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J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member
Username: Jeff
Post Number: 228
Registered: 2-2001
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 8:03 pm: | |
Noel
I believe the correct setting is 4.8. That is what Scottsdale Ferrari told me. I have a 2002 F1. I don't know if the settings are different for various model years? |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 384
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Friday, July 25, 2003 - 4:39 pm: | |
the pis setting was too low.
moved from 4.3 to 4.5
email me if anyone needs some color on this topic(if you come across this in the archives). |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 383
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:38 pm: | |
thanks Willis, the guys at LFSC(dealer) are talking about replacing the whole reverse mechanism...about 3.5k...great(sarcasm).
PS...called Sodacoms(sponser of this site) and they wanted 2.8k for the same part.
either way it sucks, oh well. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member
Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1402
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 11:10 am: | |
I've heard of this problem before. However, I've never encounter it in 20K+ miles of driving my '01 coupe. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 905
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 11:04 am: | |
"But when you have 20K mass produced Honda's out there that are more reliable than your 150-200K car"
It is a fact that the more of something that is produced, the fewer the number of problems. This is known as the manufacturing learning curve. The largest automotive section is the $30K range, you will find that cars in the price range are utterly reliable (at least the foreign ones). The combined output is on the order of 4 Million per year.
On the other hand, Ferrari make ~2,000 F1 transmissions per year (~4,000 if you count Maserati).
"I see it this way...when you have a 150-200K car that is hand built in limited numbers...It should be reliable, uber reliable. "
Then you are absolutely uneducated with respect to manufacturing issues. There are so few of these things built that each and every one will have DIFFERENT problems. Only when volums reach 100,000/year are manufacturing technologies brought to bear to get rid of all these problems. If you want a problem free car, buy a Toyota, or Honda.
If you want a car that stirs the soul, be prepaired to put up with little fusses. |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 380
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, July 23, 2003 - 8:58 am: | |
i'm surprised more people have not had this problem.
for those who care i'll post the solution when i find out what the deal is. |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 378
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:27 am: | |
Eli, I do, the posts in the middle are invisable to me. I like this site to give and get a cross section of opinions on our cars, the other stuff is just nerd chatter.
I enjoy giving honest advise where i'm qualified to give it and i ask for advise when i need it, that's about all.
ps...thanks Dave. |
ELI (Titanium360)
Member
Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 498
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:16 am: | |
Noel, just ignore some of these idiotic posts. they are not worth it. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2024
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:11 am: | |
>>It should be reliable, uber reliable. But when you have 20K mass produced Honda's out there that are more reliable than your 150-200K car...I would be flaming.<<
That's NOT REALITY...you are not buying perfection...you are buying a Ferrari..with all it's good AND BAD points.
To think otherwiseis Delusional and unbelivably self centered.. You want Bling Bling..then you should be mature & realistic enough to accept Reality.
The Cars Are What They Are. It's Unrealistic Thinking that is at the root of alot of the problem.
Ferrari brings cutting edge technology to the table, with that the risk of something having a glitch increases ten twenty fold.
To think that cars are like The Space Ship Enterprise and the Computers are Perfect and will speak to you warning of a system that will go bad next week is simply not realistic. The reality is cars are far more like HAL of 2001 a Space Oddessy than they are like The Enterprise.
And with so few people actually driving Ferraris and putting miles on them how the heck is the Factory to know if it's a glitch on a particular or an endemic situation across a model line???? |
David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Member
Username: Racerdj
Post Number: 335
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 11:09 am: | |
Actually Noel is not a big ham. When he had F-1 problems before, he posted for advise. Then he had a F-car dealership do the total fix (Lake Forest). Even the upgrade on the ECU(?). He did not try to tell the dealership to fix it cheaply but to fix it right ($5k+/-). I don't see that this problem is Noel's. I have found Noel's previous posts educational and overall supportive of this forum. Besides we both have "girly 360" and we must stick together. |
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy
Post Number: 333
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 10:45 am: | |
I see it this way...when you have a 150-200K car that is hand built in limited numbers...It should be reliable, uber reliable. But when you have 20K mass produced Honda's out there that are more reliable than your 150-200K car...I would be flaming. |
JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 2023
Registered: 11-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 9:34 am: | |
Actually the Market (buyers) demanded all this fancy smancy ultra complicated electronic junk, then turn around and whine when it has glitches....
The buying public demaned cars that think for them, drive for them, shift for them, wipe their nose and powder their tootoo for them...and then when they are forced into participation to get the car to do their bidding it's some major traumatic event.
Exotic cars have never been lazy user friendly...those are Hondas & Toyotas.
Owning an exotic car is only fun for realistic people that understand that "THEY" will have to participate in the good times "AND BAD TIMES" and who can accept the realistic responsibilities as they come along.
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Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy
Post Number: 330
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 9:17 am: | |
Actually Allan makes sence...Ferrari race cars have the F1 gearbox...and you always see them being pushed backwards out of their garages. So simply pushing it is usefull. No offense Noel but you sound like a big ham...The way they describe your last fix is they did it wrong and your paid their uber big bill. just my $0.2 |
James Dunne (Audiguy)
Junior Member
Username: Audiguy
Post Number: 145
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 9:12 am: | |
Noel,
Don't pay any attention to Allan. His only intent in coming on Fchat is to spread hate and discontent with answers that do not help or offer GOOD advice. He says he is offering you help but is only spewing his mentality. Again, don't pay any attention to him. It is not worth the bandwidth he uses.
BTW, have you called your dealer to enlist their help? Maybe they can help to satisfy you over the phone. The car is still under warranty so they should be able to get something done for you in a fairly quick manner. |
Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
Junior Member
Username: Andrewg
Post Number: 219
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 8:59 am: | |
Allen having been in a diablo SV when the gear leaver came off in the drivers hand and not for the first time......... |
David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Member
Username: Racerdj
Post Number: 334
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, July 21, 2003 - 8:54 am: | |
Noel=I hope the dealer will not inconvenience you in the least as if I remember you did the ECU upgrade and did not skimp on their repair bill. In other words, you let them fix the problem their way. Good Luck |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 377
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 10:29 pm: | |
Gian & Rob, thanks.
Allen, I don't know you but you seem weird. |
gian maria traversone (Giamma)
Junior Member
Username: Giamma
Post Number: 68
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 8:33 pm: | |
About the F1 not going in reverse I believe it is the solenoide of the reverseo that when the car gets hot it starts to give problems. try to put it in reverse from 1st gear. It worked for me until I gat it fixed. |
gian maria traversone (Giamma)
Junior Member
Username: Giamma
Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 8:30 pm: | |
guys, I believe the only way to make this Alan lamborghini micky mouse looser leave the chat is not to answer any of his comments , eventually he will get bored to dance alone and hopfully one day he will leave... |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 862
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 8:03 pm: | |
David, i did help. I gave him the helpful advice of pushing it in reverse!lol |
Jack (Gilles27)
Intermediate Member
Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 1169
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 8:00 pm: | |
Noel, call Lake Forest and tell the mechanic who "fixed" your tranny to come down and show you. You can even set up a cot so he doesn't have to leave until it's done properly. Not to make fun of your problem. It just bugs me when something is supposedly repaired only to have a glitch in the same area show up shortly thereafter. Good luck. |
David R. (Rodsky)
Junior Member
Username: Rodsky
Post Number: 134
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 7:57 pm: | |
Allan - Perhaps you forgot this - so I thought I would bring it back so you can read it. Its in the thread - Allan Fiedler a challenge to you. You said it was a great post and that you do many of these things. Hmmmmmmm...
"I would like to challenge you to a few things I have in mind. When a younger(than your age) fan gets his dream car, praise his/her accomplishment. I have found that many on this site have realized their Ferrari dream car much earlier than I did (48 years old) in life. Be happy when someone finds an older car to refurbish and be there to help if you have the advise or knowledge. Build up enthusiasm for your favorite car marque. Don't tear down to make your situation better. Give a waive back when a teenager gives you a thumbs up. Go to any car show and admire and compliment car owners that are showing their best. Build up, it will make you feel better. Give a terminally ill child a ride, he/she will never forget it nor will you. Be a promoter. Please return to the Lambochat.com (or similar) to build up your favorite marque. Above all be thankful for what you have and encourage others to do likewise. In a split second it could be all over, and only memories for the rest of us. Above all if you know of or are in the need of help while in Indy call me and I will try and be there to help. I'm sure others will add advise to add meaning to your life. Good Luck!" |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 860
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 7:49 pm: | |
I dont understand? F1 inspired reliability? Hmmm, I just checked, my Lambo will go in reverse. Just push it backwards. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator
Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 5638
Registered: 12-2000
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 7:16 pm: | |
Got this from "f1 360 shift problem". Change the search to "and" for more narrow search.
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/249203.html
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noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 376
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 6:59 pm: | |
i did, i tried "reverse", "360", "f1"....any keyword advise? i found almost nothing. |
Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Member
Username: Arizonaguy
Post Number: 325
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 6:42 pm: | |
use the search button. |
noel smith (Noel)
Member
Username: Noel
Post Number: 375
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, July 20, 2003 - 6:39 pm: | |
I'm having difficulty with my 01 360 F1 not going into reverse. Can anyone shed some light on this problem? |