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Wow, what a crosswind landing video! 757

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  1. jcurry

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    I believe 40kt x-wind component is the max for 757. You can see the (significant) sideways tire flex at touchdown.
     
  2. INRange

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    I'm not sure you can teach a computer to do that.....very impressive.
     
  3. jcurry

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    I saw a reference that stated the max x-wing component for autoland was about 75% of max, or 30 kts.
     
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  4. 512pilot

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    Max crosswind component for a 757 is somewhere between 30 to 35 knots. This idiot obviously exceeded that and put everybody's life in jeopardy on board that airplane. Instead of the company applauding him they should have had him investigated by the FAA.

    ... just a Boeing 757 guy with about 4,000 hours in type and 12 years as supervisor with the FAA talking here

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  5. Nate2046

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    According to Boeing, crosswind guidelines are not considered limitations. Also, they’re based solely on steady state winds not gusts. I don’t see any reference to the exact crosswind component so I’m not entirely sure what you’d be investigating?
     
  6. Dicecal

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    All the 757/767s I’ve flown have a recommended cross wind limit of 40kts, looks like the pilot did a nice job landing the jet. However if he did screw up, I doubt the FAA would investigate since he landed in England. Lighten up Francis...
     
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  7. Innovativethinker

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    Someone in the cabin was probably saying “this is a bad idea”

    One of my offices used to be just north of LAX, watching the planes come in crab legged was always fascinating. That was 20 years ago, some looked like they were landing sideways
     
  8. Gatorrari

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    I was in a 767 that made a crosswind landing in PHL once, and I could see our runway out of my window until we were over the runway threshold. Even after we were firmly on the ground, the airplane weaved a bit on the runway until we slowed down.
     
  9. Bob Parks

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    I always preferred a big wheels in the front type of airplane because crosswind landings are much easier when you can lower the upwind wing and add a bit of crab and make a wheelie. Then keep the wing down and forward stick with rudder as needed and hold it until your out of runway. Piece of cake.
     
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  10. Ferrari 308 GTB

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    74 classic we could land with full crab on especially on a wet runway ,as per Boeing, however it seemed a bit brutal so always preferred the late decrab with a touch of aileron into wind,but don't over do it as you could possibly scrape the trailing edge of the flaps,resulting in tea and nooo biscuits with DFO:eek:
     
  11. Gatorrari

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    If I recall, on my flight, the pilot managed to keep the airplane pretty level throughout. We actually approached the runway at an angle - I could see it out my window until we were nearly over the threshold - and straightened the airplane out, relative to the runway, using left rudder just prior to contact. That helped keep the landing gear from being unduly stressed. It was a great job of piloting, IMO.
     
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    Always amazes me to see airliners land crabbed like that. Do you have to keep in the cross-wind corrections like you do with light aircraft after landing an airliner? Once our F-111s were down and the ground-roll spoilers were up, no further corrections except rudder to keep her straight were necessary. Wing loading over 100 probably helped that.
     
  13. Fave

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    A couple years ago, landing in Dubai on Etihad at night, I thought to myself that the turbulence wasn't bad enough on approach that seeing the runway out my window the pilot was just showing off. I expected a go around but at the last few seconds full rudder must have be given and I was glad to no longer see what only the pilots should be seeing.
     
  14. Bob Parks

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    Working on the 767 and 777 near the Landing Gear design group we could see them sweating blood most of the time to get the trucks and the outer oleo cylinder strong enough to take extreme cross wind landing loads. In fact, the entire system seemed to be attuned to turning side loads, X wind loads, and high drag loads. Just plain landings were a non problem.
     
  15. Tcar

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    Thank Bob,

    Can't imagine the lateral loads on the gear...

    I'm also wondering how the tires are mounted... ever had one come off the rim or lose pressure?
    I know they are very high pressure.

    I remember seeing videos of WW2 bombers (B-17?) that had electric motors that rotated the wheels before touchdown to extend tire life.
     
  16. Tcar

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    Maybe it was a Brit bomber... Wellington??? that had the main gear spin up... saw it somewhere.
     
  17. Bob Parks

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    I don't believe that it was a B-17. That wheel spin up thing was a non event. The weight and cost was unworkable and tires were a lot cheaper. I never saw a B-17 with anything other than a big wheel and tire. I have never heard of a tire peeling off the wheel, they were pretty tough.
     

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