| Author | Message | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 403 Registered: 3-2001 |
James...I'm with you. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 580 Registered: 10-2001 |
Looks lile Ferrari is stuck in the Dot Com era .. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 774 Registered: 11-2001 |
wow - i didn't realize it was that restrictive. i kinda assumed you had "access" for a year (or some substantial portion thereof). $20K per race is real money, and not being able to use it otherwise seems like a bummer. i agree with you james - pick up a nice inexpensive track car and enjoy the heck out of it. doody. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 572 Registered: 10-2002 |
Matt IMHO there are a lot of people sniffing glue these days. NYT 360 spyders are down to 175, coupes at 145, Barchetta's 290. Nice track cars are a lot less. Many are not seeing where things are and where they may be going. I bet you can have a lot more days of fun racing for a lot less than that. Best Jim | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 400 Registered: 3-2001 |
Doody...I read about the Maser series in the Forza. I can't believe what I read! It costs 120,000 (appx $130,000) for a 7 race season. It does not include the costs for mechanical or cosmetic damage. You do NOT have any ownership of the car. Yeah...great....nice lunches and pampering for your wife...but at $20,000/weekend. I will be very suprised if the series makes it to next season. And to top it off.....since you do not own the car...and the dealers ALWAYS keep the cars during non-race times....you can not use it for club events or similiar type events. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 773 Registered: 11-2001 |
i know FSpA announced the maserati challenge (or whatever they're calling) upcoming setup, and it doesn't involve buying a car. you basically work with your dealer and you rent a car, crew, etc. it was something like $150K or $200K a year (i really don't recall - sorry) and included some nice stuff, like backup car accessibility. my understanding is that the ferrari challenge series has been decimated of late. i know i heard noises that people were hoping they'd reconfigure it like the maserati stuff. do folks think it'd be a more desirable setup? you wouldn't own the car, but you'd in theory get more and better support, etc. doody. | ||
| s.c.davis (360c)
New member Username: 360c Post Number: 3 Registered: 1-2003 |
What is the current market value of a 360 Challenge? Does anyone have examples of recent sales? There are several for sale in Melbourne at the moment; but the prices seem more than a little optimistic. | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 233 Registered: 11-2002 |
I managed Challenge race cars from '94 to '00. In 2000 the costs were roughly an average of $250,000 for the car, new, prepped and fit to driver, really, really race ready. The season, with testing, lots of testing, minor damage to cosmetics, typical mechanical maintenance cost about $250,000. Your actual mileage may vary, but that's what I told customers to budget, so they'd be prepared during the season for some large repair orders coming their way. Yes, of course you can do it for less, this also included a top line hospitality coach/lounge and other amenities. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 508 Registered: 5-2001 |
Why aren't they going to Atlanta this year? | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 253 Registered: 9-2001 |
Europe seems to be a little cheaper! The mechanic of my official dealer told me that one season with the Ferrari challenge would cost roughly 500.000 DM which would be around 250.000 Euro these days. This included spare parts and I think it�s far enough for one season. With this money you could easily buy two new 360 Modena street cars here in Germany. So the challenge series is clearly something for millionaires and people who can bring a generous sponsor (Keep in mind that this is the amount of money for several races of fun, not for several years!). Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 573 Registered: 10-2001 |
Jon , thanks a lot for the info !! Its really expensive over there ! Here in France it costs around 30 000 $ per year without the car of course . Do you still have your 355 C ? If yes , when do you use it when not attending Ferrari club events ? Thanks . | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3825 Registered: 5-2001 |
Bummer Davind, those nice curves....oh wait, you are going to Cancun, there is plenty of those out there as well!  Might I suggest to rent a Jeep and drive yourself to Chichinitza (or however the **** you spell that). Great day trip and great site to visit. Can be found by car yourself. | ||
| David Burch (Merlyn)
New member Username: Merlyn Post Number: 43 Registered: 8-2002 |
FCA is having some track time between heats at the challenge race at Sears 3/7-9/03. I'm taking my 355F1, and a friend is taking his F40. Ferrari SF said they will have an Enzo there on Sunday. Should be fun, unfortunatly I'm leaving for Cancun early sunday, so I may not get to see the Enzo. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 433 Registered: 8-2001 |
Andrew, Including car it's about 300-350K but this is a bare bones minimum with no crash damage. For a breakdown of costs see the thread below. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/14/48020.html Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 418 Registered: 11-2001 |
Eli, By comparison, Lime Rock is a better place to view a race because of the beauty of the area, and also because LRP is a road course. Homestead is an oval. Please keep me posted if you plan on coming to SoFla! | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 572 Registered: 10-2001 |
Whats the bottom price to enter the Challenge ? | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 320 Registered: 4-2002 |
thanks Howie. i am also trying to go to the Homestead Fl in April. | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 417 Registered: 11-2001 |
Eli, I highly suggest you attend the Lime Rock event. Besides the races, there's plenty to enjoy in the Berkshires. | ||
| Toby T (Tobyt)
Junior Member Username: Tobyt Post Number: 76 Registered: 3-2002 |
The USGP is week ending September 28,2003. The challenge cars are on the track Friday, Sat, and Sun. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 318 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tillman, here is the schedule: FERRARI CHALLENGE � FERRARI DAYS 2003 January 21st � 26th Cavallino Classics Moroso, Florida Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge March, 7-9th Infineon Raceway, Sears Point California (near San Francisco) 360 Challenge Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge Dealer and Customer event April 4-6th Homestead International Speedeway Miami, Florida 360 Challenge Dealer and Customer event June 13th � 15th Circuit Gilles Villeneuve Montreal, Canada F1, 360 Challenge June 27th � 29th Mont Tremblant, Canada Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge July 10th � 12th Lime Rock Park Lakeville, CT 360 Challenge Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge Dealer and Customer event August 10th � 13th Rally of the Sierra Nevada September19 � 21st Texas World Speedway 360 Challenge � Customer event October 18th � 19th Mugello, Italy FNA and International Finals 360 Challenge Shell Ferrari Maserati Historic Challenge | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 381 Registered: 11-2001 |
I've looked on the Ferrari.com Challenge page and cannot find the 2003 US schedule. Does anyone know where I might find it? | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 659 Registered: 10-2001 |
I've been to the Ferrari Challenge at Road Atlanta and Virginia International Raceway. My favorites are the Ferrari Vintage races...usually many significant historic cars present. I'm looking to be at the Ferrari Challenge at Lime Rock this year. The schedule for this year is cut way back from previous years... | ||
| Toby T (Tobyt)
Junior Member Username: Tobyt Post Number: 75 Registered: 3-2002 |
I see then every year at the USGP in Indy. Great to watch race and you can get "up close" in the pit area. | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 416 Registered: 11-2001 |
Eli, I used to go to Lime Rock to watch the Challenge Series. I really enjoyed it. They also had Ferrari vintage type races which included Ferrari race cars which were even more enjoyable. The paddocks, parking lots are full of Ferraris. Very fun overall experience. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 317 Registered: 4-2002 |
Has anyone ever attended any of the Ferrari challenge races in the past. any feedback? |