WTB low mile 993 TT S

if anybody knows of a 1997 993 TT S for sale I am looking. Thanks

 

Aren't we all..... aren't we all......

A nice clean, no stories, fully documented 993 Turbo S for sale is sort of like a Yeti or the Loch Ness Monster.... it's purported to exist but few have actually seen said creature.

Prepare your checkbook for some serious drainage if you should find this elusive beast.

 

Ask and you shall receive

This guy has 5

http://www.sloancars.com/vs1/inventory.asp?Age=&PageNum=2&CategoryID=&MakeID=&Sortkey=Make

 

Yep, and they all have 'summer miles.'

 

Certainly respect your desire to own a 993 TT S, especially if one you're a collector or "just has to have one", but I'm not really clear why folks would pony up twice the amount for an TT S over a 993 TT. My impression is there's not that much different between a TT S and a TT, except chipped ECU, exhausts, maybe another oil cooler, firmer suspension, all of which can be add to a TT for less than $10K. Nor am I sure the TT S really outperforms the TT by very much. If one wanted to make a TT more special, one could send it to Ruf in Dallas and get a 'Turbo R' back, again all less than the cost of a TT S. Just curious therefore.

 

+1.

 

I'll shed some light on my desire to have a 993 Turbo S: There were only 184 examples of said car shipped and sold in the United States- therefore it is a very very exclusive group of people that own them. There is some sort of mystique about the Turbo coming from the factory in "S" form. Anyone with enough money can throw wads of cash at a "basic" turbo and make it into a better handling, faster car than the Turbo S, but it still will never be a true 993 Turbo S. The 993 Turbo S is a very unique piece of Porsche history and that is what makes it valuable. That being said, I find it disturbing that there is a 1997 Turbo S for sale with less than 2,000 miles on it. Such an amazing car being kept pent up in a display case somewhere not being utilized for it's intended purpose- the thrill of driving it, makes an engineer somewhere in Germany cry right now. When you keep miles off the odometer on a car like that, you are just saving those miles for the next owner.

 

Call up Sloan and ask him if he has any of those cars in his garage right now..........heh.

In fact, ask him how many of the cars on his website he actually owns, as he says he does, and ask for documented proof..........heh, heh.

Finally, tell him you are flying out tomorrow to buy it........I think you'll find the situation most enlightening.

 

I take it that you've tried before! hahaha

Coolhand - so you're actually going to drive it? Cool!

Shawsan - could the same not be said about the difference between a 360CS and a 360 Modena? Surely you could mod a standard 360 to out perform a CS for less than the difference in cost between the two (yes, I'm aware you have a CS and a RUF)... I agree completely with Coolhand in that sometimes it's not just about the numbers, but about being "special"...

 

I know Sloan and know the cars eh has and yes many of the cars are just on consignment, but I have found him very helpful and professional in dealing with him. That being said his cars are very expensive becuase he does not have much cost in keeping them a yr or 2 or 3 before they sell . I am looking for a private person that might want to sell a car for a more realistic price for a quick sale.

 

From my understanding, transformation of the 360 into a CS involved many more changes -- exterior, interior, and engine -- than are embodied in transformation of a 993 TT to a TT S. And so, I think costs of a relatively FULL transformation of a 360 modena to CS specs and design would be quite hefty ($50-75K or more) One could, of course, mod a 360 (which is a naturally aspirated car) via ECU reflash combined with racing exhaust which will bring the 360 up to the engine specs of the CS, and make it just as fast off the line. But I can't imagine modifying a 360 to be faster than a CS all round, on a track for example, unless one goes for supercharging which is very expensive and risky. In contrast, one can mod a 993 TT (which is turbocharged) via several different engine performance packages plus suspension upgrades, which yield relatively large HP/TQ gains and better handling. The result is that many modified 993 TT cars can leave a 993 TT S in the rear view mirror in straight line acceleration and on the track. And Many 993 TT owners do indeed modify their cars to produce such gains. If I were forking out the $$ for that very special 993 TT S (which one would presumably leave "stock) I personally wouldn't like to be left behind by all sorts of modified 993TT cars buzzing past me. Having said this, I will always admire a 993 TT S.

 

If I had a pristine example of a 993 Turbo S and was blown off the road by someone with a "base" model 993 Turbo with all sorts of modifications, that would not bother me a bit, but I realize that not everyone is like me. I have an aversion to modified cars primarily because it seems like about 80% of the owners that put mods on their cars either don't do it right and leave something out, or the stuff that they put on their cars doesn't work well with the rest of the existing car, or the mods change the dynamics of the car so much that the car doesn't perform right in all areas. There are tuners out there that do fantastic jobs modifying cars (RUF, Brabus, Novitec, etc.) but those are typically package deals where some serious engineering is involved. I'm not saying that an individual can't successfully tune a car with a conglomeration of aftermarket parts, but I am saying that the chances of all of those parts working together well on the car as a whole are less likely than if the car were left stock. Both Ferrari and Porsche pay their engineers well for a reason.

 

$160k for the white one is pretty good with 13k miles.

TTS for the pedestal
TT to drive.
996 GT2 to kick but.

PS there is an S at Manheim auctions. Really.

Edit; its gone. Was in Florida.

 

I think your perspective on mods contains a lot of truth. I've 'walked the mods talk' and fell into the gutter. I engaged a team to build a one of a kind supercharger for a pristine BMW E34 M5 that I owned, raising HP from 315 stock to 465. It was an expensive disaster, continually malfunctioning, breaking belts etc. I finally had a top mechanic take it all off and restore the car to original. Moreover, many folks introduce mods incremental, often resulting in a mix and match hodgepodge that lacks coherence and scares off future buyers. And so, I'm with you when you mention bona fide tuners who have established a good reputation with 'mod packages'. But then, of course, quality does not come cheap.