Would appreciate insight on 812 vs others.

I ordered my 812 , should receive it late 2019, I am driving an FF and a 488... I hv back problems too... swimming helped me a lot ... 488 is fine even in slippery road... FF is great in slippery road since it's a AWD till the 4th gear

Order an 812 it will be a great super exotic GT, and get an FF or a GTC to enjoy till u get your 812.... FF ride is very good even w back problems .... great car


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It was a great couple of days (shame about the rain). Definitely recommend booking the Corso Pilota through your dealer - nice way to get used to the 812. Two days on track with racing drivers to upgrade your skill levels. Should get you revved up for the 812 experience while you wait for yours. I posted a few (rainy) photos of the two days at Fiorano in the 812 thread if you wanna take a look. This link should take you there if interested: https://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/posts/145663088/

 

My advice is get an F12 or FF first. Ferrari is different from everyone else, even Lamborghini, McLaren and Porsche. I suggest get a nice pre owned Ferrari- it could also be a 458- and see what you think. Going around corners is about the level of grip at a given tire not really the drive system. The AWD will help you if you want to pull away from a stop and traction is somewhat limited. I'd been driving RWD only cars for a very long time before I got my first AWD car (helps with hills and snow where I live). Take your time to learn the car. And I suggest apply to the Ferrari Corso Pilota. You will be astonished at what these cars are capable of. Make sure to keep a deposit for the 812. If you are loving this, then go for the 812. If you decide its not for you then you can sell and not get too beat up on the resale (458 is probably your best bet for holding value right now). I hope you really like the Ferrari experience and if you get your first Ferrari you will see you are welcomed to the family!

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Ferrari dealers aren’t too keen to give test drives. Especially if you are a stranger

But if you spend time with a dealer they may let you drive a used Ferrari .

Since you want an 812, a test drive will be pretty difficult. Long waiting list and very few used if any. New cars which customers are waiting to take delivery on aren’t just allowed to be driven by people other than the owner.

With Lamborghini it’s much easier to get a test drive. Why because there are plenty of used and even brand new cars in search of a home.

At least that’s been my experience with the authorized dealers of both Marques in my city, Los Angeles

 

As has been mentioned I do not think traction is such a concern, Ferrari improves their mastering of RWD faster than they increase the power (my 599 was far easier than my 575 in spite of having more than 100 hp more...)

How does it come you cannot drive a 812, doesn't your dealer have a demo car?
Even on a very short test drive you would realise how impressive the 812 is

 

Here’s an idea.
Ferrari hosts driving courses where you can drive the current cars in 8 and 12 cylinders.
I think there is a course in Canada.
book a course with your dealer. Perhaps during the rainy season to get an idea of how a Ferrari would meet your wet and slippery weather concerns

 

The only test I would like to see is 812 vs 720s.

 

Depends on what kind of person you are is what I would ask first.
Are you a youtuber, under 25 years old or succesfull in the pron industry; get an Aventador.
If not, go with Ferrari.

In all seriuousness, Aventadors are typically owned by people that do not buy these cars for their driving pleasure.
If you are dead set on 4wd and an exotic, buy a Lambo Performante. It has good seating position, 4wd and handles well.
The Aventador is a useless drivers car.

 

Even though I agree that an 812 is the better driver's car, the new Aventador S is vastly improved and a worthy supercar.

 

Agreed, but seating position is awkward on an Aventador (S).
One does get the notion that the car wasn't properly designed as a 'drivers' car, much like the F12/812 is.

 

Sorry, I can only repeat my first post, if you have a bad back you cannot even consider an Aventador. It could be twice as fast, twice as good looking, twice an 812 in every department, but if it kills your back, as it does, you will never experience those sensations. Any talk about performance is irrelevant IMHO.

It is renowned as a business maker for osteopaths.

 

What cars do you currently have?

 

Have never driven a Lamborghini. But every review I read in Evo magazine, Top Gear magazine and another other magazine are all universally united in their opinion on the seats in Lamborghinis - they are back breakers! Entirely unsuited to any human shape. There must be something in that if every journalist complains. My wife is notorious for not finding any car seat comfortable - my Aston kills her back after a long drive (I am ok with the Aston - no major discomfort); Range Rover she can’t spend more than 10 mins in before back ache sets in (I must confess to finding it an odd shaped seat too). Every Ferrari I have driven (all of which have been fitted the carbon sports seats) however are remarkably comfortable, inducing zero aches or pains. Drove tdf for 6 hours non-stop (save for a few short fuel stops) from South France to Tuscany in the summer and got out the other end of the journey with zero aches or pains. No butt numbing or back aches at all. Best seats ever in my view. Same experience on return trip. My wife too had zero complaints about the tdf seats, despite her being the most condemning of all car seats to date. Have not driven an F car with standard seats - but curious about the all way adjustable seat on 812. The cars i drove on the corso pilota only had carbon sports seats - same with the 488. Great seats. Wouldnt be brave enough to spec electric seats in 812 despite mu curiosity in case wife doesn’t like them - but know she loves the carbon sports seats so would stick with those. Just wish could convince Ferrari to fit the race seat lifter to both driver and passenger seat. They clearly have the equipment to do both sides, as you can get seat lifter on both left and right hand drive cars, but wont let you spec passenger seat with seat lifter.

 

I am similarly puzzled on why they don't offer the lifter for the passenger seat. At first I thought maybe it has to do with the airbag(s)? But the driver seat has just as much variability, perhaps more with the airbag itself moving due to driver steering wheel location preference. Have you noticed the passenger seat doesn't offer as much support? The driver's seat is more of a bucket.

 

Hi Roman, welcome bud! 812 would be my choice but I have been in an Aventador and what an experience, very theatrical and loud! Anyhow if you are good with the wait for the 812 then do it, I will tell you that things change a lot at Ferrari and it make come sooner (or longer). On a side note what I heard is that they have upwards of 60+ deposits and considering they will get about 10-12 cars a year (?) do the math. Someone said FF, there is a 2016 Nero FF that is at their Avenue road showroom and I would pick that up in a heartbeat if I didn't have the Lusso! Take care.