Bentley Conti GT parked outside of the Congress Plaza hotel at about 4:30 this morning. Also a Maserati QP parked by Crown Theaters on Friday at around 6ish..
     
  16. Michael B

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    #66 Michael B, Jan 1, 2007
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    Hey Mike Spike. I just built up a customers 612 to 620 HP. Six speed, black/black. He was bored with the stock power. He had a Maser Gran Sport, then a Aston DB9, then the 612. Likes it best. I have put some good drive time on it, and your right, you could fool anyone into thinking it was just another Mercedes or BMW. But it is BIG. Damn thing is HUGE. He just had me bolt on a set of 20 inch HRE's just to get the car to look smaller overall. Now I have a set of stock 19's he wants me to pedal for him.

    Anyhow, what were you doing? Road testing Continentals used 612?

    BTW... Here is my view from my last drive in this 612. You may recognize it:
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  17. absent

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    Nice!
    What did you do to it to get that kind of power?
     
  18. Michael B

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    Several big ticket items were needed. Notably: Massive changes to the engine management were programed in, successful work was done in the air intake system, and then we tested three exhaust systems in search of the right balance of power & sound set to the owners taste. That all worked out to approx a 14% gain over stock power.

    It's a real scooter.
     
  19. absent

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    What would be the cost if one wanted to repeat this excercise?
     
  20. Michael B

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    Assuming the exchange rate is still much the same for the parts (the exhaust is somewhat expensive) and the install goes as well as this one did... $10 - $12K - depending on the exact settings for the Engine Control Unit the customer op's for. Its about 3 days of install down time, but a lifetime of up time :)
     
  21. absent

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    That sounds very reasonable,especially after spending $11k on just ECU and more aggressive LSD from Kleemann for my SL65.
     
  22. Michael B

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    Kleemann, oh yes, you are hanging with the right crowd Mark. Good stuff.
     
  23. Townshend

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    How much did that bump up hp/torque on the SL?
     
  24. absent

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    HP from 534 to 591.(rwhp)
    Torque?Could not get a reading at Porsche Exchange...
     
  25. Townshend

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    Yellow 360 Modena heading northbound on 355 around 2pm this afternoon.
     

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