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Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
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Post Number: 277
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 4:29 pm:   

I like it shows ferrari is going in the right direction with its styleing and performance. Even though I think thier needs to be a little more dramtic changes to both. They are going in the right dirrection.
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
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Post Number: 1296
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 4:22 pm:   

Yuck, another horrible design.
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 3:45 pm:   

i like the picture Andrew posted... The three vents in the center above the grill are awesome...! However, i wouldn't want to see remnants of the GTO in the new 460; i'd rather see them do a new GTO...!

The pictures posted of the 456 replacement look great; i like it...
Matty (Liquid)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 3:42 pm:   

I like the rear end of this new 612 & thats about it. The wheels look way to small in those pics for this vehicle. That being said I have extremely high expectations for the next gen 360. Keeping my fingers crossed that it'll be a stunner.
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
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Post Number: 1376
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 3:20 pm:   

I agree with 89TCab, this is very very similar to the Panoz- nearly identical actually.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=panoz+esperante

I like it, beautiful car- but for a GT car, I agree with Andrew, where's the dashboard?
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:59 pm:   

Dave,

Agreed about the interior of the photos below as it looks disjointed. Perhaps the black bits can be changed to a more complimentary color? The Maserati interior is wonderful by contrast when configured well.

Enjoy the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
Russ Turner (Snj5)
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Post Number: 604
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

I think this is a beautiful car and Andrew's Ferrari King rendition with the vents on the side and the air intakes is perfect.
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:28 pm:   

Looks outstanding to me! It will probably blow the doors off a M-B or Bimmer. Can't wait to drive one!
Jim Avery (Boxer12)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   

Tim, try http://www.owners.ferrari.com/cgi-bin/Feros/os/jsp/np.jsp
Tim N (Timn88)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:18 pm:   

Where did the link to the owners site go that let me see the article?
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 2:11 pm:   

Cheeseman, keep up... we all know exactly what the badge is... our point was that they don't have the 5th win on there! I am hoping they update the badge real soon (since I have a car in production)! I want all 5 on there!
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 1:53 pm:   

Is it just me, or does it really need spacers.
z. b. (Cheeseman)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 1:49 pm:   

Lionel, Brian, and Zarka the championship bagdes are refering to the four formula one constructors championships in a row that ferrari won in 99, 00, 01, 02, and now 03. five in a row baby! they're not misprinted.
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 1:42 pm:   

Compare the interior of the Bentley, for $150,000, an the interior of this car, for $240,000.

'Nuff said. One says "bespoke grand touring car with a shitload of horsepower" and the other says "Fiat parts bin".

But the exterior is nice, if you like th ePanoz Esperante look...
Kevin (Jammy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   

Well, I think they've got it pretty much spot on. Still not sure about the nose, but the rest of it is modern and elegant, including the cabin. More power, manual & F1 option, better ergonomics too. While it may be primarily a grand tourer, people like me will still want to go out for a blast in it. So, GT with sporting overtones does it big time. It's about the only thing, other than a Vanquish or bankruptcy, that'll get me out of the 456.

Interesting to see the Bentley GT being used as a comparator. Clearly very competent but doesn't do anything to your pulse rate. Leaves me cold in all respects. Now the Vanquish...

In response to James' question of who is buying one; I will buy one, just not a new one. When I saw the red one posted by Luciano, the universe stopped for a few seconds; this means the decision has been made. However. It may be the one to buck the depreciation trend, but I wouldn't bank on it. Much as I'm drawn to it, losing so much money, so quickly, would make me hate it, so it'll have to wait a year or two.
Mark (Marvellous_mark)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 12:01 pm:   

Ferrari UK have got something on the homepage:

http://www.ferrari.co.uk

looks good jeff - tell your designers they RULE!!!
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:35 am:   

I too wish I could do cool stuff like that.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:33 am:   

Ron all the credit goes to a friend on supercars.net called FerrariKing :-) . I am unable to do such things ! Wish i could !
Mark (Marvellous_mark)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:32 am:   

The Cerbera is 4.28m as opposed to the 612 at 4.9m, so in the flesh they are in different ball parks.
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:29 am:   

Andrew
Your rendition looks fantastic!

That's what the next GTO should look like.. It's time for an update anyway.
89TCab (Jmg)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:21 am:   

Seperated at birth?

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Mixed feelings...I liked the roofline on the current models but it seems to me that they are bringing it more in line with the 575. I would have thought they would shoot for something more radical but perhaps it will help maintain the value of the model as it ages.

- JMG
Jason W (Pristines4)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:20 am:   

Anyone else think it looks a bit like a TVR Cerbera?
V.Z. (Ama328)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:18 am:   

$ ?
Adnaan Rasool (Adnaan)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:14 am:   

I absolutely love the new 612. Compared to some who frown at a Ferrari with more than 2 seats, Im a big fan of the 4 seaters as I have more than 2 people in my family!

The shape is a beaut, and im sure like all Ferrari's it will look better in the flesh.

BUT! - The interior lets it down big time. I think the dash on the 456 is amazing, but the 612? I bit plain, boring and ordinary if you ask me. Sure its minimalistic like the Enzo style, but then the enzo is a racer designed to go quick. The 612 is a GT, designed to carry you across continents at speed.

The dash is just plain boring. Dare I say its like the design of the new baby Lambo. It looks nice, but when you see a lambo for the first time its supposed to stick in your mind for days. With the new Lambo it just doesnt do that. Im afraid the 612's dash doesnt either.

I'll tell you what it supposed to do. Its supposed to make you react like DES when he see's an Enzo! (No offence intended).

I recently when to Luxembourg and visited the Ferrari dealership there. They had a 456 which I sat in. I couldnt forget the feeling I got when I sat behind the wheel. I dont think the dash of the 612 would give me that same buzz.
ross koller (Ross)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 11:03 am:   

well to me it looks like a porsche 996 from the front. i will reserve ultimate judgement until i see one, but at first glance i am not bowled over. in the 2+2 category there is a lot of competition, and some of the other stuff looks better -so far.
the hood scoop(s) are a good idea, plus bigger wheels. i agree that the accent line continuing into the grill is more distracting than pleasing. i hope the 575 and 360 replacements are stunning because i am starting to not be as excited by ferrari shapes as i am by some other companies.......
JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:25 am:   

BTW I saw the Bentley GTC in California and I must say it looks much smaller than the pictures, the interior is absolutely beautiful but the overall appearance reminded me of an Audi TT. The front bumper is huge and would last about 1/2 hour in NYC.
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:18 am:   

The drawing from the front was definitely more radical...

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Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:16 am:   

Here ya go...

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JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:14 am:   

This mistake will cause the car to become an instant collectors item just like mistamped coins or postage stamps !
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:09 am:   

> ..a little mistake, isn't it ? ;-)

Yeah, I'm hoping they update those plates before my Stradale... but Murphy probably says they put nothing in my car because they don't want an out-of-date plate and the new ones aren't ready yet... that'll make me mad.
JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:08 am:   

Jim,
I am glad you ask that question. Okay let's put it this way I know it is the ultimate V12 and the emblem on the hood is a prancing horse, but is it worth $150K more than my Maserati Coupe F1. I guess I can only answer this after I see one in the flesh and test drive it. Nobody realizes the value the Maser coupe 2+2 F1 offers.(forget 2 golf bags! you can barely fit one in the trunk.
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:08 am:   

The front end has a nice grin to it!
William H (Countachxx)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:07 am:   

the cockpit & instruments are very cool< Andrews last photo looks a little GTO. Dont the side scallops remind you of the 53 Corvette ? :-)
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:02 am:   

Artistic impression by Ferrari King ( not the Ferrari king from Fchat though lol ! :-)

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DanPic (Danp)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 10:01 am:   

The front, with the fender crease/headlight placement/wide grill all remind of a 996 for some reason......
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:53 am:   

OK Serious Question. Is anyone here going to buy one?
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:49 am:   

I like it!!

Note to self: Earn/beg/borrow/steal more money so I can afford this thing...

Dom
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:39 am:   

I like it a lot! But I LOVE that 375MM! I want to see it in silver, then in black and red.
Dan 360 (Dan360)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:33 am:   

I think the Ferrari 2+2 has always been a marginal seller because of all the F-cars it makes the least "sense" - to the extent that any F-car makes sense. The 4-seats, dual purpose nature of the car means that its easy to point out countless other cars (not least Mercs) that are "superior" and much cheaper.

However, I for one am glad that they still make a car like this. I personally think it looks fab (maybe diff wheels), and I'm sure that the world has enough people who don't care that a bentley is better/cheaper.

I'm sure Ferrari is intending selling a lot less of these than the 360/575 replacements.

I expect that we'll see the new wheel and air-con sections in the next 360...

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Lionel Jaquet (Swissmaserati)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:33 am:   

...a little mistake, isn't it ? ;-)

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Lionel
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:31 am:   

Doody
I've got one of those in my Maser and I still bet they're sniffing glue. (Which is what the clutches smell like if you try to paralel park it in auto.)
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:21 am:   

Awesome design, great interior! Wheels may be too small and narrow, but (as mentioned) easily fixed. Definitely looks better than 456GT, and that was a great design to begin with. Definitely a winner. Much better looking than the Continental GT, with MUCH better interior.

Ernesto
Dave (Maranelloman)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:10 am:   

GREAT motor. Nice location, too (aft of the front wheels). 1800+ kgs? And this is an all-aluminum car? IT'S HEAVIER THAN MY 550! How can that be???

Cheesy, cluttered interior not reflective of a $240,000 2+2 touring car. In fact, from the pictures, I have seen better interiors in an entry level Lexus.

Front wheels (18") way too small; should match rear 19" wheels.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:10 am:   

the Continental GT is gonna be a neat car, james. and they apparently plan to produce it like a real car. you won't have to wait two years to get one. a friend of mine is getting one - can't wait to play!

now that you guys mention it, the wheels could do with some up-sizing, though that's perhaps an easy fix. i don't find the interior problematic. it's a lux gt cruiser - i think it looks like a lux gt cruiser.

supposedly, the newest F1 trannies have nearly automatic smoothness. the QP guys SWEAR it's a non-issue. we'll have to wait and see......

doody.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 9:01 am:   

I'm with Andrew. The interior is poor. The wheels are too small. The fender crease wich they borrowed from the P4 BTW calls attention to itself rather than being an accent esp. where it continues through the headlights into the grill which IMHO would look better as an oval.
The trans is also a huge mistake. Luxury buyers want the option of a butter smooth fully automatic trans and the F1 in auto mode isn't.
When Bentley is offering a better looking, more powerfull, faster coupe with a better trans for 125K less this car isn't something I'd buy.
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 8:35 am:   

Can someone post/find the earlier "official" concept drawing that was posted -- want to check 2 points:
1. On the real thing, is the windshield more upright?
and
2. On the real thing, is there (much, much) more sheet metal between the top of the rear tire and the top of the C-pillar?
(My recollection is that those earlier drawings are much more "radical" than this.)
Will 575 (Willh)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 8:17 am:   

I agree with others here - a big step towards flowing elegance, they could have been even bolder in that regard IMO, I also liked the drama of the sketches.
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 8:06 am:   

> Am I the only one that thinks that the front bonnet looks like you can buy it from
> your local Porsche dealer? I mean it just looks exactly the same as the one on a 996?

Well, the bonnet itself... yes, very 996 like. But everything that surrounds it is different... the lines on the top of the fencers running through the headlights is very different... and those lines running down into and around the front grill is completely different, and very un-Porsche-like. However, some small element to break up that bonnet might have been good (e.g., 375MM has such).

But actually, I like the front pretty well... its the side that seems uninspired to me. The line is too linear along the top... too sedan-like... it doesn't say "sportscar".

I would have maintained the curve they started going over the front wheel, somewhat paralleling the top line of the side scallop, making the top of the door (where it becomes glass) a few inches lower, and then smoothly mimic that same curve over the rear wheel, giving it some hips. I think that would have given it the classic, sportscar look, cleanly separating its side-view from the common sedan look. IOW, mix in a little 250 GTO into the side lines. Actually, the earlier drawing of the 612 shows more of what I am talking about... though I'd have still gone a bit more 250.
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:31 am:   

"...a new generation electro-hydraulic set-up, known as the F1A"

Things that make you go hmmmm...

Enjoy the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
Niels Schouten (250lm)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:31 am:   

Am I the only one that thinks that the front bonnet looks like you can buy it from your local Porsche dealer? I mean it just looks exactly the same as the one on a 996????

Joop van der Meer (Jhjvdm)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:23 am:   

I wouldn't be surprised if 612 stands for 6 litres 12 cylinders, the same system as with the old 512
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:17 am:   

456 * 12 = 5.5L :-)
Owen Rothwell (Rothchops)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:17 am:   

Doody
The 456 name refers to the displacement of each cylinder. ie 456 cc x 12 gives total engine capacity. 612 returns to the old style of 6 litres, 12 cylinders like the 308, 328 and 348. Although the 355 is 3.5 litre, 5 valves per cylinder! And the 360 is simply 3.6 litres, like the 550 and 575. Confused?
Michael Zaic (Mikez_nj)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 7:14 am:   

612 vs. 375MM

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Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 6:47 am:   

Doody,

I agree - seeing the car in the flesh is key. WHen the 360 came out, I thought it looked confused at best, trying ot be a different car from different angles. In the skin, however, things were dramatically different.

The naming convention is a bit bizarre, agreed. Who knows what the motivation is.

As for a 575 replacement - as soon as one is set, you can be sure my deposit will be in place. :-) In the meanwhile, a chopped 550 sounds good...

--Dan
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 6:39 am:   

isn't this a departure in naming conventions? it's 5.7L but they're rounding it to "6"? i assume "456" was "4-seat 5.6L" or something like that? why not 457 or 458? i like that they include a name now (scaglietti).

the hood is less aggressive than the sketches. i really liked the hood on the sketches.

interesting. i'm not blown over just yet, but i didn't like the enzo or the 360 initially, and both have grown on me, so i'll reserve hyper-critical commentary for the moment :-)

bobafett - nobody seems to have even soft data on the 575 replacement. the rumors i've heard though are 456 replacement, then 575 replacement, then 360 replacement - all in a row, staggered by roughly one year between them.

doody.
Manu (Manu)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 6:38 am:   

Spec is really impressive.
The car (particularly the front) looks a tiny bit awkward but I'll reserve full judgement on the looks until I see one in the flesh..
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 6:05 am:   

Dan , i like it for a supercar track orientated etc..but for a GT , i wnat all my gauges !!
Ermin Trevisan (Trevi)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:54 am:   

very impressive car!
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:50 am:   

Transmission could be mounted a la 550? Couple that with rear seats, and it becomes ass-heavy? WHo knows...

Ben: glad to see I'm not the only one up at 4! :-)

--Dan
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:49 am:   

I like it! Quite a bit!

Though I like the 456 a little better. But 540hp, wooah!

46/54 f/r? on a FRONT eng car? impressive to say the absolute least... (did they get those #s backwards?)

And is it me, or are there two different headlights shown?

Best!
Ben.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:45 am:   

So when's the 575 replacement due? This is a good sign of things to come.

Andrew: the guages are very Enzo-esque. You don't like? I agree about the wheels. The front bonnet looks kind of Z8-ish, but then both hark back to classic designs, so that's completely understandable.

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:44 am:   

Where are all the gauges ? !!! That dashboard isnt very sexy ! And those wheels are way too small for the design.
Vaughan (Vanimal)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:43 am:   

Sign me up (after the lottery win that is) I WANT one
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:32 am:   

IMO, its styling is definitely a step up from the 456, and it turned out better than some of the early drawings... however, I was hoping for a little more distinctiveness... a little more 375MM perhaps.

Anyone know if its destined to be available as a Spider? (My four-seater needs to be topless.)
J R K (Kenyon)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:28 am:   

Very nice it has classic lines...
luciano favero (Ontogenetic1007)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:19 am:   

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the world may be in color but b/w is more realistic (wim wenders)

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Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:17 am:   

From the Owners' website:


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The new Ferrari 612 Scaglietti

The 612 Scaglietti is the perfect marriage of sporty thoroughbred Ferrari berlinetta performance and excellent onboard comfort for four occupants. The replacement for the highly successful 456M, the new model�s own winning combination derives from a roomy interior enhanced by significantly larger dimensions, a 60 kg reduction in weight, and a range of uncompromising design solutions. The 612 Scaglietti�s most significant features include:

- All-aluminium space frame chassis and bodywork construction used for the very first time on a Ferrari 12-cylinder and built entirely by Ferrari at the Scaglietti light-alloy technologies facility. The result is a massive 60% increase in overall structural rigidity (rigidity-weight ratio). The 612 Scaglietti�s advanced aluminium construction also translates into improved comfort and handling, in addition to offering maximum occupant protection in the case of a collision.

- A mid-front layout with the engine mounted behind the front axle, and the gearbox and differential in unit at the rear ensure that the centre of gravity is kept as far back and as low as possible. This in turn significantly improves the car�s dynamics in terms of performance (0-100 km/h in 4.2 seconds), stability and braking efficiency, as well as delivering much nimbler handling. Excellent weight distribution (46% front, 54% rear) is enhanced by a performance-oriented handling set-up with active damping and the special CST stability and traction control system, used here for the very first time on a Ferrari.

- A 65� V12 engine with a displacement of 5,748cc which is rounded off to give the figure 6 (litres) in the 612 model designation. The V12 represents the very pinnacle of Ferrari engine design, thanks in particular to improved fluid dynamic characteristics of the intake and exhaust manifolds, generating a blistering 540bhp at 7,250 rpm. The six-speed mechanical gearbox is available with both a manual and a new generation electro-hydraulic set-up, known as the F1A, designed to marry fast manual gear shifting with comfortable automatic use.

Designed by Pininfarina to epitomise dynamism and elegance, the 612 Scaglietti boasts characteristic scalloped sides that recall the famous 375 MM bodied by the Turin coachbuilder for Rossellini and used by Ingrid Bergman. Its thoroughbred spirit effortlessly combines with outstanding comfort and space on board, from the ease of entry for all four occupants and the notable legroom (helped by an increase in length of 139 mm compared to the 456M), to the excellent rear seating layout with extra headroom. Lastly, the overall roominess of the 612 Scaglietti is complemented by a 240-litre luggage compartment - a full 25% larger than the 456M�s - which can hold a five-piece Ferrari luggage set or two golf bags.

The level of on-board comfort is completed with a range of new generation of ergonomic features: the instrument binnacle and steering wheel-mounted commands designed for maximum driver control, dual-zone climate control, and a Hi-End Bose sound system specifically developed for the 612 Scaglietti�s sophisticated aluminium and leather interior which can, naturally, be fully personalised on request.




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Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1598
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:16 am:   

Interesting that they used the outer 'centers' as amber indicators. I think I will rewire the 550 to do the same.

--Dan

PS: Anyone also think that the rear view looks a bit too Maser 3200?
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1597
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:12 am:   

Thanks Andrew. By the way, check your hotmail account.

--Dan
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 1637
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:11 am:   

Dan go here
http://speed.supercars.net/Board?viewThread=y&fID=3&tID=83356
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1595
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:07 am:   

Too lazy to join; can anyone save / upload the pictures here?

--Dan
Mark Langfield (Ferrari_co_uk)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrari_co_uk

Post Number: 107
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:02 am:   

Another reason to join www.owners.ferrari.com !

Best
Mark
Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member
Username: Bobafett

Post Number: 1593
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 5:01 am:   

Glad to see the center grill is not the split corner style like the 360 / Enzo. I was afraid all of the cars would be heading in that direction stylistically.

--Dan
JM Zarka (Crazy_horse)
Junior Member
Username: Crazy_horse

Post Number: 79
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2003 - 4:44 am:   

This morning the Ferrari owner website is premiering actual pictures of the 456M replacement.A little too early for me to comment but I figured everyone would want to knowUpload

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