| Author | Message | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 159 Registered: 5-2003 |
K&N might sell the damn focking things but it didn't fit in my Testarossa without some alterations and it did not do anything to improve its performance. | ||
| Manu (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 833 Registered: 2-2002 |
K&N definitely make filters for the Testa - because my guys sell the damn things for owners who want them. I would love to see ACTUAL filtration comparisons. | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 158 Registered: 5-2003 |
Bruce I got it from a friend who is a supplier for stores like discount auto, pep boys, whatever... he is got the catalog and when we got the part it didn't fit. I didn't feel any extra push. | ||
| JB CVT (Palmetto_tr)
New member Username: Palmetto_tr Post Number: 27 Registered: 11-2002 |
YES I DID BUY KARLS, AND I HAVE BEEN VERY HAPPY | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2945 Registered: 4-2002 |
BEN...NOT DISAGREEING WITH YOUR FINDINGS..AS YOU KNOW MUCH MORE ABOUT TRS THAN I DO......... SO YOU SAY THERE COULD BE MORE WEAR/TEAR WITH THE ENGINE WITH THIS FILTER?? | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Intermediate Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 1197 Registered: 1-2001 |
Agree with Bruce they do make one (it's not generally available @ K&N outlets in the USA) - you have to get it from Europe, altho IIRC mine was $50 delivered. Bruce - I know it seems to make a difference, I have one - but I took it out because it was not filtering (the air) as good as what the stock filter can do. This does/will cause premature engine wear and can lead to failure. Not worth the extra push if you ask me, you are welcome to disagree. See: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/177947.html I will get around to doing another oil analysis with the stock filter soon for comparason, will post results when I get them. -Ben | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2940 Registered: 4-2002 |
L....K/N DOES MAKE A FILTER FOR A TR...HUTCH AND MYSELF HAVE ONE BEN...I SWEAR IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE THAN THE OEM ONE...IT WHILES A LITTLE BUT SEEMS TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE,,,,, BRUCE | ||
| L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member Username: Testaroja Post Number: 153 Registered: 5-2003 |
KN doesn't make a testarossa filter but I measured my testarossa filter and kn does have one that will fit, but some sanding of the rubber of the filter will be needed as is just barely bigger, this will need to be done only in two sides of the filter. One thing is that I didnt feel any difference in performance. | ||
| Michael C. James (Mjames)
Junior Member Username: Mjames Post Number: 132 Registered: 6-2003 |
JB: Were you the buyer of Karl Troy's TR? | ||
| Ben Lobenstein 90 TR (Benjet)
Intermediate Member Username: Benjet Post Number: 1195 Registered: 1-2001 |
K&N = Crap! | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 239 Registered: 6-2003 |
FYI, my '91 has a cooling fan and radiator. Also, my Ftech said the K & N is a waste of money since I prob won't clean it often, which requires solvents, etc, and it is better to just use paper filters and change them often. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3136 Registered: 2-2001 |
billy, I know the 512TR never came with an oil cooling fan, dont know about the TR. My 512TR definately needed it, 3 -5 laps at speed on the track & the oil temp was reaching for the sky, now its under control. I just went to a hot rod shop & got a regular cooling fam, my mechanic installed it so it kicks in at the same time as the water fans | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3135 Registered: 2-2001 |
billy, I know the 512TR never came with an oil cooling fan, dont know about the TR. My 512TR definately needed it, 3 -5 laps at speed on the track & the oil temp was reaching for the sky, now its under control. I just went to a hot rod shop & got a regular cooling fam, my mechanic installed it so it kicks in at the same time as the water fans | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2939 Registered: 4-2002 |
JB EMAIL ME [email protected] BRUCE | ||
| JB CVT (Palmetto_tr)
New member Username: Palmetto_tr Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2002 |
I CALLED K&N 2 DAYS AGO AND WAS TOLD THEY DIDN'T MAKE ONE , DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE OR SOMEONE I CAN CONTACT TO PURCHASE ONE. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2938 Registered: 4-2002 |
JB THATS BULLSHIT I BOUGHT ONE FROM THEM, IT COSTS 100.00...FITS PERFECTLY FOR MY 88TR. GEEZZZZ | ||
| JB CVT (Palmetto_tr)
New member Username: Palmetto_tr Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2002 |
I CONTACTED K&N AND THEY TOLD ME THEY DONT MAKE A FILTER FOR THE TESTAROSSA, HOWEVER I DID SEE ONE POSTED ON EBAY. WHEN I SAID ECU I WAS REFERRING TO "CHIPPING" THE CAR. YOU SUGGESTIONS ABOUT INSULATION SOUND LOGICAL, I WILL TRY IT THIS WEEKEND. THANKS FOR YOUR HELP. JIM BY THE WAY I'M IN CHARLESTON SOUTH CAROLINA | ||
| billy zissis (89tr)
Member Username: 89tr Post Number: 277 Registered: 4-2001 |
William, doesn't the TR come with an oil cooling fan? I know there is an extra fan in mine which turns on when the oil temp gets a bit hot. There are three fans back there. Or are they all for water cooling? | ||
| billy zissis (89tr)
Member Username: 89tr Post Number: 276 Registered: 4-2001 |
The biggest performance upgrade I did to my TR is getting a full borla exhaust system from exhaust manifold on-no cats. There are four tube mufflers located way down so it doesnt really heat the air going into the motor not to mention that the engine bay is much much cooler and the sound is unbelievable. As for a chip the 512tr and 512m have an electronic sequential fuel injection system that controls fuel curves as well as timing so a chip could be made to maximize the timing and fuel curve. On the older TR it is constant injection which from what I understand nothing can be done about except changing to a programmable sequential fuel injection. Has anyone ever done this? | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3134 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jim, I did not wrap my exhaust as its not as big a problem on the 512TR as it is on the TR. I did insulate the air intake snorkels & I had the 2 air filter boxes painted with thermal reflecting paint. To lower my engine heat I installed a cooilg fan behind the oil filter which helps considerably on the track & I removed the screen under the engine lid to create larger openings for the heat to escape I suppose if JB wraps his exhaust he could also add an oil cooling fan to help cool the oil off. If it gets real hot you can always do what they did on the 348 that raced at LeMans, install cooling fans under the engine lid to blow air out through the top of the engine lid | ||
| Jim Avery (Boxer12)
Junior Member Username: Boxer12 Post Number: 229 Registered: 6-2003 |
William, Did you notice a rise in engine temp when you wrapped the exhaust? I wonder how the engine heat dissipates if not thru the exhaust? Does it just pass thru the exhaust without changing the engine temp? (Doesn't seem possible) If the engine heats up, then what have you accomplished? What temp does your car usually run at? Jim | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 2119 Registered: 1-2001 |
JB CVT -- Have you actually found a company offering a TR "AFTERMARKET (injection?) ECU" or are you just asking a general sort of question? What version TR do you have (i.e., exhaust configuration, injection type -- K or KE) and what continent are you on? | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3131 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think K&N makes air filters for the TR, on the 512TR you have to buy the filters they make for the Jeep Cherokee  | ||
| Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Member Username: Enzomoon Post Number: 271 Registered: 4-2002 |
I have the Koenig Chip, Tubi exhaust, K&N filters on my F512M. If the their chip for the first series TR is half as good as the one they sold me for the M, it will be the best money you ever spent!! I HIGHLY recommend Koenig. | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 2908 Registered: 4-2002 |
JUST BOUGHT A K/N AIR FILTER FOR MY 88...I COULD SWEAR I CAN FEEL THE DIFFERENCE. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3128 Registered: 2-2001 |
1 major problem with the 86 TR is that the air intake sits on top of the muffler so it gets preheated before it enters the engine exactly the opposite of what you want to happen. Cool dense air feeds more air to your engine & you make more hp. Hot air does the opposite The 512TR has a much better intake system, it uses 2 long snorkels under the rear fenders that scoop air out of the cheesegraters in the doors. Last time my engine was out I removed these snorkels & wrapped them in aluminum insulation at home & gave them back to my mechanic to reinstall. It did cool the air & it did make a noticable difference cus before I couldnt chirp the tires in 2nd, now I can For the TR I would suggest you get a Tubi muffler but before you install it wrap it up in muffler insulation to cut down on the heat rising into the exhaust air. after that, if the exhaust intake is metal you can send it out to have it painted with thermal reflective paint to help cool the intake air some more. If you have time & inclination you could wrap all the fuel lines & the intake plenum as well to lower the air temp even more | ||
| billy zissis (89tr)
Member Username: 89tr Post Number: 275 Registered: 4-2001 |
What kind of chip can possibly be made for the Testarossa. Isn't it CIS injection? I doubt that these computers even have chips and if they do what do they control? Not trying to knock anyone's company just don't see it helping in any way. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 987 Registered: 9-2002 |
Thats a conservative 30 hp http://www.koenig-specials.com/ferrari/ferrari-testarossa84-92.html | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 985 Registered: 9-2002 |
Keonig racing chip and Tubi exhausts.. as well as straight pipes. | ||
| JB CVT (Palmetto_tr)
New member Username: Palmetto_tr Post Number: 17 Registered: 11-2002 |
I AM LOOKING FOR SOME PERFORMANCE UPGRADES FOR MY 86 TR, IE AFTERMARKET ECU, INTAKE CHANGES, EXHAUST PIPES. ANYONE WITH EXPERIENCE AND DOES IT MAKE A NOTICABLE DIFFERENCE? |