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WTF is going on when you can be arrested for eating a candy bar?!

Discussion in 'Other Off Topic Forum' started by JSinNOLA, Jul 29, 2004.

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  1. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Your initial comment was regarding my initial comment:
    Therefore, i am NOT comparing one to the other, rather i'm showing how WONDERFUL our government and its priorities are; you, on the other hand, hate yourself and are filled with rage and are constantly looking to fight with someone, thus the need to call me a dolt and continuously make fun of my signature... i'm not sorry that you hate yourself but i AM sorry that you've obviously refused to take my advice to seek professional help... Good day.
     
  2. Ike

    Ike F1 Rookie

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    Obscene speech is unprotected. Many small towns have passes legislation making it illegal to use obscene language in public. I guess they list the words somewhere that they feel are obscene, I don't know. Other things are unprotected as well such as anything that could be considered "fighting words" or anything that is libel. I know there is a couple more but can't remember right now, its been a while since that class.
     
  3. LetsJet

    LetsJet F1 Veteran
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    Should you change your location (in your profile) to DC? That IS where you are, correct? If you are, what you are saying is good news. I'm just stating my expriences that I'm certain do not happen every day. But, it does turn you off to future uses.

    Look some people like the city some don't........ maybe I've just lived around here long enough to be disinterested.

    ....... give it time
     
  4. Nibblesworth

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    Sorry, pal, again you are wrong.

    The big bad goverment of which you speak did not arbitrarily create a ban on sex toys. I'll bet that, if you were do do some *GASP*! research, you might find that the ban of sex toys is in existence as a result of voter wishes. Therefore, it is not the government that you should be angry towards, but the people of Arkansas or Alabama or whever the hell the law exists.

    But then again, you'd be mad if the government went against the wishes of the citiznes of the state, right?

    I'm not angry, nor am I looking for a fight. You post stupid ****, I call you on it. If that gets you worked up, or your little panites in a twist, oh well.

    Flawlessly Perfect day to you, too!
     
  5. Nibblesworth

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    I'm only in DC for six weeks, then I go home. In fact, tomorrow will be my last day.

    I can't speak for every rider of the metro, but I haven't had any problems and haven't seen any, so perhaps it's gotten better since your last ride. Hopefully so.
     
  6. LetsJet

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    My last ride was over 8 yrs. ago......

    Have a safe flight / ride back
     
  7. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    The Federal Appeals Court is not, in some way, a part of the government...?
     
  8. imperial83

    imperial83 F1 Rookie
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    This was in the "oddly enough" news section on Yahoo for a reason. ;)
     
  9. Nibblesworth

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    Ummm....you need to take a civics course. I honestly can't beleive you don't understand how this works.

    Since you are so anti-education (and it shows with your lack of knowledge on the issue), I'll explain it.

    The state legislature creates a law, usually based on constituent desires. Someone who does not like the law challenges it. It goes to state court, and if it is upheld, the challenger can take it to federal circuit courts. If the federal courts uphold the state law, then it goes to the Supreme Court. If the supreme court upholds it, the challenger goes home.

    In this case, the sale of sex toys falls under a state's police powers (look it up - not what you think), which the state has control over (assuming it does not go against any of the rights stated in the constitution). The federal government does not have the power to override constitutionally sounds police power laws.

    Now, if someone can explain how banning the sale of sex toys is unconstituional, I'd like to hear how. Keep in mind that it is not illegal to use them, only to sell them in the state.
     
  10. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Ok, what am i missing here...? Aren't the aforementioned courts and police powers parts of the government, or did they come out of a Lucky Charms box...?
     
  11. Nibblesworth

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    Nevermind. Not worth it anymore.
     
  12. WILLIAM H

    WILLIAM H Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Perfect example of Govt bloat, waste, abuse, & tyrany
     
  13. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    I recall one of our F-Chatters was thoroughly chastised for mouthing off to a cop when he was busted for being a bit inebriated as a passenger in a car.

    Laws exist in Metro stations. Some seem silly, but they're still laws. In Metro's case, it simply means no eating or drinking... or it'll cost you 10 bucks.

    FWIW: Not mentioned on the first article, but according to her, she was also taunting the officer
    http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0704/162446.html
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    With that in mind, note Chief stated she probably wouldn't have been arrested if she hadn't been "belligerent."
    http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0704/162520.html
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    Note the officer was writing a citation, but the woman refused to comply.

    Further, Hanson defended the actions of the officers.

    "Everybody who is locked up is searched. That's for the person's safety and the officer's safety. It's to look for contraband and weapons. That's standard policy and procedure all over the United States," Hanson says.

    "I can't say that anybody I ever met has been happy when they've been locked up. This could have all been averted if the woman had followed the warning, not just once but several times or had complied and stopped for the issuance of a ticket."
    http://www.wtopnews.com/?sid=237272&nid=25
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    Fine for the citation?: $10.00

    Her own fault letting a molehill turn into a mountain.
     
  14. PSk

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    Where is the wonderful American Constitution when you need it? ... so much for the freedom country ;) ;)

    After all the guy in the wheelchair could not even say what he liked about the lack of access ... interesting ...

    Pete
     
  15. 134282

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    Pete, that's what i've been saying; that's what i was saying in the bumper sticker thread; that's been my angle all along...
     
  16. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    Ooooooooooh, I get it now and thus I appologise :).

    I thought you were saying the US was superior and thus more attractive than other countries because of their constitution.

    Sorry blood rushing so fast, brain and thus reasoning could not catch up :)

    Pete
     
  17. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    LOL, not in the least... Apology accepted, but not needed in the first place... i understand where you were coming from... :)
     
  18. enjoythemusic

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    i call it freeDUMB. Are we truly "free" to pursue a life of liberty and happiness? i think not.

    Ahhh, and some people are also more equal than others.

    Wake up and smell the espresso folks.
     
  19. coolestkidever

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    Some guy got a ticket for sitting on a milk crate in NYC, sure enough right on the side of the crate it says its illegal to use in any other way.
     
  20. matterhorn762

    matterhorn762 Formula Junior

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    Who is this "we all" come from??? You can speak for yourself, but not for the universal opinion of man kind.

    Most parents probably don't want to see kids watching porn either. So do you want to ban pornography too?

    I believe you will find most educated Americans believe the 55/65MPH speed limit is a vestige of 50s car technology and/or 70s oil shortages at best, and poor revenue generation at worst.
     
  21. matterhorn762

    matterhorn762 Formula Junior

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    Well, since government harrassment doesn't affect you directly, let's just ignore it and let it be somebody else's problem?

    The analogy to earlier mindsets which happened in the first half of the century is a little disturbing.
     
  22. Robin

    Robin F1 Rookie

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    While I agree that arresting this person is pretty extreme, the DC Metro is pretty clear about no eating and drinking allowed in the stations or on the trains. The cars are carpeted, so anytime some schmuck spills their triple mocha latte or drops a candy bar in the middle of August, it gets pretty nasty. Her situation sucked, but she should have known better. The rule is no eating and drinking, so if you're gonna break the rule, be ready to deal with whatever ration of crap the metro police feel like dishing out on you and don't whine about it. I'm bothered more by her whining than by the cops' response.

    -R
     

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