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Author Message Modified348ts (Modman) Member Username: Modman Post Number: 745 Registered: 11-2001 Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 12:55 pm:    Whenever I go get frozen or refrigerated foods, I usually bring a cooler. If a pint of ice cream melts in less than one minute in the rear of a 308 I wouldn't consider it a trunk but an oven to cook stuff. Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12) Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2411 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 8:29 am:    BTW DGS, you're not the only one grocery shopping in a F car: Not a big deal, after all James takes his MK-IV for milk runs... Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12) Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2410 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 8:24 am:    DGS, I was kidding. The ice cream rationale kinda escapes me as a reason to part with a Ferrari. Technically you're quite right. I have actually removed the spare tire in the front of my 308 and use that for groceries as well, especially for more heat sensitive stuff. Ice cream is not my thing, but if I had to transport that, I have an electric cooler, which I could run off the cigarette lighter. So the whole point is moot to begin with. DGS (Dgs) Member Username: Dgs Post Number: 364 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Friday, October 03, 2003 - 6:33 am:    "Having said all that; not being able to transport ice cream really bothers me. Maybe I should consider..." You can't carry ice cream any distance in the rear cargo space of a 3x8. I haven't tried the forward area. But you can carry a (paper) bag of groceries strapped into the pass seat. And, even in the back, a short stint of a couple of blocks wouldn't have time to do more than soften ice cream. To be safe, use plastic for aft carriage. You just need to buy ice cream close to your home, instead of driving all over to try to hide how much you're buying. Most people around here are freaked that I drive a Ferrari to the grocery store anyway. Those intercontinental ballistic shopping carts, ya know. Robert McNair (Rrm) Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 677 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 2:51 pm:    Best of luck to you Nika with whatever you choose to buy. Tyler (Bahiaau) Intermediate Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 1059 Registered: 12-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 1:00 pm:    Nika, congrats on the quick sale, I hope everything goes smoothly! I hope to see you around here from time to time no matter what is in your driveway. Doug meredith (Dougm) Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 365 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:49 pm:    Nika Don't take any offense to the posts, I'm with you on this one. I sold my 512bb 3 months ago and replaced it with.......................................................................................................an NSX As you said, there are times where practicality comes first. So far the NSX ownership is what I was expecting. The Boxer was a great/beautiful machine, but it took 5-10 miles of under 3000 rpm driving to warm up. 90% of my use comes in jaunts that are under 10 miles. Kds (Kds) Junior Member Username: Kds Post Number: 237 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:23 pm:    Nika..... I sent you e-mails to your racerchick address but have received no reply or phone call. Is your car for sale ? I am interested. jeff ryerson (Atheyg) Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 504 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 12:20 pm:    Yeah Taek, I can tell you are so intellectually superior from your past experiences and judgement calls you made in life and posted here. As much as I would like to argue with you more today I need to take care of business in the real world, not everyone is a racist Taek, you should take a look at yourself and how you perceive things Mark (Markg) Member Username: Markg Post Number: 614 Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:36 am:    I'm with Terry Springer on this one: I had a '69 911E that I upgraded to S specs (ALL new suspension, 2.2 liners, carb conversion etc.)and dollar for dollar an outstanding sports car. Very crude interior as it was designed to perform not comfort. Compaired to the 911, my 308 feels like a boat (due more to the 308's build quality resulting in a heavier car than anything else). Ferrari has the beauty, with good performance but some reliability issues; Porsche has the performance with reliability but less beauty. Best of both worlds: keep the 308 and get an early 911 too! p.s. I think the 308 looks outstanding in yellow!! Ken (Allyn) Intermediate Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 1189 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:36 am:    Wasn't the guy who designed the Enzo Asian? Reminds me of something John Lennon once said. He wrote "If I Needed Someone" after hearing the Birds and the jangly guitars. Roger McGuin said he was copying the Beatles when he did the jangly guitars in 8 miles high. So who innovated who? Is this thread hijacked enough yet? Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice) Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2190 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:33 am:    Jeff, You are in the wrong side of the idiocy scale. Come on over to the other side. Much more rewarding. Cheers DES (Sickspeed) Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6793 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:32 am:    Eric, #2189 should be in there, too...! Taek, i'm glad comments like Jeff's don't get you down... jeff ryerson (Atheyg) Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 503 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:30 am:    Taek Unlike you I don't reveal much about myself here so believe me I am not bitter about your fondness of Lambo or how successful you think you are. You have mentioned many times how your Daddy opened doors for you and you couldn't have done it without him so if it makes you feel better to think you have done it all on your own good for you. Cheers Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari) Member Username: Nuvolari Post Number: 307 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:30 am:    How about we throw in a request for Ferrari bikinis and start talking about driving around at high rpm's and we can take this thread to the record books. Eric Brigham (Ebrigham) Junior Member Username: Ebrigham Post Number: 78 Registered: 4-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:20 am:    Since this thread has been hi-jacked more times than I can count, I would like to chime in by nominating Taek-Ho Kwon's Post #2186 to the "Top Ten" list. Truly a classic! Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice) Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2189 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:18 am:    Jeff, My accomplishments are my own and none of your business. Those who know me better laugh at your comment. Don't pin your failures on my successes and good fortunes, that bitterness won't stick. It's not a matter of PC, but common courtesy. You don't know everyone in this forum on a personal basis and you sure as hell don't know their standings in racial terms and politics. I usually try to be nice to people I speak to because of the inherent respect they deserve as people sharing something (yes, even opinions I don't agree with). I'll make an exception with you, so f!ck off. That's the end of that. I've polluted Nika's thread enough. DES, I was born in Spain and raised all over Europe, so Mexico wasn't far off! Jim, I am very glad a car guy in the truest sense feels that way. Cheers DES (Sickspeed) Senior Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 6792 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 11:04 am:    quote: Maybe I'm biased being a Gook... Taek, you're a 'gook'...? With a name like Taek-Ho Kwon, i was positive that you're from Mexico...! Jerry Slagle (Slag_328gts) Junior Member Username: Slag_328gts Post Number: 65 Registered: 9-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:59 am:    Growing up, I simply didn't have a Honda poster on my wall. It was a Ferrari. Always was and always will be. I can still respect other cars & yes, I do have a peek through my window everytime I hear my neighbors NSX pull up. It's just not what I dream about, it's not what stirs up the passion in me. I still like it though. jeff ryerson (Atheyg) Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 502 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:56 am:    Taek How typical, pull out the race card remarks, should I have said Japanese and been PC so I don't offend? Did I call you a Gook? I've been referred to as: White Boy, Cracker, Gringo, and a 1000 other names and I could care less but I don't get on a soap box and cry the Race Card I wouldn't waste my time on a Honda board or Porsche, Corvette or other make since I don't own one, something you Lambo fans/owners, ( I don't know if Daddy bought you one lately)wouldn't understand. Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12) Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 2400 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:54 am:    Robert, I'm with you 100%. Not for the life of me would I ever want to be without a Ferrari again. Nothing comes ever close. The experience was in my case a LOT more than I could have ever expected. Having said all that; not being able to transport ice cream really bothers me. Maybe I should consider... James Glickenhaus (Napolis) Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2689 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:49 am:    The Subarau's that fly through the air on the world rally courses? The Mitsu's that power over the dunes between Paris to Dakar? The Toyota's that ate Chrysler's lunch to become one of the big three moving in on #2 Ford? Motorcycles that run at the head year after year? F1? LeMans? They've been there and done that and IMHO will continue to do so. Taek Even though you're a Gook and drive a Lambo I still like you, Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven) Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 331 Registered: 2-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:47 am:    I will never sell my Ferrari as the experience was more than I ever could have expected. I pass $100,000 Porsches, MB, etc. in the lowly gt4 with tubi and cannot help but notice the sad look on their drivers respective faces. I know their thinking, WOW I wish I was in a Ferrari! I am a sports car lover (every make) but in my book there is only room for one at the top pinnacle of the automotive heirarchy! Porsches are great cars but the only thing that excites "me" about them is their racing history. Must be my genes? Who cares about cupholders, ergonomics, daily drivers, 4 wheel drive. It is the smell, the sound, the history, the $25 washer! Enzo Ferrari is my god! Go Michael Go!! Rob (nomex on):-) Terry Springer (Tspringer) Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 818 Registered: 4-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:47 am:    Nika... One suggestion relative to a Porsche. Before you buy a newer one, drive an older one. Drive a '69 to '73 911E or 911S.... or a 911T with an uprated engine. No other car I have ever driven on the street offers more fun per mile than these lightweight early 911s. The steering is simply sublime... and throttle response from teh mechanical injection is like ESP. If your ever in Atlanta, you can try mine. Ill tempt you further and offer a drive in my Daytona to boot! Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice) Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2187 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:43 am:    Dammit Mark! You got me drooling! Cheers Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 895 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:40 am:    "Ferrari board doesn't just mean Ferrari worshiping board" Yellow is so good on these cars.. some worshipping is needed. Just don't hate others. Ken (Allyn) Intermediate Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 1186 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:36 am:    How does a mention of a Ferrari for sale turn in to an NSX bashing contest? When it's on F Chat!! LOL Me thinks there is a tad of NSX envy here... Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice) Intermediate Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 2186 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:32 am:    Agree with Jim. I drove a Cayenne Turbo when looking for SUVs. For my personal use it would be the only SUV I buy. Felt better than some sports cars! To anyone who is in the market, DO NOT dismiss this car before driving one. It'll really be an eye opener. You won't believe you're driving a "big lumbering SUV". Jeff, Jap cars are plenty cool if you ask me, although I prefer the Kraut cars and definitely the Guido cars. But of course, you are right and Japs have no innovation since they copy everything, of course. The styling is obviously bland too. What were the Japs thinking?! Perhaps an argument in their favor... For every guy who thinks styling is king, there are ton more who like a sports car for it's sporting merits. Maybe I'm biased being a Gook and so close to the Japs. Ferrari board doesn't just mean Ferrari worshiping board. An owner found that it was time to move on and shared it with everyone. Well within her rights to do so. Well within the boundaries of proper conduct to say they will consider whatever the hell they want. As for visiting Honda boards, go ahead and post what you posted here. You'll rightly get blasted for your insolence all over again. Moron. Cheers Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 894 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:18 am:    Jeff-"Jap cars get no respect because they have never come up with an original idea ever" Jeff they did come up with one idea. The Idea that ferrari is spanking you with that 15k and 30k cash-ectomy. NSX had same preformance when it came out in 91 as the 348. But busted the line that exotic car ownership had to been a pain in the ass and $$$. Jeff when you stop bashing them. I will stop having to talk about this topic. And we can get back to yellow 308 Ferrari for sale. Looks like a great car. James Glickenhaus (Napolis) Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2688 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:02 am:    Nika Drive one. You'll be surprized. I was. Another choice for those Can. winters and a lot of car for the $ is one of those rally WRX but the best idea is simply test driving/writing about them all. Best TC (Houston) (Tec) Member Username: Tec Post Number: 267 Registered: 2-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 10:02 am:    Nika, come to the dark side. I just got this, and it's in your color. Racer Nika (Racernika) Junior Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 88 Registered: 7-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:55 am:    Ferrari ownership - you take the good with the bad - nothing can sound or smell like the Ferrari. BUT it's costs money to keep running perfectly - you can't take it out everyday/everywhere.......can a pint of ice cream survive even a minute in the trunk. At times we all must re-evaluate what our priorities are. The Porsche Canine..errrr....I mean Cayenne - no thank you. jeff ryerson (Atheyg) Member Username: Atheyg Post Number: 501 Registered: 8-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:44 am:    Jap cars get no respect because they have never come up with an original idea ever, the NSX is a totally plagiarized Ferrari executed with boring plain styling, as for heritage in a Honda its the civic with a coffee can muffler and neon lights. This is a Ferrari board, I don't go to the Honda board and say what a boring car a Honda is. If Nika doesn't like Ferrari anymore thats fine, who cares?, it sounds like she would be better off with a Honda djmonk (Davem) Member Username: Davem Post Number: 437 Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:41 am:    Nika, You think 100+ messages are bad. Look what happenned when i sold my Mondial! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0062515675/ref=lib_dp_TFCV/102-4129399-7481710?v=glance&s=books&vi=reader#reader-link Jim E (Jimpo1) Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2646 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 9:01 am:    Nika, are you going to be selling your Ferrari memorabilia also? I could use some additions to my collection. James Dixon (Omnadren250) Member Username: Omnadren250 Post Number: 424 Registered: 7-2001 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:26 am:    It's threads like this that really separate the true car enthusiasts from the poseurs. Dale W Spradling (Drtax) Member Username: Drtax Post Number: 424 Registered: 4-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:26 am:    Nika, I have a 2001 C4. Trust me, you'll love it. Best to buy used, though. The first two years depreciation is pretty heavy. Good luck melo yelo (Meloyelo) Junior Member Username: Meloyelo Post Number: 107 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:24 am:    Nika, I do not have an Fcar yet and I will have one soon. I am looking forward to the experience. I have been for about 23 years now. Anyway, I am very enthusiastic about future ownership and when I read your post about your yelo bumblebee, I thought maybe there was something negative about owning one that I had not thought of. Your comment made me stop and think. And of course, not being in your shoes, I started speculating and trying to figure out what your comment meant. That's all. my Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328) Member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 501 Registered: 4-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:24 am:    I'd like to mention that I have a 1989 328 GTS (pre-NSX) and the quality has been great! Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari) Member Username: Nuvolari Post Number: 306 Registered: 9-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:21 am:    Maybe the guys were trying to re-capture lost youth by acting like little school boys trying to impress a girl that does not even know that they are alive. Then again this comment was my attempt at humour, lets see if I can clear 100 posts. James Glickenhaus (Napolis) Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2687 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:20 am:    Nika If I were you I'd trade my Jeep for a Turbo Cayanne. I love my wife's. Alan Leach (Speedy308) Junior Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 214 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:16 am:    Any attempt at humor on this board is welcome. Lighten up a little guys. Racer Nika (Racernika) Junior Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 87 Registered: 7-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:10 am:    and if you must know - I drove a Carrera 4 recently and was impressed..... I am considering a Porsche. (Not that Boxster since we all know it's a chick car) The Honda comment was a poor attempt at humor. Alan Leach (Speedy308) Junior Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 212 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:07 am:    Go Nika!!! Racechicks rules!!!! Nika, you have mail. Amanda wants to talk to you. Racer Nika (Racernika) Junior Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 86 Registered: 7-2003 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 8:02 am:    I go away for a day and 103 messages?????? Some of you are in need of a life! SO I want to sell the car - big deal - it's leaving within the week I think. A very good deal was made. Sometimes a person just wants change - in this case I may want to have a project car, a newer sports car - or leave the garage space for press cars that come for a few days or weeks to test. sheeeeeesh guys - you make a mountain out of a mole hill and analyze the crap out of a simple decision I made to not own a Ferrari anymore. Alan Leach (Speedy308) Junior Member Username: Speedy308 Post Number: 210 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 7:59 am:    For Sale: Three Ferrari scrap tail lights. Call: Speedy308 Sorry, I made one into an official Ferrari ashtray. "Smoke 'em if ya got 'em." James Glickenhaus (Napolis) Advanced Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 2686 Registered: 10-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 7:31 am:    Hugh In the good old days you could arrive at the field behind the stands on wed. and watch as the open transporters pulled in and unloaded. You could walk around and say hello to Lozenzo, John, Jackie, Graham, Phil, and Jimmy. They were happy to talk to a kid who loved cars. Honda's? I remember the beautiful white car with the (H16?). As it raced through the woods of Rouen. It sure looked and sounded cool to me. Lucas Taratus (Karmavore) Member Username: Karmavore Post Number: 403 Registered: 12-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 7:15 am:    Hugh, You are my hero for the day. Luke. James Adams (Madmaxx) Junior Member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 222 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 6:59 am:    Damn, this is one hi-jacked thread MM Hubert Otlik (Hugh) Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1483 Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2003 - 1:57 am:    >>The NSX is a nice car, but I'd pick an F-car over it ANY DAY. Hell, I'd pick an F-car with a blown engine over an NSX anyday.<< I'm sure you'd take a full frontal lobotomy over an NSX too, right? It's not even a matter of honda , toyota, lambo v. ferrari -- it's about people acting like an utter obtuse and ignorant penis, and running their mouths about things they know nothing about. I've been around ferraris all my life, and I've seen a lot of racecars, and have enjoyed a lot of different car makes, but none is "better" that the other; Ford produces automobiles in "appliance" like volumes, yet nobody rags on Mr. G's "ford," or about how mundane the GT40 is b/c it's an appliance like Ford. The same can be applied to hondas , toyotas, or whatever make you like -- sh!t a kia can be a "celebrated" make to someone, somewhere, but a bunch of chassis snob vultures would probably rip him to pieces. Look, you're happy to own any car you wish -- it's a liberty you can take-- but stop pissing on other peoples parades. Have a nice day. I'm through here, as I'm taking my tuna can to the track. See you guys there *cough* *cough* Or wait, you're probably too busy estimating your future ferrari valuations, rate of depreciation and how much more your car will be worth sitting in a wrecking yard. Utter nonsense. PS: Arlie: you shuold read up on your motorsport history, pal. Mazda 787B le mans OVERALL victory. Honda campaigned an NSX at le mans in the 90's. Etc. Etc. Etc. By the way, honda was one of the first, and major players in grand prix racing, as has been, at one time, or another, every other remarkable make of car. It's just the fact that they accomplish everything in a municipally understated way; less is always more. You guys just don't get it, at all. Some of you equate tact, class and holding something with fond regard to denying that anything else of value could possibly exist outside of your, tiny, spehere of interest. Get a clue. Dammit, I lost my keys... honey, where's the can opener... I'm locked out... honey... Jon P. Kofod (95f355c) Intermediate Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 1085 Registered: 8-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 11:41 pm:    Fond memories of a Honda? Yep sure do....... How bout' 0-60 in 3.0, 0-100 in 6.2, 1/4 mile in 10.9, top speed of 188, and future Team Cool Cart/Indy car racer Parker Johnstone driving it at 9/10ths. In the early 90's my best friend who was a top Acura salesman got to go to Lime Rock with some other Acura people and I got a VIP ride in this monster. Had only been on the track maybe once or twice in my life (once when I was a kid and in a 959 w/ Hans Stuck in 1989). They didn't even have a second seat but some crudely installed foam with harnesses. I was scared sh*tless. The ride with Stuckie was in a street car and he wasn't pushing as hard since it's a half million dollar car. The Acura Spice was mind boggling with ground effects, and to think it only had 450-500 hp, the freaken Nissan GTP's had another 500 hp. Would have likely passed out in one of those at the time. Getting back to Nika, maybe it's all the attention she gets with the car (same as on F Chat). Think of how much attention you all get (talking about the males here) and then factor in an attractive female like Nika and I am sure after a while the novelty wears off. Just look at this thread....someone informs us that they are selling their 308 (Nika) and this thread gets 100 replies in 15 hours. It's a nice car but it's a 308 not an ENZO. Had I, a male posted the sale of a 308, I doubt we would be sitting here debating Honda's vs. 308's or trying to make a thousands conclusions why I am selling my 308. As Nika has said many times...she isn't here to date, befriend you, or meet you, she was here to join in on Ferrari ownership and apparently the fun has subsided for her. Anyway, I still think the 308/328 is a work of art. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 www.flatoutracing.net Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 893 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 11:23 pm:    Thank you DGS, I was hoping someone would get my joke Just trying to have some fun. DGS (Dgs) Member Username: Dgs Post Number: 359 Registered: 5-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 11:19 pm:    Mark, Wouldn't "Mr2 Bumblebee" be a ... Toyota MR-2? From this thread, it sounds like people have any various range of expectations of Ferrari ownership. So I wouldn't think that "not what I expected" would mean much in an objective sense. I'm reminded of the line from "Cool Runnings" about an Olypic Gold Medal: "If you're not enough without it, then you'll never be enough with it." Thomas I (Wax) Member Username: Wax Post Number: 441 Registered: 7-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:59 pm:    Once again, Nika, being a professional in every sense of the word, has written an article on the car, her perception of it, and how she is perceived by the man on the street. http://www.racerchicks.com/Chick_Pick/CP_Nika_star030329.html If you're interested in the car, contact Nika. Serious inquiries only. Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 7 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:19 pm:    LOL, right on Mark! I will give you, Horsefly, that Honda is not a nostalgic marque, at least among Americans over 30. For me, my 1971 Plymouth 440 Cuda entertains my nostalgic moments. Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 892 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:11 pm:    Has anybody ever leaned back and had a fond memory of cruising in their HONDA? YES Senna, one of the greatest F1 drivers ever. Zanardi did also and I hear Prost did too. (sorry about spelling) Every other super-star driver in F1 at the time put a little into the design, and track setup of the NSX. They felt proud, because they did a damn good job at the end of the day. Allan Lambo posted lap times for two tracks and NSXr is still beating much bigger HP cars like the 360 wich is also 10 years newer design. "Sorry folks, but the truth hurts." No Arlie, your biased bashing of the nsx hurts. The wonderful Honda car does real nice when it comes to the facts. I will stop talking about NSX and get back to Ferrari if you bashers want to quit the joking around? I did not come here to talk NSX but I will not let it be trashed either. I respect what that car did. Horsefly (Arlie) Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1513 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:08 pm:    Sorry folks, but the truth hurts. Japanese cars just do not have the heritage, legacy, and admiration like Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Corvettes, Cobras, Mustangs, etc have. Has anybody ever leaned back in their easy chair and had a fond memory of cruising the drive-ins with their HONDA? Or seeing HONDAS fly down the Mulsanne straight at LeMans? Or late night drag racing on a lonely two lane blacktop road in their HONDA? Or spending the evening at the drive-in theater with their girlfriend in Grandpa's old HONDA? I think not. Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 6 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 10:07 pm:    Horsefly, I never said that the NSX pioneered the use of aluminum body panels. Reread my posts, you'll see. Copying 50 year old American technology? Oh, I guess it was the Studebaker that first created variable valve actuation (VTEC) and variable venturi size (VVIS)....? This by the way, is what gives the 290 hp NSX an incredibly flat, very driveable torque curve. Nebula, the autos have only 252 hp, and are considerably slower than the sticks. Also, I know of some ugly old Novas and Chargers that will obliterate an Enzo from 0-150 mph. I've heard of some weak little EVO's pushing close to 500 rwhp too, so what was your point? Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 891 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:57 pm:    Funny how some guys hate the car. Every answer is a wise-ass slap in the face. Allan gets blammed for being a jerk because he does this to Ferrari and it makes you guys feel bad because you know its not true. But then you turn around and do it to the NSX and you look like jerks. Its amazing how some people just like to be nasty. Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 890 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:51 pm:    "I drove an early model NSX with the auto." Well then you have never driven an NSX the way Senna and Prost set it up. I'm trying to stay neutral but I want logic from the NSX bashers, not just hatred. Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:49 pm:    Thanks Mark for the proper metric. A quick scan of prices on the internet show a probably 10-15% premium for the 348 t* over NSX's for the same year/mileage. Not much difference, in the grand scope of the open market, for a throw-away Honda (in Horsefly's opinion) versus your beloved marque. Horsefly (Arlie) Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1512 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:47 pm:    Here's one bit from the archives. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/18/195977.html I couldn't find the exact photo that I was looking for, but I'm sure that L.Wayne knows the car: It's the prototype Ferrari that looks like an NSX. It's probably where Accura/Honda got the idea in the first place, from Ferrari. And I don't think the NSX pioneered the use of aluminum in sports car bodies. Who did that? Ferrari back in the late 40s and early 50s? Well, not exactly. I believe the Marmon automobile used aluminum bodies and engine blocks back in the 30s. V16 engines to be correct. Looks like Japanese car companies were copying 50 year old American technology. Oh well. What can you expect from folks who duplicate a 1940s Jeep and call it a Toyota Land Cruiser. Snore, yawn, zzzzz. Nebula Class (Nebulaclass) Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 542 Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:44 pm:    The NSX is a nice car, but I'd pick an F-car over it ANY DAY. Hell, I'd pick an F-car with a blown engine over an NSX anyday. I drove an early model NSX with the auto. The damn thing was a DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOG. Not to say that the manual isn't fast, but I owned a 317hp Cobra that cost 1/3rd the price and was twice as fast. Oh well. Bummer. Mark (Study) Member Username: Study Post Number: 889 Registered: 10-2001 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:35 pm:    Arlie-"Comparing the value of a 12 year old NSX with a 26 year old 308 (1977 model) is a shallow argument. Level the playing field on your comparisons and check back later." 348 89-94 goes against the NSX 91-94 if you want to do the math on which car held its value better. This is the level playing field Arlie is looking for. I would guess they are even. Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 4 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:26 pm:    Horsefly, why do you keep bringing up scrap yards? Is this where you commonly find your Ferrari parts??? Before my NSX ever got to the scrap yard, someone would salvage it and try to rebuild it. Even salvage NSXs get good money, from what I can see. Good eye Tyson. You found the only area that needs improvement on the NSX. Anyway, Drano comes nowhere near my cars. I keep that stuff under my sink, not in my car trunk..(?) My apologies, Horsefly, I didn't know that the 308's were so old. Horsefly (Arlie) Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1510 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:15 pm:    Autophile, you're comparing apples and oranges. Comparing the value of a 12 year old NSX with a 26 year old 308 (1977 model) is a shallow argument. Level the playing field on your comparisons and check back later. "the NSX is all aluminum. It won't rust like a Ferrari." Just don't dump a can of liquid Drano on your car or it will dissolve right before your eyes. But don't cry. I'm sure the operator of the scrap metal yard will give you HUNDREDS of extra dollars for your NSX just because it has titanium piston rods. Tyson Hall (Trhall) Member Username: Trhall Post Number: 425 Registered: 6-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:13 pm:    The NSX has had the same 290hp engine for what 12 years? Yawn Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 3 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:11 pm:    Argumentative? Sure I am. I got tired of reading these condescending posts about a car that many people on this board have either no knowledge of or due respect for. An NSX is not just a "lawnmower Honda." It is a peer of Ferrari, like it or not. I did not intend to bend this thread off subject, but I had to say my piece. Please resume the topic at hand, the sale of Nika's QV... Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr) Advanced Member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 3087 Registered: 4-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 9:02 pm:    ARLIE PRETTY ARGUMENTIVE AND ABRASIVE FOR 2 POSTS, EH?? Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 2 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:59 pm:    Ha, Horsefly, you're so funny. My clean '91 NSX (a 12 year old Honda!) has a current market value of approx 60% of what it was when it sold new. What percentage of their new cost does an old 308/328 go for? 30%-40%, maybe? The NSX holds it's value very well, thank you. And thanks for reminding me that the NSX is all aluminum. It won't rust like a Ferrari. Did I mention that the stock NSX engine has another exotic material? All NSX's use Titanium for the connecting rods. What is Ferrari using? Iron? Yawn..... Give me something to argue about. Horsefly (Arlie) Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1508 Registered: 5-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 8:50 pm:    Autophile, as I've said before, 20 years from now, a Ferrari (or Corvette) tail light will be worth more than an entire Honda in a scrap yard. Honda's are like VCRs or DVD players. Great when they're new; not worth their weight in scrap plastic when they're 10 years old. "I can imagine watching your egos deflate upon getting whupped by an EVO, WRX, etc...." And we can imagine watching your wallet deflate when you find out that an aging Honda is only worth $50 at a scrap metal recycling center while a rusting V12 Ferrari of any model will set you back $20,000 or more. But don't feel blue. Old Honda's serve a useful purpose. The world needs more dog food cans every day. Fido looks hungry. Open up another can of Alpo NSX!!! Autophile (Autophile) New member Username: Autophile Post Number: 1 Registered: 10-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 7:07 pm:    For the NSX/Honda bashers: Your hostile remarks against the NSX shows that you are still scared to death of this car. Just to remind you - This is THE car (gasp, a Honda!) that forced Ferrari to re-examine the build quality of its own cars. I can imagine watching your egos deflate upon getting whupped by an EVO, WRX, etc.... Yes, it's a Honda, thank god. It'll run for 300,000 miles, gets nearly 30 miles to the gallon, and for roughly half the cost, it gets mistaken for a Ferrari anyway. How do you like them apples? GThomas (Ferrariartist) Junior Member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 223 Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:40 pm:    sorry to hear that Nika... Ferrari or no, i hope you find a car that makes you happy... i wish i could provide the Bumblebee with a nice little hive myself... someday... (: GT Hubert Otlik (Hugh) Intermediate Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 1482 Registered: 1-2002 Posted on Wednesday, October 01, 2003 - 6:30 pm:    Greg: b/c it's a ferrari board, and if it's in the interest of the integrity of the board, then , wouldn't you say, it would be more beneficial if the topic stayed on ferrari ,and didn't stray to pointless chassis snobbery?