| Author | Message | ||
| Mark Pautz (Malfark)
Junior Member Username: Malfark Post Number: 205 Registered: 10-2002 |
Thanks for the reply Jack, |b{MARK} | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2678 Registered: 12-2000 |
Jack: "...Is it still around as far as you know?" I have no idea (probably not...). | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 103 Registered: 4-2003 |
Dom, mystery resolved. You've got mail. Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hans, you've got mail. Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 101 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Dom, that's really weird as I do get requests from others. Email is simple, just add "sales@" to the website name. Best, Jack FerrariStuff.com | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1122 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jack: I also recently submitted info for my '75 308GT4, #10280. Did you get it? Hans. | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member Username: Dom Post Number: 138 Registered: 11-2002 |
I just tried submitting again, and this is what I got: Below is what you submitted to [email protected] on Monday, April, 21, 2003 at 18:41:17 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- name: Dom Vitarella model: 308GT4 sn: 10688 Scan: Yes Include: Yes Newsletter: Yes comments: I'm trying it again. Thanks! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member Username: Dom Post Number: 137 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hi Jack, Your e-mail address is not in your profile. Yes, when I submitted it, I got the screen with the data I submitted. Strange... | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 100 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Dom, still didn't receive it. Are you getting the screen with the data that you have submitted after you have clicked "Submit"? Otherwise, just email me (see profile). Regards, Jack www.FerrariStuff.com | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member Username: Dom Post Number: 134 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jack, I just resubmitted the info. Thanks, Dom | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 95 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Dom, I did not receive the request. Could you please submit it again? I do have some data on your car. Jack | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member Username: Dom Post Number: 133 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hi Jack, Thanks for the offer to provide info. I submitted a request for my 1975 308 GT4 # 10688. Thanks, Dom | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 74 Registered: 4-2003 |
... which is NOT in the archive.... :-( Is it still around as far as you know? Jack | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2677 Registered: 12-2000 |
07202 was the first 308 GT4. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 73 Registered: 4-2003 |
Oh boy... I guess that means more scanning and delving through the archive huh? ;-) Do you happen to know the lowest S/N of the 308 GT/4? I quickly went through the archive and found S/N 8662 which had been advertised as a "1974 European, race ready" car in FML 6/12. Any S/N's lower than that? Jack | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2676 Registered: 12-2000 |
Jack, its been discussed here before and a few have gone and built model-specific registers (myself included, although nothing's up yet - still on paper http://www.dino-gt4-registry.com). More on the subject: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/195993.html http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/202584.html http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/211869.html http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/195758.html | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 70 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Peter, more cars always welcomed! Is there any interest here to set up a REALLY good online register of F-cars? Jack | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 265 Registered: 8-2001 |
Eric, Yes it is the same as mine (the one by Dr.R. Marvin) | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2669 Registered: 12-2000 |
Jack, thanks for the info on my car, I appreciate it  And I just checked out your Zagato site - neat stuff. I noticed one of the 1300 Junior Z's is a local car and I noticed a local 2600Z is missing (I'll have to put you in touch with the owner...). | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 66 Registered: 4-2003 |
Talking about 330 Americas and 330 GT 2+2 prototypes... Going through the file, I found that the engine of 5125GT, last of the 330 Americas, was transplanted into 4085GT, the third 330 GT 2+2 prototype. barchetta.cc simply mentions that 5125GT has been parted out and that the engine is in a 330 GT 2+2. They list no info in 4085GT other than it being a prototype. Assuming that 4085GT was a protype that was built under factory command, one COULD assume that they (the factory) also ordered the "butchering" of 5125GT... Is that assumption correct? Jack | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 4457 Registered: 12-2000 |
Wayne, I got to see and get a ride in 330 2+2 5411. Evidently it has had an America badge on it since it left the scuderia. Explanation I heard was that the first few cars of a new model would sometimes use the left over parts from the previous model. A 4 headlight 330 2+2 is pretty obviously not an America. | ||
| Lee Hamner (Tennlee)
New member Username: Tennlee Post Number: 33 Registered: 2-2002 |
Just submitted... thanks a bunch! | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 50 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi Peter & Jeff, www.zagato-cars.com will up and running again within a couple of days. Although that originally started out as a site for the Alfa Romeo Junior Zagato, I have already added a register for the AR 2600 SZ and see no reason why the Appia's wouldn't also fit in there provided I have a decent basis to start from. So Jeff, should the US Appia Z register all of a sudden "fall from the sky into my lap", I'll gladly add it. BTW Peter, you've got mail. Best regards, Jack | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2666 Registered: 12-2000 |
Hmmm... Your name sounds familiar... I'm sending you an email... | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Junior Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 241 Registered: 12-2002 |
Peter: I used to run the Lancia Appia Zagato register in the US, I still have a very great deal of info on file. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2665 Registered: 12-2000 |
Jack: "...I also run the register on Alfa Romeo's with Zagato bodies and the number of previously unaccounted for TZ's is growing by the day..." Do you also collect S/N's for Lancia Appia GTE Zagatos? | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 49 Registered: 4-2003 |
P.S. 6413 GT is NOT listed in this archieve. Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 48 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hehehehe.... Keep guessing Wayne... I am almost certain that it is "simply" a 250 GT/L and that the other ones were typos in the ads or misread by the one that compiled the register. Jack | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1461 Registered: 8-2002 |
Please do. Let me take one more guess first, though. This one's a stretch... 6413 GT is a 330 GT 2+2 that is badged as a "330 America." Thinking this could've caused some confusion, maybe? Then again, that wouldn't account for the "250 GT/L" thing, would it? Oh well, please include it! | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 47 Registered: 4-2003 |
Wayne, want me to include a scan of the card with the next batch? Jack | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1460 Registered: 8-2002 |
Chassis number "4997 GT" should belong to a 330 America, but it doesn't. The car is actually a prototype 330 GT 2+2. There has been some confusion as a result. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 46 Registered: 4-2003 |
Nope, it isn't. 4997 is simply listed as a red / tan 330 GT America. Jack | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1459 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, I was going to ask about the s/n of that mixed up car. Is it 4997 GT? | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2003 |
Period? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1458 Registered: 8-2002 |
. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1014 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jack, there's nothing fishy about that at all. One third of the frame went under one car, one third under another car, and so on. But with all the rust and accumulated dirt, I bet some of those VIN tags fell right off. What a shame! | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2003 |
Just found the first "cherry".... A S/N (nope, not telling WHICH one...) that has been advertised over the years for: 1) a 330 GT 2+2 2) a 250 GT/L 3) a 330 GT America Oooops.... Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 37 Registered: 4-2003 |
Arlie, I believe that "destroyed" cars are equally important to a register as concours cars. It is always good to know what has happened to a car , especially when all of a sudden that model is "back from the ashes by popular demand". Jack | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1007 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jack, my car was probably just one that "once was" and added to somebody's register. I'm sure there are more "matching numbers" cars in existance than the factories ever produced!!! | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 750 Registered: 11-2001 |
Tino...is your book the same one as featured in the following eBay auction, called the "Ferrari Register Ferrari Data Bank"?... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411845993&category=6212 | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>>But my car had been totaled out in 1967 here in Arkansas. So don't know how my car's serial number ended up on his list. Typo error maybe? Was it a 1957 Corvette "Phoenix" that was resurrected from the ashes? Maybe it was just added to the register as a "once was a 57 Corvette but has been totalled" to keep the list complete? Maybe somebody just swapped the S/N with the one on the 57 he had just stolen? Oooops... I also run the register on Alfa Romeo's with Zagato bodies and the number of previously unaccounted for TZ's is growing by the day... Not bad for a car of which only little over 100 pcs were ever built. I guess we all know what that means in Ferrari land... >>>Wonder how many of those Ferraris are still around? Good question. My best guess: No idea... Jack | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1006 Registered: 5-2002 |
And they beheld the knowledge of the ancients, and their eyes were filled with awe and wonderment! Just take everything with a grain of salt. I was researching the history of my 1957 Corvette, and my car's serial number appeared on a register that a guy was compiling in New York back in 1974. But my car had been totaled out in 1967 here in Arkansas. So don't know how my car's serial number ended up on his list. Typo error maybe? Wonder how many of those Ferraris are still around? | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2003 |
OK, here is a picture of what it looked like when I opened the box in which it arrived.... It has been in this box since December 28, 1989. Jack  | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 28 Registered: 4-2003 |
Nope, it is NOT the red register compiled by Robert marvin. This is a handwritten register on index cards and was compiled during a ca. 30 year period. Jack | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 264 Registered: 8-2001 |
I believe this is the (red folder)Register prepared in the mid-80's by someone in Florida. We had discussed this publication a couple of months ago on this board; I have a copy and find the information very limited. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 27 Registered: 4-2003 |
Yes, it is. Submit it through the form mentioned below and I'll relay the info (it's not much but at least something) as I don't want to through everything over the net here. Jack | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1018 Registered: 10-2002 |
Is 0846 included? | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 26 Registered: 4-2003 |
Wayne, you have mail. Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 25 Registered: 4-2003 |
There is also more info on the lower S/N's than the higher ones. The stack of paper on S/N 001 - 1499 is about 50% higher than that on 20000 - 40000.... Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 24 Registered: 4-2003 |
OK, some more info: It was compiled in the USA so some (or a lot?) of European cars might not be accounted for. The highest S/N I can find is 40965 (a 308 GTSi). No info on any S/N's higher than that. Best regards, Jack | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 290 Registered: 10-2002 |
I've submitted my information, as well... Thanks, Jack! | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 22 Registered: 4-2003 |
Rijk & Matt, you both have mail. Jack | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1457 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jack, you've got mail. | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 3919 Registered: 8-2002 |
me too! | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 165 Registered: 1-2002 |
I just submitted my information Thank you | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi All, just wanted to let you know that we have unearthed an important Ferrari data archive / register which was maintained from the 1950's to the mid-1980's. I have no view yet on how complete it is but it is a LOT of paperwork with apparently most S/N's accounted for (will have to take exact inventory to find out how complete it really is). The data includes mostly serial numbers, colors, sometimes additional info like "last one imported" etc and some ownership details, advertised prices and literature references. I have done some random checks with the register on Barchetta.cc and there are interesting differences / additions... I'll try to add all the information to our website as soon as time permits but this could be a couple of years work depending on how busy you guys keep us... For the time being, I would be more than happy to share the information with current owners on a request basis. I have added a "Ferrari Register Page" to our website where you will find a form that you can submit online and I'll dig through the register and see what I can come up with. Hope that you guys (and girls !) appreciate this. Best regards, Jack Habits www.FerrariStuff.com |