| Author | Message | ||
| Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355 Post Number: 382 Registered: 8-2002 |
condolences and sympathies to all... :-( | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3908 Registered: 9-2001 |
con saluti cordialissimmi - I will miss this | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 67 Registered: 9-2002 |
May they rest in peace, | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3907 Registered: 9-2001 |
I can't beleive this  While I had never met them I feel like a friend has died. I always followed Jens posts especially related to organizing this event, he basically did everything a travel agent would do to pull it together. He was so excited. I also had several correspondence with Amar about the UK and ferraris. He was a true tifoso who would drive his 360 all over europe | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4912 Registered: 5-2001 |
A sad day for Ferrari Chat! | ||
| JT (Mightymagician)
Junior Member Username: Mightymagician Post Number: 78 Registered: 11-2002 |
This is tragic news. i didnt know them, but i feel terrible. my thoughts and prayers are with their families. | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 1288 Registered: 12-2002 |
How horrible I dont even know what to say It just doesn't seem like this could ever happen to anybody here. | ||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 122 Registered: 8-2002 |
horrible tragic, tragic my sincerest sympathies to the families, friends, Amar's fiancee. "con saluti cordialissimmi," gentlemen | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 810 Registered: 12-2001 |
OMG! My condolences and prayers for them and their families. This is so horrible. | ||
| Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member Username: Arizonaguy Post Number: 265 Registered: 4-2003 |
This is really sad My condolences to their families. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4910 Registered: 5-2001 |
May enzo greet them whereever they are! | ||
| David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member Username: Rodsky Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2003 |
This is terrible - really hits you in the stomach. Prayers to their families. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4740 Registered: 8-2002 |
My condolences. May they rest in peace. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2070 Registered: 4-2002 |
MY PRAYERS ALSO..TERRIBLE TRAGEDY I THINK JENS HAD A CUTE DAUGHTER, DONT KNOW IF HE WAS MARRIED OR DIVORCED.. SORRY,,,,,,,,,,, | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 238 Registered: 7-2002 |
I've just read the Europe section, this is truly a sad day. My prayers are extended to the friends and family for their loss. Wade | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3906 Registered: 9-2001 |
Terrible, I am in shock, I know that Amar had a fiance and I am not sure if Jens was married | ||
| TC (Houston) (Tec)
Junior Member Username: Tec Post Number: 117 Registered: 2-2002 |
Oh no. That is terrible news. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 618 Registered: 2-2002 |
Very sorry to hear the confirmation on this. Our prayers and thoughts go out to the families. | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
Junior Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2003 |
May they rest in peace. They are in my prayers. | ||
| Andre Vieira (Goggles_pisano)
Junior Member Username: Goggles_pisano Post Number: 99 Registered: 5-2002 |
This is awful. | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 237 Registered: 7-2002 |
I just spoke to a journalist friend in Germany and he is going to try and get some answers for me. I should here from him in a couple of hours. Lets prepare for the worst and pray for the best. Our friends are certainly in our thoughts. Wade | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 928 Registered: 1-2002 |
I don't know what to say. I missed Amar at Monaco. Who could have guessed. This really is terrible. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1340 Registered: 8-2001 |
I think we have confirmation in the Europe section. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3905 Registered: 9-2001 |
was the dinner reservation cancelled or did they not show up? I doubt if this happen anyone would have worried about cancelling the reservation | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 5393 Registered: 8-2002 |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666) Formula 3 Username: Sharky666 Post Number: 422 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:38 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hello All, Just got back from Bonn. As I've seen you already heard the news. Like you all read, there's no need to come to the nordschleife anymore. Jens and Amar both passed away The car somehow flipped over and caught fire. They didn't got out. There will be more info later on, tommorow orso. Best whishes, Bart Boonacker | ||
| Tyson Hall (Trhall)
Junior Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 70 Registered: 6-2003 |
I agree Tom | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3904 Registered: 9-2001 |
lets wait for confirmation, hold out hope | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4907 Registered: 5-2001 |
Indeed it looks like Jens and Amar. Wolfgang is trying to get in touch with them over cell and can not get a hold of them. Both! I tried Jens and no answer. He is also not home, left a message there. The group checked out of the hotel, Jens was no a guest. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3902 Registered: 9-2001 |
ton has a 328 and Amar a UK 360 plate number w979ujb | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 927 Registered: 1-2002 |
So, we believe Amar and Jens were the two involved? This is terrible!!!! | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 5382 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mark posted this on the Euro section Mark Collins (Markcollins) Formula 3 Username: Markcollins Post Number: 266 Registered: 7-2002 Posted on Friday, June 20, 2003 - 3:09 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Not much more info yet but from the Ringers list I am sorry to report that there was a bad smash this afternoon, we were chatting at about 14.45 in the car park when a newish looking 360? modena with UK plates left the gates, we were talking about the fact that they don't handle, are better in the car park etc etc.. at about 15.00 a closure was declared, Caz was with us and her mobile started to ring, it was Jocke, he arrived 20 - 30 seconds after it happened, he came over flugplatz and saw the smoke from the burning 360. It had spun out at S-Kruez landed on it's roof, and caught on fire. They have just said on local radio that the driver was English and the passenger was a German. They both died. It seems to confirm it was a UK Modena 360 | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1937 Registered: 7-2001 |
Did anyone see this post from last week? It sounds a little ominous now.... Ton Visser (Lion315) Formula 3 Username: Lion315 Post Number: 613 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, June 12, 2003 - 3:14 pm: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Guy, I know how you feel. Life can end around the corner. The same thing happened to me. It also made me think about the unpredictable side of our lives. For that reason I decided to buy my Ferrari now instead of in a couple of years. Live your life to the max! Ton | ||
| David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member Username: Rodsky Post Number: 66 Registered: 3-2003 |
Holy shXt - this is bad. Does anyone know the people who went with them? Are they on F-CHAT? I hope they are OK - and we hear soon. | ||
| DGS (Dgs)
Junior Member Username: Dgs Post Number: 81 Registered: 5-2003 |
"Nordschleife" - North Loop. Part of the full Nurburgring. Open to the public at certain times. http://www.nuerburgring.de/ | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 103 Registered: 4-2003 |
According to this thread Jens was 28 back in Feb. Oh no, it better not be him. I always enjoy what he has to say and I pray for his safe return. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/251280/206818.html | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3901 Registered: 9-2001 |
Jim There is a race track in germany which allows you to pull up and drive on it. I beleive part of it is used for the f-1 race, anyway for about 6 months Jens has organized a f-chat members gathering there for today and the rest of the weekend, now we here this | ||
| John Wise (Jwise)
New member Username: Jwise Post Number: 31 Registered: 4-2003 |
All involved in this tragic event are in my thoughts. This is horrible news. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 1450 Registered: 7-2002 |
I hope it is not them and I pray for whoever it was. I don't mean to be disrespecful, but what were they involved in over there? I don't know what the Nordschleife is. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4735 Registered: 8-2002 |
i hope this is all coincidental and they're alright... We all need to hope for the best until we have some concrete information... i can't really make it to the next town, let alone help someone out half way around the world, but if there's anything i can do - you know, if someone just wants to talk, let me know... i'm a good listener... Please keep us updated. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1754 Registered: 10-2002 |
ttt | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 301 Registered: 2-2003 |
This is awful.....I hope it's not them!! I can't believe it.........Terrible......man, I've got to leave now, but I don't want to go, don't want to leave this thread..................... | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4902 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jens is 29! | ||
| DGS (Dgs)
Junior Member Username: Dgs Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2003 |
"Guys it does not look good. The restaurant they were supposed to eat tonight...the table was cancelled. The hotel they were staying in all of them checked out this afternoon." One of the articles mentioned that the loop is now closed. We can hope they're on their way home. | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 102 Registered: 4-2003 |
Somehow I remember Jens as around 32-33 from reading one of the posts. This is one time I hope I'm right on the spot. | ||
| "The Don" (The_don)
Senior Member Username: The_don Post Number: 5381 Registered: 8-2002 |
Oh my God. I will pray for them | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 888 Registered: 11-2001 |
Man...this is absolutely horrible news -- especially if it was indeed Jens and Amar!! This is truly saddening... | ||
| JT (Mightymagician)
Junior Member Username: Mightymagician Post Number: 76 Registered: 11-2002 |
man this does not sound good. i really hope they return safely. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3899 Registered: 9-2001 |
f$$K | ||
| Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Member Username: Pristines4 Post Number: 423 Registered: 12-2002 |
I can't believe this. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4901 Registered: 5-2001 |
I am not a big prayng man but right now it can not hurt! Unfortunately this does not look good. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4900 Registered: 5-2001 |
The article: "Zwei M�nner sterben auf dem N�rburgring Zwei Hobby-Rennfahrer sind auf der Nordschleife des N�rburgrings mit ihrem Sportwagen t�dlich verungl�ckt. Laut Polizei untersch�tzte der Fahrer, ein 44 Jahre alter Engl�nder, eine Kurve. Der Sportwagen �berschlug sich und fing Feuer. Neben dem Fahrer starb auch der 29-j�hrige Beifahrer, ein Deutscher. Die beiden hatten sich per Internet zu der Fahrt verabredet. " Translation: Two hobby racers crashed fatally on the Nuerburgrin with their sportscar. According to police the 44year old english driver underestimated a curve. The car rolled over and cought fire. Besides the driver a 29 year old passneger from germany dies as well. Both met over the internet and arranged for the drive. I am affraid this is not the best news we could hope for. | ||
| Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo Post Number: 617 Registered: 2-2002 |
Doesn't that article say that they arranged the trip over the internet also? Boy this doesn't look good I really hope all is fine with the F-chat brothers across the pond | ||
| Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
Junior Member Username: Bumboola Post Number: 103 Registered: 3-2003 |
Please, don't give up hope. Let us pray for their safe return. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4899 Registered: 5-2001 |
yes Tom. yes..... | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3898 Registered: 9-2001 |
Jens is fairly young, doesn't that article say a 29 year old german? I am getting chills | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4897 Registered: 5-2001 |
I am trying to call Jens as well on his cell. No news there. Left him a message at the house. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3897 Registered: 9-2001 |
in the other thread someone tried to call them on their mobiles with no answer. Any info on the piston head site? | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3896 Registered: 9-2001 |
shXt, I hope and pray they are all safe and having a beer at the hofbrau house | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4896 Registered: 5-2001 |
Guys it does not look good. The restaurant they were supposed to eat tonight...the table was cancelled. The hotel they were staying in all of them checked out this afternoon. I will try to find Jens's phone number and try to call him. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3895 Registered: 9-2001 |
does that say it was a brit and german - now I am really concerned | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4895 Registered: 5-2001 |
Tom for some strange reason 360 rings in my head. | ||
| Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 196 Registered: 6-2002 |
No words.... http://www.swr.de/nachrichten/rp/rpkurz.html#meldung0 | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3892 Registered: 9-2001 |
I know, what a coincidence, does anyone knoe what kind of car it was? I keep hearing that post over an over in my head "Wouldn't wanna miss this for the world. Went over the program again and there is just no possible way for this event to fail. (*knocks on wood*) | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4894 Registered: 5-2001 |
This was the attendance list last posted: Attendance list: Amar Inam,UK,F360 Modena Ulf Modig,SV,308qv Jens Haller,GER,348tb Becker Cuellar,US, 355 or F360 Modena Bart Boonacker,NL Roel de Fouw, NL Ton Visser,BEL,328GTS Bernhard Rowe,UK,355 GTB plus around 10 to 15 other Fcars from Heiko and it�s group at saturday. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4893 Registered: 5-2001 |
Gosh the timing is so bad. I mean a Ferrari from GB, the news was posted on Fr evening, meaning after the day when our Euro guys were on the Ring. My stomach is a knot right now. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 724 Registered: 8-2001 |
Martin, I think the number of fatalities is more on the order of a few every month. I may be wrong but I remember someone there telling me that they averaged about 1 motorcycle death per month or so. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 | ||
| Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 193 Registered: 6-2002 |
@Martin http://www.touristenfahrer.de/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1086 | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4891 Registered: 5-2001 |
Ansgar, where did you get the info from? I hear there is several fatalities at the Ring every year. Since it is rated a street it becomes street fatality statistic not race related. During races I believe there has not been a fatality for years. Hope its non of our guys. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 3886 Registered: 9-2001 |
I have been following the planning they have been doing for the event - i hope it was not someone on the board - | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1141 Registered: 10-2001 |
Ansgar , i read on some Nring fan english website that there hasnt been a fatal crash for years ? I hoped it was true ..didnt know the Ring was that dangerous !! | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1754 Registered: 11-2002 |
Oh my God this is terrible! | ||
| Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 192 Registered: 6-2002 |
Andrew, several people are killed each year on the Nordschleife. This crash is very fatal, because the first european ferrarichat meeting is running this days at the Nordschleife... | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1139 Registered: 10-2001 |
! What ? this is terrible ! There hasnt been a fatal crash at the ring for years ! I hope this isnt true! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1751 Registered: 10-2002 |
So do I... | ||
| Ansgar Sch�rmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 191 Registered: 6-2002 |
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/174013/192976.html?1056128977 |