Winter Storage | FerrariChat

Winter Storage

Discussion in '348/355' started by DT-355, Oct 28, 2009.

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, Skimlinks, and others.

  1. DT-355

    DT-355 Karting

    Oct 14, 2007
    51
    Just a few questions about storing my 355 Spider for the winter. Gas tank, empty or full? Any additives? I still start it on dry days, warm it up and move it up & down my driveway, but that’s it. Do I need to do anything else? Thanks.
     
  2. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
    9,721
    Before putting the car to sleep:

    Fill the tank, add gas stabilizer, take it out for a long drive (~50 miles or about 1/4th of the tank) to get all the bearings hot enough to expell moisture, the oil to expell all its moisture, and the battery fully topped up, refill the gas tank, give the leather a treatment (hide food, leatherique, ...)

    Put car to sleep:

    Inflate tires to 40 PSI OR put on jack stands or both
    Disconnect the battery
    leave windows down 1/2" so interrior can breathe
    wax car but do not buff out
    cover car
    Put keys in safe place
    leave until you are going to run it all the way up to temperature

    Waking car back up:

    Uncover car
    Inflate tires to correct presure (down or up depending)
    Charge battery (the night before)
    Connect battery to car's electrical system
    start car--give added time (10 seconds) to pump the gas system up to pressure before engauging starter
    warm car up--allow idle relearn to happen
    Buff wax--while car is warming up (or the night before)
    Take car for 50 mile drive--get all the greases and fluids hot
    Then:: change oil, change brake fluid, change coolant, (optional) change tranny oil.

    And you are ready to go again.
     
    Sarc likes this.
  3. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Mitch, this is an excellent write-up, thanks for this. I've heard may different ways to store the car, but never one like this.
     
  4. flyguyskt

    flyguyskt Formula Junior

    Sep 22, 2009
    443
    South Dakota
    Full Name:
    sean
    why would you change the brake fluid or the coolant? ive never heard that before. they are not like oil where acidic breakdown can occur.
     
  5. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
    9,721
    I completely do the brake fluid several times a year--I also use the brakes to their full extent often (and repeatedly). Even in the summer in Arizona, brake fluid will consume water vapor from the air and become wet, degrading is boiling point, in just a few weeks.

    Changing the coolant prevents, over the longer term, corosion in the cooling system--there are enough different metals involved (copper, aluminum steel) that galvanic action is possible. the coolant comes with some level of protection, changing it every year is a lot less expensive than eating a radiator or worse.
     
  6. Earthboundmisfit

    Earthboundmisfit Formula Junior

    Aug 7, 2009
    886
    Ontario
    Full Name:
    Steve
    #6 Earthboundmisfit, Oct 29, 2009
    Last edited: Oct 29, 2009
    Two things I would disagree with are, one, do NOT start it to roll it up and down the driveway. Do not start it at all. You won't get it fully up to temperature, you'll do more harm than good. Second, don't put it on jack stands, unless you're also planning on removing the wheels. The suspension is NOT designed to hang in that position for extended periods.
     
  7. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Did you mean to say that the suspension "is NOT" designed to hang in that position for extended periods?
     
  8. Earthboundmisfit

    Earthboundmisfit Formula Junior

    Aug 7, 2009
    886
    Ontario
    Full Name:
    Steve
    Ooops, yes, thanks. Fixed now.
     
  9. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    My pleasure!! I knew what you meant...:)
     
  10. Street&Track

    Street&Track Formula Junior

    Nov 10, 2003
    662
    I would add that putting your Ferrari in a Car Capsule is an especially good idea. It seals the car from insects, rodents, and the garage cat can't jump up and walk/scratch your car.

    The air gets changed by volume few times per hour so it also keeps moisture at bay. You can also put a drying agent inside the capsule if humidity is a special problem in your climate.

    And finally, with your car in the garage for the next few months the bubble barrier keeps other thnings that are in the garage during that time from accidentally bumping into and denting or scratching your Ferrari.

    I live in a northern climate, so I put all my F-cars and vintage motorcycles up for the winter. I use Car and Bike Capsules from PDK for all of them. They really work well and it costs very little to run the fan for a month as it is using less than a 1 amp motor.

    They have an optional battery tender or you can use your own. I have been using them for 10 plus years and they have really saved my cars and bikes from little disasters.
     
  11. sdiamond

    sdiamond Formula Junior

    Mar 25, 2009
    304
    Kildeer
    Full Name:
    Steve
    I've also heard different things about winter hibernation. Mostly the same but leaving the battery connected and on a tender for the winter. On the 348 there is a disconnect switch otherwise it is a pain to access the cables to remove it. Would it create problems to leave it connected and on a charger for the winter? Should it naturally run down and then just charged back up before spring instead? It will be in a temp controlled storage for the season
     
  12. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Steve, I left mine all winter on a tender with no problems, in a non-heated garage.
     
  13. FBI

    FBI Formula Junior

    May 27, 2008
    446
    Calgary,Ab
    #13 FBI, Oct 31, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  14. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    Awesome Dino!
     
  15. f1karting

    f1karting Karting

    Jul 19, 2006
    235
    BC Canada
    Full Name:
    Jan H
    Discussion point: why not change the oil before storage, and run it thru the engine to to 'flush' contaminants and give everything a fresh coat of new oil??
     
  16. cjacob813

    cjacob813 Rookie

    Nov 19, 2006
    27
    Atlanta
    The only thing I question is leaving the wax on for that length of time. Wax will try out paint if left on for that amount of time, or so I've been told.
     
  17. blackcross

    blackcross Karting

    Jun 23, 2007
    100
    Brake fluid is hydroscopic and as a result absorbs moisture over time. The more moisture in the brake fluid, the likelier it is that fluid will boil causing you to loose brake pressure. Brake fluid is highly recommended to change every three years. For maximum performance change it every year. Also helps reduce corrosion.
     
  18. andrew911

    andrew911 F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Sep 8, 2003
    2,894
    Northern NJ
    +1000- don't start it at all unless you can drive it to full oil temp, which is likely not going to happen unless you don't care about getting salt on the car (for me avioding that is the whole reason for storing the car for the winter).

    Also, I would put the car on a battery tender and not unplug the battery. Leaving a car idling for 30 minutes in the spring is not a good way to warm up a car- starting a car for about 10-15 seconds, then driving it gently is the way to warm up a car.
     
  19. stevew

    stevew Formula 3

    Jun 9, 2002
    1,839
    uk
    Full Name:
    Steve
    #19 stevew, Oct 31, 2009
    Last edited by a moderator: Sep 7, 2017
  20. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

    Feb 6, 2009
    34,776
    Ontario, Canada
    Full Name:
    Mike
    That is great Steve, thanks for the pic. This is the first time I have seen or heard of this.
     
  21. striker27

    striker27 Karting

    Feb 22, 2008
    84
    canada
    Full Name:
    andy
    I drive the car into the garage and shut the door. Most nights in the summer it sits outside. I find that is all any car I own has needed for winter storage. I do throw some fuel stabilizer in if I remember to do so. I also charge the battery ever week for a few hours in the winter. I do not bother with tires or oil or brake fluid. I change the stuff fairly regularly so it should not matter. The tires stay on the ground in contact with the cold pavement.

    It is a car!!!
     
  22. FBI

    FBI Formula Junior

    May 27, 2008
    446
    Calgary,Ab
    Nice Bubble!! Is it designed by pininfarina..i like the way it flares at the bottom.:)

    Cheers!
     
  23. UConn Husky

    UConn Husky F1 Rookie

    Nov 11, 2006
    4,425
    CT
    Full Name:
    Jay
    It still seems to me better to start it sometimes over the winter to keep the bearings and belts moving and get a fresh coating of oil on all surfaces. Why would it not get up to temperature? I've let it idle in the driveway so the coolant is hot enough to trigger the fans.

    I agree it is much better to take it for a drive (which I often do in the winter when the roads are dry). But I'd worry much more about leaving the cam belts stretched in one position for 4 months as compared to letting it get warmed up idling.
     
  24. stuckinkuwait

    stuckinkuwait Formula Junior

    Jul 25, 2004
    630
    Northern New Jersey
    Full Name:
    Lenny S
    i also heard that you should cover the exhaust outlets so moisture doesnt get into the engine. Any truth to this?
     
  25. Labman

    Labman F1 Rookie
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 25, 2010
    3,801
    Long Island, NY
    Full Name:
    Steve
    I drive mine in the winter when the roads are dry and salt free. Can't go that long without driving it. When snow is on the ground for extended periods (like last year here in NY) I throw a couple of Goldenrods in it. The ones used for boats. One in the engine bay and the other inside the interior. Keeps moisture down to a minimum. Also I will add stabilizer to the fuel. I do not have a heated garage btw.
     

Share This Page