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Would £65k find a good example of a Manual 360?

Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by Wayne_Manchester, Aug 14, 2018.

  1. Wayne_Manchester

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    Hi, I’m new to the forum and looking for advice regarding my budget of £65k.

    My other cars are autos so I’m mostly thinking a manual 360 would be most apt for me; preferably a coupe. Is it possible do you think, to find a car with good history at such a price?

    I’m not being picky about colour etc, as I haven’t seen a 360 I disliked yet, but any advice is appreciated, although I’m sure this is quite a common sort of thread
     
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    Still looks possible.
     
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    You're more likely to find an F1 within your budget if only because manuals are in a bit of bubble currently (and therefore less likely to hold their value as well) - as noted above PH classified are a good place to start looking (and appear to contain several sub 65 RHD manual) although a UK forum such as Club Scuderia may also help
     
  6. daytona355

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    Go F1...... you’ve missed the bubble for manual cars anyway, so the only way is down for a relatively mass produced car like 360 when you’ve overpaid for a manual box. The F1 is easily maintained and reliable, and the performance advantage for any fast driver is worth it every time.

    It’s so strange to be looking at £65k for 360 today, when I was buying and trading them at £30-35k just five years ago! You could get a very nice 430 for £65k back then! How times have changed
     
  7. MalcQV

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    I think that's realistic. I have a manual 360 with massive history, red, CF sports seats, wing badges (formed wings) and even a roll bar (quite a rare option I think). I think to buy from a specialist probably £70k+ but if I sold it private (which I'm not) then £65k is a good figure. Mine has 40k on but if you wanted lower miles you may well pay more.
     
  8. MaseratiMike

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    Why not go for a Testarossa for that kind of budget?
     
  9. A348W

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    £65k for a tesarossa, where you seeing those...that would be a bargain.
     
  10. Bluebottle

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    Or more likely a liability.
     
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  11. MaseratiMike

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    I started out the same as you last year searching for a Ferrari 360 RHD, but then started looking at the Testarossa from an era where you can work on them without a computer.... I just recently bought mine for £70k, LHD Euro original though and not RHD. Had a full service, cambelts, new tyres and various other items sorted which were picked up from the PPI. Full history too.

    They are out there, just need to look hard as it took me 12months to find the right one. A few low priced ones are showing up in Europe and USA. My one I would call a bargain.
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  12. MaseratiMike

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    There's a lot of uncared examples and a lot of doom n gloom on this forum about guaranteed diff failure etc. Getting a sorted example with maintenance history, I would take over any 360. Personal preference though
     
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    I, too, would take a TR over a 360. I would be very circumspect, however, about taking on a RHD TR that someone was prepared to sell for £65K.

    I think you have bagged yourself a bargain, but do bear in mind that it is LHD and you paid £5K over the OP's budget. My guess is that a decent right hooker would be hard to find under £100K, though I have not done the research and stand to be corrected. I also suspect that there are less potential pitfalls with a 360 than a TR.
     
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    Nice Mike. (Saw your thread on scuderia forum) Left hooker I guess is a different price bracket to a rhd.

    I have the baby, 348, and like you like the ability to do a lot of my own work. I'm not that keen in having to plug a car into a laptop to figure out what's wrong, tell it I've changed the spark plugs etc etc. (Glad to hear you had a good PPI; mine wasn't!)

    Now looking for an excuse to go for a drive today!!
     
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    I fully agree getting a RHD red head for less than £100k would get me worried about what is potentially wrong... I would have liked a RHD but couldn't justify the premium over a LHD...

    Enjoy your 348 and drive out today

    Wayne - best of luck in your search for the right car for you, definitely always get a decent PPI whatever you buy. Keep us all posted
     
  16. Wayne_Manchester

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    Thanks for all the replies. I didn’t have any email notifications so apologies for the delayed response.

    I’ve now started to look more towards an F1. I would prefer a manual just for the gated shifter, but the F1 models are much more numerous.

    My only issue is finding a good car. Checking MOT advisories on these has been my first step and although I absolutely never would expect to find a perfect car, I am trying to find one with “reasonable” advisories more than anything that could present a larger problem in 12 months time of that makes sense.

    My current car is a PDK 981 Boxster S so I guess going back to 1990s automatic shifters will be a shock, but hopefully also part of the charm.
     
  17. daytona355

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    The F1 box is in no way an automatic. It is a robotised manual gearbox, with computer driven clutch system. It’s a little slower than DSG, but it certainly isn’t some limp waisted slush matic. Learn to use it properly and it’s much faster than a true manual
     
  18. Wayne_Manchester

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    That’s good to know. I heard it’s not something you flat-shift with?
     
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    In my opinion, I think of it as a perfectly timed twitch of the foot! The slightest let off of power as you flick the paddle.... when you get it right and can repeat it shift by shift, you will feel like schumi I promise you
     
  20. Wayne_Manchester

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    I’ve had cars like that in the past, so no issue with the “twitch” :)

    I just need to get out there and try one, or 10.
     
  21. daytona355

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    There are good ones and bad ones, just like any other car. Whatever you chose, get it thoroughly checked, make sure the Clutch life is good, and enjoy it. 360 is way more special than a Porsche or anything else other than another ferrari. 430 was a big step up though, so don’t drive one unless you have funds to buy it, as once you have, buying the 360 will be like marrying the second best sister.... you will end up in trouble one day caught playing with the prettier one!
     
  22. MalcQV

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    Next model probably does. I had an F355 before my 360. My 360 is miles ahead of my old F355 regarding the drive. Completely better in every way. There is I'm sure many reasons why that is the case and times when it is not the case.
    I would have preferred and F1 over a manual however my garage is so tiny and a slope into it means it might be a bit tricky getting an F1 car in safely. It;s hard enough with my manual where I have full control over the clutch.
    Interestingly enough I'm buying a Mercedes CLA with DCT and I'm wondering how much better it is than the old sequential F1's. To drive there seems a little more control so perhaps a 458 may well be a future option.
     
  23. daytona355

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    I had a CLA 45AMG, the DCT (noted as an MCT I think my Mercedes) is pretty good, not a patch on the 458 of course, but it’s still a good box. To be honest, with the CLA, and the C63 before it, putting the box in its most aggressive, you can get away with touching the paddles less and less as the cars are not as capable through the twisty stuff as a Ferrari, so I always seem to want to be less involved when driving them, whereas in the 458, I can honestly say I never ever ever pressed the auto button, the car makes you want to drive it on the paddles with total control. I think it’s becuase whenever I drove the ferrari, I was always going at full speed, as fast as I could go, on any stretch of road that was available. In the Mercedes, although I still drove them quickly anywhere (unless there’s a cop on the road in sight, a speed limit is merely a quaint suggestion for the normal people on their way to work) they are just that much heavier, and that much slower, that the gearbox can cope with most of the changes you would want to make, so the paddles are 20% of the story, and not the whole one
     
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    I'm sure you're right. This is not an AMG though I think it has that in the name because it's a marketing ploy :D
    My main concern was control in and out of my garage. The car bought came up and I wanted it. I'm not the least bit disappointed with it being manual. In fact by the end of this year my Alfa will have gone and it will be replaced with another MB. I will only have one manual and it will be my 360.
     
  25. daytona355

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    The CLA AMG is apparently breathed on by AMG, and in wet weather, can actually walk all over the C63 rear drive cars due to its part time four wheel drive. I think AMG in the 45 case is a bit more than a ‘bodykit’ kind of name addition that you get with almost every Mercedes these days. I do love the styling kits though, the wheels with the AMG kits always make the cars look like they have a more aggressive and purposeful stance

    The automated box will be fine getting in and out of your garage, like any automatic would be really, it’s just getting used to a little left foot braking to make sure you measure out the speed of reversing (I too have a garage up a steepish slope, although it’s pretty big so you don’t have to be quite so careful.....that’s said, when you reverse a bloody big Bentley into a space alongside a 458, with clearance on either car to the wall at its side 2 inches max to give you access space between, that can focus the mind! Throw into the mix the fact you have a 90degree turn to get into the garage due to the design of the drive that sweeps around a tree!)
     
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