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World's Best DMV Experience

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by Sierramadre, Sep 4, 2012.

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  1. Sierramadre

    Sierramadre Rookie

    Apr 15, 2012
    28
    Michigan
    So, I was in the process of renewing my registration for my 1986 328 GTS in the great state of Michigan which would have resulted in a $740 charge this year. However, since my Ferrrari is now 26 years old, she qualifies for Historical Plates at a cost of $35....and they don't expire for 10 years...Life is good....
     
  2. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
    Honorary Owner

    Oct 23, 2002
    32,118
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    Nice!
     
  3. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

    May 17, 2006
    12,755
    Dallas, Tx.
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    James K. Woods
    Wow - $740 passenger car registration for a 26 year old car???

    The Texas registration for my 1986 Testarossa was only $63.00 -
     
  4. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 30, 2007
    99,785
    +1, that's a ridiculous registration fee. wonder what they base it on...
     
  5. WilD

    WilD Karting

    Jan 20, 2011
    99
    Metro Detroit
    Full Name:
    Matt
    Wow, I had never personally had such a high registration fee and I thought MI registration fees were based on vehicle weight, but I was dead wrong in this case. Apparantly: "License plate fees for 1984 and newer model year passenger vehicles and light trucks are calculated using a percentage of the manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) at the time the vehicle is first titled." That strikes me as an extremely unfair and inefficient system.
     
  6. DIGMAN52

    DIGMAN52 F1 Rookie
    Owner Rossa Subscribed

    Jan 30, 2004
    4,092
    Dallas Texas
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    Philip C
    It must not be value related in Texas, as the 1995 355 and 2005 Ford GT I share never cost more than $70-80 for the registration fee each year.

    They do hit you harder when you title a car.
     
  7. don_xvi

    don_xvi F1 Rookie

    Nov 1, 2003
    2,934
    Outside Detroit
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    Don the 16th
    It is indeed quite unfair as an old car, such as my '91 Mercedes costs over $100/yr to register. Which means I fear it won't serve a poor family for long after I donate it. Which is too bad, because it's a great little car with lots of good life left in it.

    On the other hand, registration for my 308? $32/yr. Which I think includes extra for the custom plate.
     
  8. Mitch Alsup

    Mitch Alsup F1 Veteran

    Nov 4, 2003
    9,724
    The year after I bought my F355, I got the renewal notice and saw that it was registered in Harris county (Houston). So I walked into the local (Austin) DMV and told him to change the address to where it got mailed. He had to push but a single button and then print it out. Saved me $150.
     
  9. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

    Jan 3, 2005
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    Warren
    More money for councilor's. What else.
     
  10. GuyIncognito

    GuyIncognito Nine Time F1 World Champ
    Silver Subscribed

    Jun 30, 2007
    99,785
    well, yeah.... ;)

    still that's a huge registration fee, 2x what I paid for my 911 in California.
     
  11. cheesey

    cheesey Formula 3

    Jun 23, 2011
    1,921
    it seems there is no uniform rate / system for vehicle tags, in some states there is a nominal tag fee and that's all, while in other states they manipulate a tax into the total registration fee before one can operate a vehicle. The tax is computed by various schemes. Some states have a maximum regardless what the value of the vehicle is, while others keep on collecting as a percentage of the value regardless of year model. Then there are states that charge an ad valorum tax on ones property ( cars etc ) , separate from what DMV revenue schemes may be in play. If one lives in the wrong state with a high value car they can have their pocket picked clean.
     
  12. ZINGARA 250GTL

    ZINGARA 250GTL F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jun 21, 2002
    17,499
    PA
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    Ken
    I feel much better about my $36 575 registration.
     
  13. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

    Apr 16, 2011
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    Paul
    What is it with all this registration bureaucracy? Are these fees just to pay for the clerks that stamp the forms? Even in free socialist Europe we don't have this. I've owned cars in four EU countries and there are no annual fees for registration. I thought the US was the land of small government!
     
  14. Anthony_Ferrari

    Anthony_Ferrari Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
    2,365
    Sheffield, UK
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    Anthony Currie
    What about the vehicle excise duty in the UK? My 1989 Toyota mr2 is £220! Our Q7 costs £475 per year, and the charge for a new car in the top band (highest co2 emissions) is £1,030 for the first year! Also of course in the US the fuel is about a third of the price that we pay in the UK.
     
  15. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    40,012
    Huntsville, AL., USA
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    Andrew

    I've got to side with Anthony here, Paul. It's pretty expensive for all the reasons he mentioned. Insurance-wise it's pricey too. I pay as much to insure one car over here as my parents do to insure four in the States.

    We're definitely not spared the fees here. :eek:

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  16. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

    Apr 16, 2011
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    Paul
    Bull. Vehicle Excise Duty in the UK was originally set up to pay for the roads. Of course these days, it all goes into the government pot. All the same, in the UK we have very very few tolls compared to the US and many EU countries. So far, the UK VED is a quid pro quo. In fact I pay more in French Autoroute fees each year than the VED, and that's with gas guzzling cars.

    This annual US registration fee seems very different.
     
  17. NeuroBeaker

    NeuroBeaker Advising Moderator
    Moderator

    Oct 1, 2008
    40,012
    Huntsville, AL., USA
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    Andrew
    I hope this isn't too P&R (someone stop me if it seems so):

    I would argue that the annual registration fee in the US is equivalent in almost every sense to the vehicle excise duty in the UK. You cannot use the vehicle on public roads in either country without paying it and there are exemptions for classic cars beyond a certain age (though in the UK this is pre-1973 rather than a set age all cars could eventually achieve).

    I think the only major difference is that the UK calculate it based upon the engine emissions assuming that more emissions equates to a larger engine displacement which will equate to a wealthier owner (given the petrol prices we endure), while in the US it is calculated from the value of the car. Ultimately, neither system reserves these funds exclusively for the upkeep of the roads and is essentially a wealth tax.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
  18. vaccarella

    vaccarella Formula 3

    Apr 16, 2011
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    Paul
    If so, terrible state of affairs in the land of the free. I much prefer the French system. Car check every two years, no annual "fee" and you only pay when you drive (taxes on fuel + plus the tolls on autoroutes). Moreover, the quality and upkeep of road surface there makes the UK's seem almost medieval.
     
  19. Jeff328

    Jeff328 Formula 3

    Sep 5, 2006
    2,293
    WI
    In Wisconsin if your car is 20 years old or older you can register it as a collector or hobby car and pay 3x the annual registration one time and never have to pay again.

    So pay $225 one time and never pay again as long as you own the car.
     
  20. Kaivball

    Kaivball Three Time F1 World Champ
    Owner

    Jan 11, 2007
    35,997
    Kalifornia
    Land of the "free" not so free any more...

    Kai
     

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