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  1. Gatorrari

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  2. wax

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    Betcha that guy on the right knows.
     
  3. tritone

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    Detailed article in Cavallino last year.........don't remember the #.....
     
  4. Wolfgang

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    #4 Wolfgang, Jan 15, 2005
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    Whats up with NNO???????
    Unfaithful?????
    He ignores 2 Enzo`s in the background???
    He is realy serious looking to other Ferraris?
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  6. atlantaman

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    It was an aerodynamics test case
     
  7. gtofreak

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    Here's another shot of 2819 GT, note that there is NO Ferrari badge on the nose:
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  8. Papa G

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    Cavallino #135 has the full details.
     
  9. gtofreak

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    Here's a photo showing 2819 GT at Brands Hatch 1962. Note different openings in plexi cover over carbs and air intake between fog lights, compared to today's pictures.
     
  10. gtofreak

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    And HERE is the photo:
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  12. El Wayne

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  14. gtofreak

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    This photo was taken in the mid-1970s in England, also published in the FOC UK magazine.
    Back in 1962 the car didn't have the badge.
     
  15. 134282

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    ...And if it ever DOES have a badge, it won't be because anyone from Ferrari put it there... 2819 GT isn't recognized as a "real" Ferrari these days because of what Drogo did to it... For some people, the cars' history stops when it leaves the factory - which is unfortunate...

    The story behind 'La Camionette', which is the rough, French translation that gave it it's infamous name, the Breadvan, is a long and detailed one... Best read in the aforementioned Cavallino article... i would most likely screw up some of the details... It's one of the coolest Ferraris i know of and has been all over the world... It started life as a SWB... i was fortunate enough to get a ride in it, around the track, in New Orleans, in 2003... It was the second-loudest thing i've ever heard in my life... Those little plastic, sliding windows couldn't keep the screaming, bassy exhaust, emanating from the sidepipes, out of the tight, very bare cabin...

    The car looks big in pictures; HUGE, even... But, in fact, it's very small... Tiny... Truly a sight to behold...
     
  16. 134282

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    Wolfgang, i had already gotten plenty of pictures of 128798 and 134297 and was impatiently waiting for 2819 to show up... When it finally did, it had my undivided attention... :)
     
  17. Bertocchi

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    Monte and Merit Shallett finaly brought the car to Cavallino after much convincing by yours truly. It was accepted to be judged at the Concours and it was decided at the last minute that it would not be included in the judging because it did not have its' original bodywork! I was shocked and horrified as was Monte. I am glad to see by this forum that some people appreciate seeing the car, Bravo
     
  18. Napolis

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    That car is a piece of history.
    Best Jim
     
  19. 134282

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    Absolutely... The history in that car didn't stop when it left the factory, it had only just begun...
     
  20. Napolis

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    After thinking about it I think I understated it.
    That car is a F UCKING PIECE OF HISTORY.
     
  21. 134282

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    LOL, you can say that again...! :)
     
  22. SefacHotRodder

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    Exactly. I don't understand how Pebble Beach etc can require cars to be as they left the factory. The breadvan IS very important and to not allow it into certain events because it changed (for the better) is pathetic.
     
  23. tbakowsky

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    How could you possiabl even think to not allow such a machine into ANY event? That car is world famous and one of the most amazing machines around. Me thinks the Ferrari snobbery is more rampent then I thought.
     
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    Tom, that's just it, it's not snobbery, it's the rules... Originality, for some reason, is a big thing... Gerald did an article about this sort of thing in the Market Letter not too long ago... In it, one of the things he asked why people would lose points for not having original hose clamps but not lose points for not having the original battery...? If they're so big on originality, how come EVERYTHING doesn't have to be original...? Another thing Gerald pointed out is that, for instance, today's hose clamps (or fuel lines or oil lines) are of a lot better quality than those of 30 or 40 years ago... It makes total sense to put in modern-day fuel lines as opposed to seeking out old, period-correct, out-dated fuel lines... It's ridiculous...
     
  25. SefacHotRodder

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    AND the cars never get used. How often do you see the cars that are usually at Pebble Beach driving on the street or participating in vintage races? Ferraris are meant to be used. Most of the cars at Pebble are over restored, they were never that nice when they left the factory.
     

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