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Discussion in 'SF90 Stradale' started by tontondavid, Jun 27, 2024.

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  1. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula Junior

    Nov 26, 2013
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    100% transparent - bought every Ferrari offered since dealer opened a few years ago.
    812GTS SF90Spider Puro delivered waiting on Romapider 296GGTS SF90XX 12CilindriSpider
    Owned Ferrari's for decades - trying to receive the special editions. We all have an agenda :)
    With the other brands it's a much shorter and easier to get special editions.
    The VIP's and Challenge guys literally get their racing costs of 1M paid back if they choose to sell their special cars. I don't think that is the reason but it's possible.
    Ferrari is #1 at taking care of their customers, problem is many people don't know what it takes to be a client vs customer.
     
  2. LMP

    LMP Karting

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    Spot on !
     
  3. tontondavid

    tontondavid Rookie

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    What do you do for a living? Are you a drug dealer? :)
     
  4. gzachary

    gzachary Formula Junior
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    What I find amusing is the general “throw stones at the castle” phenomena, which always exist in any sphere. I have a friend who always like to point out not well-researched articles like the Bloomberg article and send them to me. And then every quarter keep asking me if used Pista prices are finally going to go down. He says “why are they at this plateau. It makes no sense.” Then he talks about how much money he has lost on his McLarens. And then will try to find an article like the Bloomberg article.

    Then he will forward the Bloomberg article to me and say “how can you drive it and deal with the depreciation?”

    Then it’s an easy answer when I tell him “I just have the acceptance that I am depreciating as well. My time is disappearing. I am past the warranty period of 40 years.” And he switches the topic to McLaren in F1. Still trying to find stones to throw at the Ferrari castle.
     
  5. gzachary

    gzachary Formula Junior
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    once you realize that your orthopedic surgeon can fix your knee and shoulder suspension problems, you hope you don’t develop premature ball joint problems or need to replace the engine because of oil pump problems. Lol
     
  6. Lcawley

    Lcawley Karting

    Nov 16, 2011
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    That is our value equation though I still won’t sell, just feels good to know the value is there. My SF90 Spider is at the port and should arrive soon at the dealer. SF90XX spider TM spec approved, and lots of other very special things in process. Next week Ferrari Challenge Watkins Glen.


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  7. Thecadster

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    Wow…9 seasons and a 15% podium finish rate! Great job!
     
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  8. gzachary

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    I had a year in Ferrari Challenge with Lance racing. Better than me for sure. Importantly, a classy driver who shows skill and safety and no unnecessary aggression on the track.
     
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  9. Lcawley

    Lcawley Karting

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    Thanks for your kind statement.


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  10. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula Junior

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    Anything that will pay me what my time is worth.
     
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  11. ForeverNA

    ForeverNA Formula 3
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    Yup, same here. The annoying part is I know he is just petty but I still want to tell him stop, but then that may create more problems later. Why? Because he is that petty
     
  12. Jo Sta7

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    So as much as I’d like you to be right (I’m on your side) I fear with the quest for profitability the SF90 replacement will not be limited by anything but time.
     
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  13. Caeruleus11

    Caeruleus11 F1 World Champ
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    What do they say about haters.

    After some time with the 296 and SF90 I think these are spectacular!

    My opinion is the market place will eventually come around, the secondary market is usually more of an enthusiast mindset, and these hybrid cars have some new elements, such as the UI and the hybrid. Some have a hang up on the hybrid thing, but once you realize there are substantial upsides to the Ferrari setup, I think more people will come around. It’s really so well done. Just think of it as a power enhancer which also allows you to leave your neighborhood in silence if thats what you want. It also allows the power delivery to hit in a way that ICE alone simply cannot.

    The reality on the UI is it’s a little quirky, but, the prior setup was also quirky. I wish they found a way to keep a physical tach and also even more for the physical start button, but, aside from those things, the new interface is entirely usable, once you spend a little time with it.

    My only objective complaints with the SF90 are storage space- we like to take trips in our cars, so the front trunk is a little small. And the central armrest storage is not big enough to fit my iphone when I have the radar detector also plugged in (the plug is chunky). Thats it.

    Going from the SF90 to say my Pista or 458, I love those cars too, but they now feel a bit older. So I think the market will come around, these cars are excellent.


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  14. Fortis

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    In relation to the UI, I am DD’ing my Purosangue and I have gotten accustomed to it and it actually works very well, most physical buttons are behind the steering wheel and I really like that, so as much as I really hated it at the beginning I have started to like it once I have had more time with it, the only thing I hate is that I can not set the cruise control while the car is in sport.
     
  15. emmholla

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    Agreed. As a perspective buyer I hope I can grab one before everyone realizes how good it is and Jack the price back up. Haha.


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  16. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula Junior

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    #91 Cocoloco, Jul 9, 2024
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    Possibly - they built a new factory. which needs to be paid for, watch it go towards full electric.
    Review of V8's in time - 355 Stradale Scuderia Pista (turbo) all have come back in that order. Those editions were high production at that time. We willl see where SF90 fits in -
    Every seller I know who sold one of those special and production V8's has sellers remorse.
    SF90 whatever ir may be is years away and those who bought new SF90 / retained will have the chance of the next SF90 and or LE.
    Whatever the cost - prefer being in line vs outside the doors of a dealership.
     
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  17. cesman

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    +1 on everything - couldn’t agree more. I also have a Pista among others and the SF90AF is from another planet. I have found a way to work wonders with soft luggage - but totally agree with your sentiments.


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  18. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula Junior

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    Agree. Seen a few (Shmee) guys adding a suction cup luggage compartment on the roof. Back in the older days lots of guys installed luggage racks and strapped the bags and took off. I remember skiing in Tahoe a guy had chains on his F40 with a ski rack.
     
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  19. Forza Scuderia

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    All cars you mentioned are VS and SF90 is not.
     
  20. ForeverNA

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    And the key now is to keep it in order to get the next one.
     
  21. Cocoloco

    Cocoloco Formula Junior

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    #96 Cocoloco, Jul 10, 2024
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    What's a VS -
    There were a lot of Stradale Scuds Pitsa's and only 499 of 16M which I own - the SF90 Spider AF is likely a low number.
    You are so worried about others peoples money - why do so many people here concern themselves with what others do.
    Look - this is supposed to be fun, didn't buy a Ferrari to debate value - simply saying rear engine V8's in a special form do well over time - worrisome trend poor customer service depreciation - we all got the memo ... it's enough bs
     
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  22. LMP

    LMP Karting

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    The SF90 Spider AF is likely to be low in number and feel it will reward those who kept it long term! I plan to keep mine and add what follows next :cool: the truth is my wife has claimed the car for her self !
     
  23. ForeverNA

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    Yes, sf90 definitely is very easy to drive for the ladies. The ladies at home also claimed it already when it arrives.
     
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  24. LMP

    LMP Karting

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    lol you will be lucky to get some seat time :)
     
  25. RumorDude

    RumorDude Formula Junior

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    i feel better now knowing im not the only one with these types of problems!
     

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