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Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 179 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 7:01 pm: | |
i didnt go but i met the guys in T.O. to say hi, great to see everybody, 2 F40's and many other very cool cars, the sounds of the guys pulling away was awsome, i was hoping to see matt but he didnt show, byron was having starter problems, did he make it back ok? |
PlayersMarkus (Playersmarkus)
Junior Member Username: Playersmarkus
Post Number: 125 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 2:22 pm: | |
lol, what happened guys ? I just talked to Roland and he told me that there is a hot blonde sitting next to him ;O) Would have loved to stop by, but I'm still stuck here at Pebble Beach Concourse...HAVE FUN !;o) Markus Playersrun.com |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 643 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 7:28 am: | |
Alright This sucks. I've been up since 4:30am because I can not sleep in anticipation of the drive. CAN'T WAIT |
Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 1130 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 2:56 am: | |
Ack... just patched a tear in my CV boot... car should be ok for tomorrow. Bill, Beth, Elden, Jordan... see you in a few. All, make sure to check fluid levels and bring lots of water!  |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 793 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 2:45 am: | |
Joran, its on always and turned to its loudest setting - the rest of you, no funny ideas before drive day LOL! Catch you in the AM at the Federal Bldg (I'll be there a little early) Sunny |
Bill Rose (Superbimmer)
New member Username: Superbimmer
Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:54 am: | |
Hi all . . . I'm looking forward to meeting Byron's group as they rendezvous in Irvine, for the drive to the start in Thousand Oaks. My wife and I will not be able to make the full trip, since my "new" engine is not ready for a long drive yet. But we'll get Byron (et all) on their way. In fact, we'll follow for a while ... before turning to home. Hopefully, all will go well, during the break-in period, and we'll be able to go motoring with full comfidence soon. See some of you tomorrow! |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1737 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, August 17, 2003 - 12:32 am: | |
CANT WAIT!!! Im a bit nervous though Sunny, could you please leave your phone on if you can...incase I need to call you because of an emergency or something. I have your number from the last Santa Barbara drive. Im off to bed now! Up at 5:15 for me.
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Ron Tanuwidjaja (Rt7)
New member Username: Rt7
Post Number: 2 Registered: 7-2003
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:57 pm: | |
Here's the beast at Concorso Italiano.
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Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 642 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 11:29 pm: | |
Looking forward to meeting all of you Tomorrow. |
Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 243 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Saturday, August 16, 2003 - 2:10 am: | |
here is a pic of that 1/8 scale Pocher F40 I built. and another look forward to seeing you all! Rob
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Kevin Paul (Klfpaul)
New member Username: Klfpaul
Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 11:04 pm: | |
Don't drool on the LM, see you all there!!! |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 787 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:17 pm: | |
Mmmmmm Sunday... can't wait! Will bring my bib and extra batteries for the camera. Sunny |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 641 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, August 15, 2003 - 10:08 pm: | |
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYONE ON SUNDAY! |
Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 1123 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 11:44 am: | |
Rob, You have mail. Byron
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Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 234 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 10:54 am: | |
Just a note; I dont want to be a party crasher so I will show up early have a drink with my wife and if there is enough room pay my $60. If not look at the cars and leave. I don't want to be impolite, just did not want to take a chance going the whole way. I am only mentioning this as I did not properly sign up. Rob |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 777 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, August 14, 2003 - 12:43 am: | |
Robert, Jordan, I'm good with that. I'll give you both a call or a chat tomorrow and we can hash things over. Cheers, Sunny |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1709 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 11:05 pm: | |
That looks like an amazing collection Robert! Ill be riding with Sunny on the drive and if he is up for it, Id love to stop by! What scale is that large F40? That thing is huge! |
Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 233 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 7:43 pm: | |
Here are some pictures of the shrine. :-)
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Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 232 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 3:33 pm: | |
Dear friends, I have been having some problems with my cooling system, or I would have signed up for the whole run. I tried to contact Robert C. in Santa Barbara to meet up so we could do an abreviated route, to no avail, Robert if you want to call me my number is below. I am friends with the establishment where lunch is being served so I will probably meet you guys there. I have lived in this area my whole life and know some alternate roads back to the 101 if anyone is interested. Also several chaters stopped by my small "museum" last New Years Day, but only got to see the garage. If any are interested I will open up my main shrine for veiwing. I live 5 minutes off the freeway on the way home for most of you, and would be honored if anyone stopped by. I live on a small street but 10-15 cars might fit :-) One more bit of info, it has been hot in Ojai about 100+ every day, and the route from Solvang through Santa Ynez should be even hotter, be prepared. Ventura is a cool 75-80 and the weather may be cooling up for the weekend. Regards, Rob 805-654-7895 |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 629 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 2:00 pm: | |
For all who have confirmed for this drive, You should have recently received a confirmation e-mail. If not please e-mail me at [email protected]. As of now we have all spots filled, but please let me know if you are interested and I can put you on the waiting list. Jean-Louis Michel |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 627 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 9:38 pm: | |
All who are interested in the Roland Linder Drive, Please e-mail [email protected] Jean-Louis
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Byron (Bmyth)
Intermediate Member Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 1052 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 8:58 pm: | |
Some alternative emails: [email protected] [email protected] Thanks. |
Jeremy P (Stolit_redux)
New member Username: Stolit_redux
Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 7:04 pm: | |
Curious. I just tried to e-mail [email protected], but got this as a "return to sender" message. Strange. This message was created automatically by mail delivery software (Exim). A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: [email protected] (generated from [email protected]) unknown local-part "admin" in domain "host45.ipowerweb.com" |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 638 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 6:31 pm: | |
Rob, I look forward to seeing you again. |
Jeremy P (Stolit_redux)
New member Username: Stolit_redux
Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 6:30 pm: | |
Would my car be satisfactory for the drive? It's a '91 Corvette. I have a picture in my profile. I'm also only 16 years of age, if that makes any difference. I've been on several Corvette cruises before, however. If my car is acceptable, I'd like to attend. I've never even sat in a Ferrari that had the engine running, but I'd very much like to see and hear your wonderful machines. If I do attend...I'm unsure how to put this, but as previously stated, I've never had a ride in any F-Car before. Would someone be kind enough to perhaps give a future Ferrari owner their first ride in an F-Car? I would greatly appreciate it. -Jeremy |
Bart Duesler (The_bart)
Junior Member Username: The_bart
Post Number: 249 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 5:24 pm: | |
Sorry Gents but I will be returning from San Jose on that Sunday. I might try to cut over to the coast highway but I cannot guaranttee when I will be hitting Santa Barbara. Sounds like fun but oh well. PS: As my silver beast flashes by you guys, I will wave. Ha-ha |
Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven
Post Number: 217 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 31, 2003 - 12:41 pm: | |
Here guys I would really like to go but I am not sure my car will be running. Ideally I would like to meet in Santa Barbara and go on the last leg to Ojai for lunch as I am not sure my car would make it through the hottest part (Santa Ynez) of the trip. However if someone is going alone and needs some ballast to give proper weight distribution I would be happy to oblige. Also on the way home if you guys want to stop by my house again to view the shrine after the run on the way home I would be honored. This time I will make sure the inside shrine is available. If anyone in Santa Barbara wants to e-mail or call me we could talk about the drive my numbers are 805-643-6003 home 805-654-7895 work
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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6203 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 7:44 am: | |
Shahin shoot me an e-mail so I can add you to the list.
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shahin tabassi (Shahin)
Junior Member Username: Shahin
Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 3:34 am: | |
id like to come. |
Roland E.Linder (F40lm)
New member Username: F40lm
Post Number: 30 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 4:54 pm: | |
Lack of oxygen and the heat in the car gave me a falls reading for the date...Remember that I live at 6000feet. Sunday is the 17th even for me... See you all in a few weeks. Roland Players run |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6174 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:31 am: | |
Bob, shoot me an e-mail so I can add you to the list. Also if you will be bringing a passenger. |
Robert Callahan (Rcallahan)
Member Username: Rcallahan
Post Number: 279 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 10:19 am: | |
I'd like to join you guys in SB then the drive to Ojai if it's ok. Bob |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6165 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 7:46 am: | |
christian and sunny, Both of your cars will be fine on the drive. I think you know if I did not think so I would tell you ;) |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 688 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | |
Hell, I'll drive my beater if everyone was OK with it. Stick lessons and then jumping into your 308, Matt, just doesn't sound like a good idea -- I'm not keen on breaking (not breaking in) your new clutch but its sooooooooo tempting an offer to drive an F-car (bastard!).. I'm on the hunt for a shotgun seat too. Anyone? Driving 10/10ths and I should be ok holding at the back of the pack. I should hear the scream from the F40 and be able to nail the throttle with enough lead time to keep up! lol Sunny |
Christian Asis (Christian_asis)
New member Username: Christian_asis
Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 10:15 pm: | |
Matt - I appreciate the vote of confidence but I humbly submit that my S2000 is hardly exotic and moreover, I'm not a good enough (or dumb/brave) enough driver to try and keep up with an F40 anyway. So... if there's anyone who's willing to let me ride shotgun... |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6143 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 8:22 am: | |
I only have a couple of spaces left. If you want to go, I need to hear from you soon. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6047 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, July 17, 2003 - 11:55 am: | |
We have 10 cars signed up already. Get in while you can.
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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6040 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:31 pm: | |
christian, if you can keep up, which I know you can, you are welcome to come. |
Christian Asis (Christian_asis)
New member Username: Christian_asis
Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 10:18 pm: | |
I fear that my S2000 doesn't qualify as an exotic but would love to participate. Is anyone open minded towards having a non-Ferrari owning enthusiast as a passenger? I'm down in Orange County but am more than happy to meet up at a location you feel is most convenient! Christian |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6021 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:34 pm: | |
Roland, I am SO excited. It was nice to talk to you tonight See you soon |
Roland E.Linder (F40lm)
New member Username: F40lm
Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 8:32 pm: | |
Hello to the LA drivingclub, First, I want to tell you how much I enjoyed being with you. You guys are exactly what a "driver" should be. Drive and enjoy his Ferrari. I can't wait to see you for the ride on the 17th, this could be a great test for the one willing to join the Players run next june...I'm in and I hope that some of you will do that great run.For the few lucky or unlucky one, I might have some cooling ducts by than, today was really to hotin the car on my way back from a calendar shout... Get your cars ready, I'm coming down...Get ears plugs too. Take care, Roland |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6011 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:46 pm: | |
Ferrari driving club presents Run with Roland Linder's famous Ferrari F-40 LM Sunday August 17th 2003 This drive is limited to high performance cars only This drive is also limited to the first 30 cars that register by August 14th The Plan: The drive will start in thousand oaks. We will drive via the 101 up to Santa Barbara and then on to Buellton and then through Solvang. We will then drive down back through Santa Barbara and then up to Ojai for lunch. All register drivers will receive a wrist band at the rally point in Thousand Oaks. No wrist band�.No drive. Cost is $30 per person to cover the cost of lunch RSVP to [email protected] no later then August 14, 2003 We drive and drive often
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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6009 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:39 pm: | |
Dave, Maybe 180 miles. |
DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr
Post Number: 167 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 7:38 pm: | |
Matt, What was the total mileage from orange county to the winery last year?? - forgot the name of the event. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6006 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 6:07 pm: | |
Dave, you do not want to miss this one. BTW it's about a 230 mile drive from TO and back so plan on about a 300 mile day for you. |
DaveE (Banzaiboxr)
Junior Member Username: Banzaiboxr
Post Number: 166 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 5:59 pm: | |
Matt, I hope to make it if my car is ready. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6002 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 3:32 pm: | |
This drive will be limited to the 1st 30 cars with a cut off on August 14th |
Kal (Suprakal)
New member Username: Suprakal
Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 3:27 pm: | |
Hmm I'm 6'3 200lbs I don't think I could squeeze into the F40 seats if I wanted to.... |
Byron (Bmyth)
Member Username: Bmyth
Post Number: 933 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 3:17 pm: | |
bring extra shirts, matt... it's 130 degrees F in his car. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 6001 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 2:28 pm: | |
I got his co-pilot from TO to SB and back. HEAVEN! |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 610 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 2:27 pm: | |
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"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5999 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 2:08 pm: | |
Ron, I am sure you will. |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 608 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 1:31 pm: | |
Count me in. Hope I get to ride in the F40. |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 616 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 1:10 pm: | |
I am up for it |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5998 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 12:53 pm: | |
Jeremy, yep! I love them too much to not have them come. |
Jeremy (Jdb)
New member Username: Jdb
Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 11:53 am: | |
Open to Vipers? |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5994 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:36 am: | |
Scott, Historically, we do not post location and times of or drives unless it is a short last minute drive. If you would like to be included, e-mail me @ [email protected] M |
ScottMellor (Scottmellor)
New member Username: Scottmellor
Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 - 9:31 am: | |
What time are you leaving Thousand Oaks? I only drive a toad, (993TT) but I'd like to come along. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5971 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 7:17 pm: | |
JL, are you going to bank milage for this drive? Expect about 250 miles from West LA and back |
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
Member Username: Jlm348
Post Number: 614 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 6:48 pm: | |
I'm ready baby |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5969 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 6:18 pm: | |
Route is in the works and lunch plans in the mix. This is going to be awsome. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5968 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, July 15, 2003 - 6:18 pm: | |
Kal, Tota Blast |
Kal (Suprakal)
New member Username: Suprakal
Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 4:49 pm: | |
Thanks Matt! By the way did you guys have a blast in Vegas? |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5906 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 4:30 pm: | |
Kal, Sure. Why not. |
Kal (Suprakal)
New member Username: Suprakal
Post Number: 39 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 4:29 pm: | |
Matt can I take the SupDawg to this meet? I know it doesn't classify as an exotic but hey they did only make 6000 of em and it does make as much power as a regular F40. I just don't want to miss such a bad ass and rare car! Also I'll try to bring along my friends F40 so we have a true superstar meet going.
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Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1544 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:57 pm: | |
Sunny, you can come down and drive my car for a while to get used to it. That way you can drive the 308 and I can hitch a ride
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Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 663 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:43 pm: | |
Matt, thanks for the offer but I have little manual driving experience. Jordan can drive, I'll be passenger ;) |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1543 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:31 pm: | |
Lucky Matt! Would you mind terribly (up to Sunny as well) if I rode along with Sunny in your car? |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5904 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:18 pm: | |
Sunny, You can drive my F-car. I am getting a ride with Roland   |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1542 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 3:10 pm: | |
I could use a ride as well. My car just cant keep up at all!! So, Ill be able to go if I can hitch a ride with someone sounds like fun though! I cant wait to see his F40 LM! |
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6
Post Number: 656 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 1:37 pm: | |
Be nice. That iced tea had quite a kick! ;) Anyone have a co-pilot seat open? |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 4152 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 9:11 am: | |
what were you drinking  |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5888 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:57 am: | |
good question. Both Roland and I looked at a calendar and Sunday was the 18th. It will be on Sunday the 17th. |
Ron (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider
Post Number: 603 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:48 am: | |
Matt, is this drive really on a Monday? Just want to make sure. |
"The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don
Post Number: 5885 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, July 14, 2003 - 8:08 am: | |
On August 17th, We are going to be bleased with Roland Linder and his Famous F-40 LM. The Plan. Meet at a super secret location in Thousand Oaks. Drive through Santa Barbara, Buellton, Solvang back through SB down to Ojai for lunch at his friends place then back down to Thousand Oaks. This drive is open to all Exotics. |