| Author | Message | ||
| Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3041 Registered: 4-2002 |
MORRIE AS I CAN APPRECIATE YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT ALGAR, I DEALT WITH ONE SALESMAN ABOUT 2 YRS AGO, AND WAS UN-PROFESSIONAL TO ME AS THEY COME.. HE RUSHED ME OFF THE PHONE EVERYTIME AS WELL AS IT TOOK ME 3 CALLS TO GET A RETURN CALL BACK FROM HIM..NEVER AGAIN AS FOR THE OWNER( NO NAMES MENTIONED) YOU HAVE GOT TO ME KIDDING "PROFESSIONAL" HE IS IN HIS OWN FREAKING WORLD...AND TALKS HIS OWN FREAKING LANGUAGE...HES GONE THE SERVICE DEPT IS HEADED BY MARK CEDRONE, TRULY AN EXCELLENT MAN, WHO KNOWS HIS STUFF..... FOR SERVICE AT ALGAR..YES, MOST DEFINETLY....BUT THE SALESMAN I DEALT WITH ( HES STILL THERE,) AND THE OWNER...FORGET IT... MY .02 CENTS REGARDS, BRUCE | ||
| Morrie Richfield (Carnut)
Junior Member Username: Carnut Post Number: 73 Registered: 11-2002 |
I just want to add my two cents here, as some of you here might know me, at least a few do. I have purchased 43 different cars over the past three years (including 3 from Algar), and I can can tell you this much, out of all the dealers I have worked with none have been as professional as the people at Algar, from the owner down to the guy you details the cars. They have kept every promise they made to me (I can not say that about any other dealer including dealers I've bought 8 or nine cars from), they have treated me with respect, and I in turn have learned to respect the way they do their business, and would not even think of buying a Ferrari or Marerati anywhere else. As you the talk of an inside job, insurance claim or whatever you might want to call it, I was on the phone with them the day this happened, believe me they wanted this car back more than anything, and the way this was done it could have happened to anyone, whoever did this was good, very good. Those of you who know these people as well as I do know that none of them would ever be involved in any kind of slam. | ||
| TOM BUCKLEY (Tom_b)
Junior Member Username: Tom_b Post Number: 94 Registered: 6-2003 |
A sure cure for this type of theft. The dealer puts a neck brace loaded with explosives around the customer's neck. Like what happened to that pizza delivery guy. If he's not back in 30 minutes, remote detonation. KABLAMO !!!!!!!  | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 825 Registered: 4-2003 |
Coming soon! The Adventures of Carbon McCoy: Operation F50 1 down, 348 to go  | ||
| Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Moderator Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 2609 Registered: 8-2002 |
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| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 347 Registered: 12-2002 |
Erik, As for "what does a dealer have to lose", besides the depreciation on the car, and the floorplan that was already mentioned, there is the lower chance a car can command a high price when sale time comes. Consider - the F50 came out, I believe, in 1995. The car may have been purchased 3 years ago for $650k before the Enzo was even a pipe dream. The Enzo comes out, and are available for less than $1mm, and of course there is the psychological part of paying more for an F50 than one would pay for an Enzo that stickers for $695k, I believe. So the F50 has just become harder to sell. If $650k was paid for the car, and was kept on hand for 3 years, the dealer could be "into" the car for $750k easily, if not a lot more. At that point, owning the car is a money losing proposition. Even if it's sold for the asking price, it becomes an exercise of containing losses rather than even breaking even. If the car is stolen, the dealer gets paid by the insurance co, and whoever stole the car can probably sell it for $300-400k if not more. Bottom line the $750k car that was sitting around not selling just pulled in $1.1MM. Not saying that's what happened, but there sure are a lot of strange parts to this story. then again we probably only know 20% of what really happened so who are we to judge. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 200 Registered: 9-2001 |
no, it's not me.  but it's representative of what the crooks should be up against. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 968 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have to say this stinks to me. Too many 'oopsies' from an outside 3rd party's viewpoint. In any event, can *someone* please post the serial number of this car so we can all be on the lookout:? PS: it is ONLY slandar if we knowingly and damagingly pass off false information as FACTUAL. Best! Ben. | ||
| David W Burnett Jr (Dbdreams)
Junior Member Username: Dbdreams Post Number: 87 Registered: 3-2003 |
Chris, I think your memory serves you well. That is the story I heard/read. Thanks for refreshing my memory. Does anyone know what happened in Long Island? | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 316 Registered: 4-2002 |
David, if my feeble memory serves, the one in NC was Foreign Cars Italia. Someone came in, wanted to drive a 328, did so with a salesperson, came back, and asked to take it out one more time by himself to see what it was like with only one person in it. Guess what happened from there? | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 315 Registered: 4-2002 |
Erik, yeah that's basically it. Kinda makes you want to start your own little used Ferrari dealer doesn't it? With only one car I don't have hard numbers, but I know floorplan is rather expensive - and obviously the more expensive the car the worse it gets. And the longer it sits around etc etc etc.... It can get painful rather quickly. | ||
| David W Burnett Jr (Dbdreams)
Junior Member Username: Dbdreams Post Number: 86 Registered: 3-2003 |
Someone mentioned this was the 3rd recently stolen Ferrari with two others one in North Carolina and the other in Long Island. I seem to remember a similar story about a 328 being stolen but can someone give the short story on the other two cases? | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 334 Registered: 2-2003 |
Oh I understand now Chris. So, if a dealer is driving a car that is under his floorplan all he has to pay is the interest and the depriciation of the car to drive. That's all it costs a dealer to drive a car off the lot everyday? Erik | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 313 Registered: 4-2002 |
Erik, generally a dealership does not own their inventory - the bank does. A dealership basically pays interest on a loan for the price of the cars. It's called "floorplan" in dealer terms. And I'm sure a car like that is very expensive to let sit around. But at the same time, that is taken into account when they take the car as a trade in and figure out what price tag to slap on it when selling it. | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 333 Registered: 2-2003 |
Let's think about this for a second. What does the dealer have to lose by letting the car sit? It has been sitting there since May so what is the big deal about letting it sit there longer. An F50 buyer doesn't come along that often. I remember an F40 there about 1 and a half years ago that stayed their for months. Does the dealership lose anything from having this sit? I don't know. Anyone. Erik | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 310 Registered: 4-2002 |
Aside from all that, it's an F50!! I have to believe in my heart of hearts that if someone is in the fortunate position to be able to drop major money on a limited production special edition Ferrari, they already have their mind made up to do so - sans test drive. And if a test drive is required (like has been mentioned in the Test Drive thread) it is done ONLY after the deal is 99.9% done. Other more readily available models I could understand wanting a test drive because the selection is larger and is sometimes being compared with something else (say Modena vs 911 Turbo). Really, it's not like someone goes looking at an F50 to see whether or not they like it, or not go in there already knowing what the car is and what it's capabilities are. I don't want to bash Algar, they've already had a bad week. But come one, letting an unknown client with no ID out on a test drive with the most expensive car on the lot??? I would feel more sympathetic had the car been stolen out of the garage one night. When I worked at in a dealership you couldn't even test drive ANYTHING without ID - and we're talking about run of the mill, everyday cars here - not super exotics. | ||
| Mike B (Srt_mike)
Member Username: Srt_mike Post Number: 346 Registered: 12-2002 |
This is sounding more and more strange and suspicious by the post! The car had 300 miles on it and was listed at an asking price of $750k, and the owner "wasn't too eager" to sell because it drew people in? Something is strange about this situation. Why in the world would they let ANYONE drive a $750k car with 300 miles on it? Hell, even if Bill Gates walked in you think they would request a refundable deposit secured in escrow or something as a condition of driving the car. The fact that no license was shown, and the guy claimed to have his limo waiting next door and was allowed to drive a $750k car is just mind boggling to me. I don't care if the guy was wearing solid gold underwear, I wouldn't let ANY perception of wealth cause me to let the car get driven, let alone in a situation whereby the guy can just drive off like that. There's definitely something fishy here. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 736 Registered: 11-2001 |
The theft could have been prevented if the salesperson had been cautious. If the sales guy and potential buyer is in the car and the buyer asks for a test drive, the salesperson should have taken the key out after stopping, sit in the passenger and wait till the driver seats in properly and then hand the keys over. The salesperson took the sucker bait, I've heard of this situation at least once before and even in some movie. I'd put an anti hijack system to take care of that where the car would slowly loose power for the car to be driven off the road compared to an instant power off where it is illegal to have one installed. | ||
| Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee Post Number: 222 Registered: 4-2002 |
James, you're right, they have always been quite friendly to me when I've dropped by. Frances is always willing to take a second to talk if he is not overly busy. DL, IIRC, this car had around 3,000 miles on it. | ||
| James Angle (Jimangle)
Junior Member Username: Jimangle Post Number: 92 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jeff, Have you ever been to Algar? It's a pretty friendly atmosphere there. I've never had a problem with attitude when I've visited there, and I'm usually wearing only jeans and a tee-shirt. I've had a few conversations with the service department, and everyone seems to be straight forward. | ||
| DL (Darth550)
Member Username: Darth550 Post Number: 368 Registered: 7-2003 |
Greg, If that is the same car that I think it is, it has only 300 miles on it(plus the now imfamous test drive)! It was sitting in a window (from new) on Beverly Dr....right next to an F40 with the same miles!! Algar bought them both from the owner (who incidently gets the VERY FIRST of every allocated new car to FBH). DL | ||
| Greg G (Greg_g)
Junior Member Username: Greg_g Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2003 |
How come nobody is discussing the $750,000 asking price of this car? I thought the current market was bringing $400-500K tops for these cars. I understand that Algar can ask whatever they want, but what gives? | ||
| Norm (32storm)
Junior Member Username: 32storm Post Number: 53 Registered: 5-2003 |
Wow, nice way to get a return on your insurance premiums. When it's time for renewal, i would be curious how that'll factor into the renewal price. Let's see, only one claim....but.... Probably end up in the "Bogata or Leningrad Auto Trader"....new arrival, just off the boat, rare F-50, low miles.... | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 496 Registered: 8-2002 |
We are only stating the obvious from the facts, the story just seems a little unbelieveable, I have been in many Ferrari dealerships where I considered myself a credible customer, nice clothes expensive watch etc. and they all seem very nervous and apprehensive if you even approach the expensive cars ($300,000+) let alone sit in them and ask to start them up, so some guy is going to waltz in with a good story and no ID and they let him go for a ride that will add miles,risk damage both mechanically and physically to such a expensive car with no deposit or background check? We are just sizing up a dealers version of the story the same way we are sized up when we walk in, if the facts are different than what was published in the paper or ALgar has a different version lets hear it. | ||
| larrybard (Larrybard)
New member Username: Larrybard Post Number: 22 Registered: 6-2003 |
Les, I agree. I know at least some of the people at Algar (especially in the service department -- which I realize has nothing to do with this incident). I have my car serviced at Algar, and while waiting for the less time-consuming servicing often walk around looking at the cars and talking to some of the people there. I think many of the comments posted so far reflect 20-20 hindsight, in light of the result. But I wonder how many of the commentators have any experience with the sorts of people who might buy an F-50 from a dealer, and how those transactions happen. My guess is that there's often a lot of blind trust and casual appearance in the transactions. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if Algar has successfully sold many expensive used cars under similar circumstances -- i.e., well dressed gentlemen phones in advance, saying he wants to visit because of his interest in a particular car, and after a test drive buys it. Without a license to show? Maybe even that's happened before. Salesmen tend to size up a propect -- accurately or not -- and be trusting. I don't know which salesman was involved with the F-50 (maybe Frances), but I wouldn't be so quick and harsh in my judgment. Just my $.02. Larry | ||
| les brun (Labcars)
Junior Member Username: Labcars Post Number: 178 Registered: 1-2003 |
Unless you know the people at Algar personally and have a point of view based on those direct interactions, then why not stop speculating about their ethics and intellect and focus on the fact that they have been victimised and be more sympathetic. Did they make poor choices in this instance? Well, unless you know ALL the detail of the incident you just don't know. What is certain, however, is that a crime was committed against both a person (the salesman) and a business, and under our system of laws this was entirely unjustified and all efforts should be made to find the culprit and the merchandise and let our criminal justice system (flaws and all) go to work. Just MHO and sorry for standing on the soapbox, but we seem way too gleeful in adding to the misery of the victims. | ||
| John Ashburne (Jashburne)
Junior Member Username: Jashburne Post Number: 74 Registered: 9-2002 |
Philip If there is any justice in the world, your condescending salesman was the victim in this theft! If so, he can start checking out what his "budget" will be when he's wearing a paper hat to work and asking "want fries with that?" John | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3194 Registered: 2-2001 |
thieves part out cheap cars, its sort of hard to part out an F50 as there is not a very big market for F50 parts. If the car was indeed stolen its likely going to Asia or South America or maybe Russia | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2001 |
Inside job? This isn't an "Auto Toy Store" type business, but rather a large volume franchised Ferrari dealer that's been in business for 40 years. No doubt some very piss poor decision making on their part but I don't see any basis to accuse Algar of theft and insurance fraud. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 199 Registered: 9-2001 |
regardless of how duimb someone might have been that doesn't make it okay for someone to steal a car. Regardless, the car is likely worth more in pieces and easier to deal with that way. If it's not, then I really don't get it - stealing a 1/349ish thing is nearly as dumb as stealing a 1/1 thing (ala moa lisa or whatever) | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 3183 Registered: 2-2001 |
If I was going to spend $500k + on an F50 I'd rent a dam race track & bring along a Murcielago, F40, & whatever else just to have a side by side comparison. Hey if youve got the $ you might as well. WTH are you going to learn about driving an F50 from doing 70 mph on a highway ? Thats not what this car is about. Its like taking a hooker to church to try her out | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 487 Registered: 2-2003 |
Dave, I don't think any of us here mean to slander anyone.......it's just that when any "job" of this size happens, one of the first things looked at is the possibility of inside help.....sure we are speculating, as I'm sure the detectives are.......but as many people here have said, there is probably a lot of information we don't know and hasn't been released to the public, so anything we do is pure speculation.... | ||
| David Seibert (Historics)
New member Username: Historics Post Number: 15 Registered: 8-2003 |
So here we have a substantial thread, among other things accusing the owner (whom I know very well) and other individuals at Algar of criminal activity, and all based on a single newspaper story which does not tell the whole story. Speculation is one thing; slander is another. | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 483 Registered: 2-2003 |
I hate to say it, but I think Dave and Andy may be on the right track........although I'm sure there's some infor we don't know, it does seem like a lot of things "don't add up". Probably an inside job, get the insurance money and sell the car.........get paid twice.........It's been done with almost every other commodity......why not F Cars? | ||
| Dave White (Dwhite)
Junior Member Username: Dwhite Post Number: 141 Registered: 5-2003 |
Maybe a golden parachute for one of the execs who is retiring to S. America, Asia. I bet A. Anderson devised the plan. If cars were taken from other dealerships wouldn't there be some sort of bulletin. Very hard to believe. | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 292 Registered: 3-2003 |
A great way to get $750,000 for a used F50 is to have your insurance company buy it. Its hard to believe they let the dumbest salesman on the lot handle the out of towner on the F50. | ||
| Ryan Sabga (Sherpa23)
Junior Member Username: Sherpa23 Post Number: 160 Registered: 5-2003 |
I wonder who the saleman was? It could have been some new guy. It is interesting that they let him test drive an F50. You would think that the dealership would only let long time customers test drive a car like that. | ||
| Erik (Teenferrarifan)
Member Username: Teenferrarifan Post Number: 330 Registered: 2-2003 |
I have seen this f50 many times as I stop in algar about once every couple weeks, and lately it has been moved to the back corner of the "used car showroom" near the maserati options board. IMHO it would have taken quite a heck of a phone call to have them move about 3 cars out of the way to get this guy a test drive. But, I wonder whether or not the guys limo was really at the acme lot next door. Because from the showroom window you can see into the acme lot and from all the side windows so why didn't anyone ask any questions when the limo moved or if there wasn't one. Also I know the algar owner well and he told me a few weeks ago he isn't to eager to sell it because it draws customers in and he likes seeing it in the showroom. Erik | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1407 Registered: 9-2002 |
Mark, Thanks for the link. I think I may have read it before, which is where I got the notion. --Dan | ||
| MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Member Username: Markpdx Post Number: 803 Registered: 4-2003 |
Here is an article on a stolen F50 that made it's way to Japan by Michael Sheehan If it Sounds to Good to Be True... | ||
| Steve D'Gerolamo (Ultgar)
New member Username: Ultgar Post Number: 24 Registered: 2-2003 |
Huberts right...there had to have been an enclosed trailer waiting locally for the car to show up. A red F50 doesn't just disappear in a Philly suburb. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 1403 Registered: 9-2002 |
Aren't there two stolen F50s in Japan right now? Japanese authorities have been less than helpful, from what I understand. Maybe this will make 3. --Dan | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1441 Registered: 1-2002 |
That car's already "sold." Whoever pulled this, had a cargo ship, contrainer and a willing buyer on the other end... | ||
| Craig Dewey (Craigfl)
Member Username: Craigfl Post Number: 689 Registered: 1-2001 |
Lojack/GPS doesn't work very well when they put it in a shielded metal container right away. I'm sure they considered it when they set up their get-a-way vehicle. | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 266 Registered: 11-2002 |
if the article is correct, the manager that approved the test drive is more at fault than the salesman...'course, both of them may be looking for new jobs | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Intermediate Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 1067 Registered: 5-2002 |
Good. Piece of cake.. Anyone selling a F50 With out the hard top will have a lot to answer to... The only reson why I don't feel it's an inside job is because it also happen the same way in other dealerships... I do feel it's the same guy.. | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 844 Registered: 10-2001 |
No Lo-jack or GPS unit on that car? Too bad. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 821 Registered: 3-2002 |
Alex: You can stand in line with lots of people with that comment about t/drive. | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 480 Registered: 2-2003 |
I've only had one experience with Algar...They wouldn't let me test drive a 355. This is when I pulled up in my 348! I had a liscense and the registration and proof of insurance on my other F Cars........They had a 355 I was interested in...I loosely offered about 4000.00 less than what they were asking........they salesman looked at me and said "Oh, you're on a budget"...very condescending. I looked back and said "Everyone's on a budget, just some peoples budget is larger than others"....Anyway, they wouldn't let me test drive and I left..........I would never go back there.........(this was about 2 years ago) | ||
| Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee Post Number: 219 Registered: 4-2002 |
LOL, I was waiting for someone to refer to that picture! They wouldn't even let me test drive a Metro let alone an F50! ;-) | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 311 Registered: 4-2003 |
 I think this guy stole it....  Just kidding Alex | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 820 Registered: 3-2002 |
I can go a little higher with my cash offer. I already have a paper plate. And I am really curious which cologne this guy used when he talked a ride out of Algar? Perhaps I should try something other than Old Spice ? | ||
| Andrew H (Stokpro)
Junior Member Username: Stokpro Post Number: 181 Registered: 6-2003 |
Doubt we'll see it on eBay. Most likely went offshore. Probably sitting in a container ready to cross the Atlantic. | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Advanced Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 2639 Registered: 6-2001 |
A lot of balls to do that. Art | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1269 Registered: 8-2001 |
It'll show up on ebay in a couple weeks . | ||
| philip (Fanatic1)
Member Username: Fanatic1 Post Number: 478 Registered: 2-2003 |
He must have a buyer ready and waiting.....there couldn't be a market to try and sell this "openly"...... | ||
| Andrew H (Stokpro)
Junior Member Username: Stokpro Post Number: 180 Registered: 6-2003 |
No cameras on Algar's lot/showroom that can be reviewed for identification? Can't believe the dealers that have millions in inventory but no other security other than an alarm system. Most high-end car dealers in the Seattle area all have exterior (some interior as well) cameras spanning the whole lot. Pieces of the puzzle don't seem to fit the story. I'm thinking... inside job. | ||
| Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee Post Number: 218 Registered: 4-2002 |
The car had been there since at least May or so. Algar is in Philadelphia suburbs. I want to say that there is probably more info than the dealer or police released to the media. That car was buried in the showroom so they must have done something right for them to move it out of the corner of the showroom and onto the road for a test drive. Some pics of it are here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/251280/258126.html | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 818 Registered: 3-2002 |
Look for F50 parts forsale in Lagos. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1391 Registered: 10-2001 |
Start looking for a Red F50 in Moscow | ||
| Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Junior Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 194 Registered: 12-2002 |
I saw a demonstration once where a guy cut up a car with a sawzall. Took about eight hours. Pretty impressive! | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 816 Registered: 3-2002 |
Does the salesman work there anymore? If he does, call him and after talking with him on the telephone explain how you never purchase without having a test drive. What kind of clothes, cologne, and sunglasses did this guy have when dropping by ? That must be some kind of con job to get a test drive on that car. Perhaps it was a Nigerian ? The salesman should have seen NEBULA's advice. Next time he will check to see what the buyer drove up in. Thats how you can always tell the players from the real buyers. Be careful from the Jackoffs. Jeff it does sound fishy. | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 298 Registered: 4-2002 |
WHAT?????? A F50 test drive? With no drivers license or ID of any kind????? That sounds awfully weird. I can understand getting a test drive but with a LOT of proof that you are a prospective purchase and not just trying to joy ride the thing. So the people that authorized the test drive with no ID - do they still have their jobs? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6644 Registered: 8-2002 |
Is this the same F50 that was at FoLI a month or so ago...? Where is Algar...? | ||
| Alan Leach (Speedy308)
Junior Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 189 Registered: 12-2002 |
Damn, ya'll. Be quiet!!!! From a white, 6' 3" slender guy with short, clean cut, reddish brown hair and glasses. "And I ain't even got a garage, you can call home and ask my wife" Charlie Daniels "Uneasy Rider" | ||
| jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 491 Registered: 8-2002 |
Its an inside job, noone is going to see a F50 being driven into a truck? Story sounds fishy, I cant see any Ferrari dealer letting anyone drive a $700,000 car without checking them out or requiring a deposit. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 815 Registered: 3-2002 |
Alex someone ran to the insurance co real fast. Then someone updated the website. LOL | ||
| Alex Lee (Alxlee)
Junior Member Username: Alxlee Post Number: 217 Registered: 4-2002 |
I was wondering what happened to that car! I noticed it was no longer on their website. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 814 Registered: 3-2002 |
One more thing. That car will be worth less; if the police recover it. The Carfax report will not come back clean. It is supposed to show up that the vehicle was stolen. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 813 Registered: 3-2002 |
Give me the Keys. I will bid 50K Cash ! At least someone got a test drive out of a Ferrari Dealer ! | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 1268 Registered: 8-2001 |
That guy has ALOT of balls to pull something like that- thats right out of Gone in 60 Seconds! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6642 Registered: 8-2002 |
i did NOT drive to work today in an F50... (wait a minute... that's nothing to smile about... i need to edit this post and change that "" to a " "...) | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Intermediate Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 1020 Registered: 9-2002 |
OMG! | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 4357 Registered: 9-2001 |
wonder what the insurance with pay if anything, they obviously did not exercise due care | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 49 Registered: 12-2001 |
Has this been posted yet? http://www.philly.com/mld/dailynews/news/local/6864656.htm He dropped off salesman - and took off in Ferrari By JIM NOLAN [email protected] You think YOU'VE had a bad day. How'd you like to be the trusting Main Line Ferrari salesman who got out of the passenger seat to switch places with a prospective customer last week, only to be left at the curb? In case you're wondering, that was a $729,000 f-50 Ferrari. Red, of course. The salesman, not to mention Lower Merion police, are still looking for the car, which detectives believe may have been driven into a trailer shortly after it was stolen for shipment overseas or a black market transaction. Even harder to believe is that the silver-tongued con man was able to get behind the wheel of the Italian roadster without even showing a driver's license, according to police. It all happened Sept. 16 at Algar Ferrari, on Lancaster Avenue, in Rosemont, one of only 32 Ferrari and Maserati dealerships in North America. Lower Merion police said a man called the dealership saying he was flying up from Atlanta and was interested in a red, 1995, f-50 in stock. He arrived wearing a shirt and tie and a Rolex watch, acting affluent and telling the salesmen that his limo was parked next door in the Acme parking lot. Salesmen always accompany prospective customers on test drives. But police said that after the first test drive with the salesman behind the wheel, the con man asked to take another spin driving himself, saying he was concerned about the brakes. Police said he told the dealership that he left his wallet and license at the airport. Nevertheless, a manager agreed to let him drive with the salesman. Around 5 p.m. on Spring Mill Road, the man asked if the salesman would drive the rest of the way back to the dealership. "When the salesman gets out, he just takes off," said Det. Charles J. Craig, who is handling the case. Despite rush hour and rapid police deployment to the area, there was no trace of the car, leading cops to suspect the con man had accomplices. "This took a lot of planning," said Craig. Police released a description of the Ferrari thief - White, around 6-foot, slender, with short, clean-cut, reddish-brown hair and glasses. The Ferrari is pretty hard to miss. Detectives are also looking into whether the theft is related to similar thefts of Ferraris in North Carolina and Long Island. Anyone with information can call 610-645-6228. |