| Author | Message | ||
| Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
Junior Member Username: Turboqv Post Number: 71 Registered: 3-2003 |
habeus corpus | ||
| Christian Asis (Christian_asis)
New member Username: Christian_asis Post Number: 21 Registered: 4-2003 |
I don't own a Ferrari. I doubt that I ever will. However, I love the cars and appreciate true car enthusiasts of any marque who enjoy their cars. I consider myself very fortunate that Matt (and others) have invited me to a number of FDC events. I was lucky enough to be able to attend one a few months back and although my lowly S2000 pales in comparison to some of the hardware that showed up, I was made to feel very welcome by so many of you. Including, and perhaps most specifically, by Matt. As an outsider looking in, I think that this whole situation is rubbish. It should be about the cars and the people who love them, not this BS that is going on. I don't Matt's accusers but have no reason to believe they're not decent fellows. I do know Matt and consider him a stand up guy. My suggestion is that we all grab a shovel, bury this bulltaco and move on. Losing a great guy, huge contributor to the community, and all around cool car enthusiast over something this dumb is just silly. But that's my 2 cents. | ||
| Paul Brennan (Turboqv)
Junior Member Username: Turboqv Post Number: 69 Registered: 3-2003 |
the whole situation is childish and FUBAR. Who are we to judge anyone? too much finger pointing!! seems like a few need to clean the windows of their glass houses. Happy Motoring in your Ferrari | ||
| Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member Username: Fasttalk Post Number: 143 Registered: 8-2002 |
Guys, Please, can we just drop this ••••. Adam | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1715 Registered: 12-2002 |
deleted. Sorry guys | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2383 Registered: 6-2001 |
If its the truth, why is he hiding? Art | ||
| G. Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green Post Number: 35 Registered: 8-2003 |
F Lover, Nothing pisses these guys off more than telling the truth. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2378 Registered: 6-2001 |
F Lover: YOu'd get a lot more respect if you had a real profile, if you didn't hide behind a phony name. I don't know you, but I think that you don't understand the dynamics of what has occurred, nor apparently do you care about the quality that Matt brought to the board. Tony Roberts, and his other alias was basically a piece of junk that cluttered up this board. Matt spoke for all of us in essentially eliminating the garbage from this area. Your opinons have little value, and if you're unwilling to tell us who you are, I suggest you keep your thoughts to yourself. Art | ||
| Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member Username: Fasttalk Post Number: 142 Registered: 8-2002 |
I also like Matt, but it seems to me that he is the only one that can close this issue, and by chosing not to participate in F-Chat anymore he has already done so. Not the route I would have gone, but if he wants to leave, so be it. This is just a fun forum, and if it was not fun for him any more, he had done what is right for him. In my opinion we should let it go and all move on. Adam | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 773 Registered: 2-2003 |
I will copy my post I put in the General Discussion re: this soap opera. Matt is my friend and if he lied about having either of those, I would be disappointed, sleep on it, and wake up not remembering it. Maybe not right away, maybe a week later, or whatever. It was because of Matt especially, along with Byron, JL, Ron, Eldon, Bob, Gene, Martin, Tom D, Dan, Marty, Mike, Craig, James, Dom, Steve (house of blues Steve) and others that introduced me into the world of Ferrari ownership more than I could have hoped for and now I want one. But I came away with something better than that.. friends I hope to keep a very long time regardless of whats parked in the garage, what fish stories are told, good times and bad. And I hope they feel the same way about me. I will give anyone the benefit of the doubt and can forgive a mistake. I understand that some of you don't have that luxury. He exists to most of you only as a name and IP address with a personality. If your out there reading this man, **** 'em, lets do lunch or go driving when you get back. Sunny | ||
| G. Green (Mr_green)
New member Username: Mr_green Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2003 |
F Lover, Check out this thread: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/251280/272007.html#post236104 | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Member Username: Dom Post Number: 378 Registered: 11-2002 |
I've met Matt, and his 308. He's been very helpful and pleasant to chat with. I don't know about his other cars, and quite frankly, don't care. It would be a shame to lose him. Dom | ||
| Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth Post Number: 1113 Registered: 10-2002 |
I have not commented much about this on F-Chat until now... Art, I agree with you completely. To many who know Matt both here online and in person, I'm sure you will agree with me that he is a valuable contributor to this community and is an extremely generous person, with time, money, and everything else. He is the guy you can depend on WHENEVER you get stuck somewhere... if he can't drive out to help you, he will go as far as finding the right person to help you out or chase down the right part # you may need for your car! The unfortunate aspect of any online or anonymous setting is that people can never be truly represented by the way they are in person. F Lover - I don't know who you are ... but if you trace all of the 'Tony Roberts' posts, you will see that most of that stemmed from a number of VERY inappropriate posts from the originating party... some racially-charged, which I found extremely offensive and inappropriate. John, I'm glad to see people like you who have been following FChat, speak out with some of your thoughts... there are 100's (if not 1000's) of lurkers on this board who benefit from just reading this board... Every now and then, one or two people speak out and provide some added perspective that is very welcomed!! It is for this very reason why this board and community is so successful in its true fashion of comaraderie. I've met (and continue to meet) so many quality individuals from the this community, almost on a daily basis... and from what I see, the caliber of individuals that I meet are nothing short of amazing. Traveling around the country, I've been met with open arms by strangers whom I've never met in person - just chatted with online. And likewise, I've extended the same courtesy. It is not important to me who owns what or who claims to own what... this is a forum for owners and enthusiasts alike... we love Ferrari. That is the common tie that binds us. Matt is an asset to FerrariChat... whichever way you spin it or from whatever perspective you look at it. If he does not choose to post here anymore, that is a personal choice that I will respect... However, in my opinion, that would still be a loss to our small but growing community, especially in So Cal. Rob, I can vouch for Matt as an individual with integrity. He is a friend who has helped out in countless occasions when nobody else was around to do so. Yes, he is somewhat vocal about his thoughts on this board - and who isn't?  I hope we can all move gracefully beyond this and just continue to enjoy our cars, both as owners and non-owners. Byron | ||
| peter brinzey (Ferraripete)
Junior Member Username: Ferraripete Post Number: 104 Registered: 11-2002 |
having never met matt, but having exchanged many e-mails about boxers and the repairs and services we were having, it seemed to me he knew too much real info about the boxer and its' quirks. his e-mails to me...always polite. his posts...usually very fun and always witty. matt don't worry about the gossip on this line and don't become part of it. the fact is there are many people on this chat that claim to be racers, serious collectors, hey adam fiedler even claims his diablo does 220 mph on nitrous(yeah right...read the gear chart you idiot!) to sum up, i dont really care about the pictures but would qualify matt as a real ferrari guy, i hope he will remain so. peter | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5922 Registered: 12-2000 |
First of all, I hope Matt doesn't leave, whether he had the cars or not. For latest updates and my perspective see the main thread in GFD. | ||
| F Lover (F_lover)
New member Username: F_lover Post Number: 1 Registered: 8-2003 |
John, what you may not know is that Matt was the first and loudest to demand that others prove ownership of their cars. He even went so far as to offer $10,000 in cash and an ad in the LA Times if one person proved they had a particular Ferrari. He has also been very quick to point fingers and call people names at times. That is probably the reason many people were not as willing to cut him some slack or give him the benefit of a doubt without some proof on his part. | ||
| John Christopher (Johncj8989)
New member Username: Johncj8989 Post Number: 11 Registered: 7-2003 |
Im new to this board and dont really know anybody, but have been following this topic. If I were in Matts shoes I can understand why he might be hesitant to post the pics. Sometimes when people doubt us and place demands on us like the whole "prove it" thing we may have a tendency to take the attitude of and say to ourselves "screw you, I dont have to prove anything." Matt is a major contributer to this board and maybe he deserves the benefit of the doubt. After all...these are cars. Its not like he has kidnapped somebodies Daughter as his own and has to prove kinship. Being new here I know my thoughts dont carry much weight but I just hated seeing somebody who has such a passion for Ferrari and this board feeling as though he had to withdraw. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2373 Registered: 6-2001 |
This is a shame, and didn't have to happen. We should have dealt with this better. Art | ||
| Il Commenadatore (Ilcommenadatore)
New member Username: Ilcommenadatore Post Number: 7 Registered: 8-2003 |
What happened? Did Matt admit that he did not own the PF and the BB? Please tell us what happened, Rob. | ||
| Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum Post Number: 170 Registered: 9-2002 |
hey matt, you will be missed, if you ever need anything, a ride to or from the mechanic, any help on your car, anything, give me a call or email me, Craig | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5892 Registered: 12-2000 |
The files had no data in them either. It was done on purpose by Matt. | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Junior Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 240 Registered: 4-2003 |
Rob It is a ImageForge file and you would probably have get it to open the file. It's available for download a bunch of places ~$30. I have Photoshop and a bunch of other photo editing software and none of them open IFOs. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5889 Registered: 12-2000 |
You sent them in IFO format, which is not any graphics format that I've heard of. I'm researching it at the moment to figure out how to read it. Can you just send it normally like a jpg or gif? Come on, you know better than that. | ||
| The Don (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6338 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sorry Art, This is my last and final post on F-chat. This decission was not based on the main board but due to private emails between Rob and myself. Good luck to you all and I wish you all the best. Including Wayne. You all can keep tabs of me on the spotters thread in Texas. Rob, Delete me when you are free to do so. | ||
| The Don (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 6337 Registered: 8-2002 |
Rob, Pic's are in your inbox. 308 and 512 and me in the garage. 512 vin plate. 308 vin plate. 250 vin plate 250 registration ( in my wife's name) 250 and 308 in garage 250 at the peterson 512 back from restoration | ||
| Bart Duesler (The_bart)
Member Username: The_bart Post Number: 277 Registered: 1-2003 |
Gee, this sounds as if hissy-fit is happening. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5887 Registered: 12-2000 |
Everyone knows about the 308, but with the BB and 250 pf around someone must of seen them too. No pics and no personal sightings yet, but that's soon to change as Matt is emailing me pics tonight of the BB. We can finally get this crappy situation over with. No fun at all. | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1682 Registered: 12-2002 |
Id rather not loose either of them! I would vouch for him, but I have only seen in person his 308...although Im just positive he is telling the truth. Call Symbolic Motors and ask if they did a 40k restoration on a phantom car! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5886 Registered: 12-2000 |
Byron, Hans, or anyone else from FDC just vouch for him. I'm believing he's been telling the truth, so easy to prove then? Oh, leave FC or Cali? I hope he doesn't leave FC, but we could use him in DFW. Not too many others are helping me with events here. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2372 Registered: 6-2001 |
I've been reading the posts about Matt. I think that he had added quite a bit to this group, and even though I'm from Northern California, I think that we should try to make sure he doesn't leave. Any thoughts? Art |