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  1. ILuv4Res

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    #1 ILuv4Res, Feb 1, 2010
    Found this ad in Craigslist..........someone wanting to sell just the title to their car???

    Curious if this is from Mark Kahn (sp?) - .... b/c it's typed all in caps, living in pompano, 355 red/tan, etc...............Mark, is this you??? If so, wtf is this all about???.................















    SELLING THE TITLE OF THE FERRARI ONLY THE TITLE PEOPLE /HURRY WONT LAS - $18000 (I AM RIGHT HERE LOCALLY IN POMPANO)

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    Date: 2010-01-16, 10:53AM EST
    Reply to: [email protected] [Errors when replying to ads?]


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    I AM SELLING THE ..CLEAN ...CLEAR & GOOD TITLE ..OF MY 1998 FERRARI 355...HAS 24K MILES..........ASKING ONLY $18,000...OR
    I WILL TAKE A CAR IN TRADE FOR MY GOOD VALUABLE TITLE....WORTH IT'S WEIGHT IN GOLD

    THIS IS A GOOD TITLE...NO BLEMISH..CLEAN TITLE.....

    .........THOSE OF U WHO HAVE A SALVAGE OR REBUILD TITLE CAN USE THIS GOOD TITLE

    MARK..(954) 338-5211..CALL IF U R SERIOUS

    · Location: I AM RIGHT HERE LOCALLY IN POMPANO

    · it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
     
  2. Drew_4RE

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    #2 Drew_4RE, Feb 1, 2010
    That definitely has to be mark kahn.

    Can someone clue me in as why someone would buy a clean title only? And then what would he do with his car?
     
  3. ILuv4Res

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    #3 ILuv4Res, Feb 1, 2010
    I think people buy clean titles, then get a 'questionable' car - wrecked, stolen, etc... then, make a fake VIN plate using the clean title VIN, put that clean VIN plate on the car and whaaaala...... you now have a clean car w/ clean title you can market to some unsuspecting person.........


    The better question is what does Mark do with his car once the title is gone?? Part it out??



    This whole situation is fishy at best............
     
  4. kosmo

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    #4 kosmo, Feb 1, 2010
    i would call the DA's office.
     
  5. Drew_4RE

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    #5 Drew_4RE, Feb 1, 2010
    So... You sell a clear title to help someone wash a bad title?

    tsk tsk tsk Mark
     
  6. NeuroBeaker

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    #6 NeuroBeaker, Feb 1, 2010
    Is this legal? It certainly doesn't sound like it should be. I thought titles were bonded to specific vehicles come what may - otherwise, the title documentation is pretty worthless.

    Andrew.
     
  7. Drew_4RE

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    #7 Drew_4RE, Feb 1, 2010
    Cant you buy the title then claim the car?
     
  8. ILuv4Res

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    #8 ILuv4Res, Feb 1, 2010
    LOL........... Probably.

    Can't imagine this guy standing before a judge arguing that he was only selling the 'title'.......
     
  9. ILuv4Res

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    #9 ILuv4Res, Feb 1, 2010

    It's his property, so I don't know if there's anything technically illegal about selling a piece of paper. The issue is that a title wash is illegal, and it's unlikely anyone buying a title for 18 grand is just going to frame it and hang it on the wall. I would think the 'illegal' part comes in if it's done knowingly to aid/abet a crime.


    Assuming Mark's car is still intact, selling a title will render the marketability of the car itself into mush. If someone else uses the title via transfer, then Mark won't be able to get a duplicate title b/c it won't be in his name anymore. If the car was totaled or some other insurance issue, then the title isn't really clean anymore anyways. This whole thing just doesn't make sense, unless he wrecked the car without insurance and he's parting it out with the hopes that the title won't matter any more. But, even in that case, it's kinda shady to sell the title knowing what it potentially will be used for.
     
  10. Scott98

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    #10 Scott98, Feb 2, 2010
    Aren't his intentions made clear with this quote?
     
  11. mseals

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    #11 mseals, Feb 2, 2010
    Unless it has Tiger Woods or OJ Simpson as the owner (or some other celebrity), the paper isn't worth $18K.... unless someone needs a clean title, and he's selling the VIN Tag to go with it...

    This smells worse than the fish market on Tuesday evening...

    Mike
     
  12. ILuv4Res

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    #12 ILuv4Res, Feb 2, 2010
    Yep.....
     
  13. ILuv4Res

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    #13 ILuv4Res, Feb 2, 2010
    Like low tide........
     
  14. Drew_4RE

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    #14 Drew_4RE, Feb 2, 2010
    So the new ad should be, "355, cheap!"

    I think I'll buy it then repo the car from him.
     
  15. B4-40

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    #15 B4-40, Feb 2, 2010
    I read the same thing a while ago. It looks like the listing has been edited. Toned down a little to remove some obvious references about what it can be used for.

    Regardless, it is disgusting that not only do people do this but that they blatantly market it.
     
  16. oss117

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    #16 oss117, Feb 3, 2010
    If you assume instead the car isn't intact anymore, then the whole thing makes more sense, doesn't it?
     
  17. ILuv4Res

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    #17 ILuv4Res, Feb 3, 2010
    Still is pretty darn shady.........
     
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    #18 oss117, Feb 3, 2010
    Another possibility is that the car has been exported and the title is still here.
     
  19. htb3

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    #19 htb3, Feb 3, 2010
    Florida has gone to a paperless titling system like California. When you buy a car, they dont give you the title anymore. The state keeps it all on file electronically and records any liens that are placed against it. If you are selling the car to someone in a different state or moving, then you can request a paper title be sent to you.

    http://www.flhsmv.gov/HTML/emt.htm
     
  20. ILuv4Res

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    #20 ILuv4Res, Feb 4, 2010
    I got a paper title to my limo when I registered it a few months back.
     
  21. Steveny360

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    #21 Steveny360, Feb 4, 2010
    Not if a duplicate title is ordered after the orginal is "lost" Shame.
     
  22. B4-40

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    #22 B4-40, Feb 4, 2010
    Not to get too far off topic here, but from reading the link is this something primarily for vehicles with liens? I bought a car mid December and received a paper title from the state in January. I bought my Ferrari at the beginning of January and was expecting I'd receive another title soon. But one was bought in 2009, the other in 2010. Maybe they just started this?

    Back on-topic...helping some lowlife pass off a damaged vehicle as clean puts the person with the title in the same class as the person with the car in my opinion.
     

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