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Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 10
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 13, 2003 - 6:00 pm: | |
Hi Hans,
Renewing both relais didn't work either.
Think that the problem is hiding in the lamimated
print or the steering-column.
Hayo. |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1653
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 11, 2003 - 5:49 pm: | |
Have you tried switching the two relays? Headlight relay failure is somewhat common. Happened to me. |
Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 7
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, August 10, 2003 - 10:08 am: | |
Thanks Verell.
I discovered the folowing:
The liftermotors are served by two relais. One LH
relais and one RH relais.
The RH relais works fine: on and off by switching the steering column lever. But the LH relais stays in the fase: pop-up. It won't fall off at all! Thats the reason why the lamp-unit stays in the open stage. I overrided the relais and the unit closed.
Think that the problem is hiding in the laminated printboard behind the relais.
Has anybody experienced the same? Is it possible to repair these prints?
Hayo. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 1059
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 4:37 pm: | |
Hayo,
Before you fully disassemble the steering column
(which takes a special ring-nut wrench), you can access all of the headlight motor wiring connections on the rectangular white connector block that connects the column switch to the vehicle wiring harness. This connector is located where the column goes under the dash.
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Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 4
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Friday, August 08, 2003 - 2:02 pm: | |
Thanks Dave and Steve for giving further info.
I probably could have saved some money by replacing the diode in the old liftermotor.
Now I have installed a brand new liftermotor and
it still doesn't move on the LH-side. Tested the new one on the RH-side: works fine!
Tomorrow i'm intending to dismantle the steeringcolumm in order to find any contact failures there.
Will keep you informed.
Hayo. |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1534
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
Hayo,
We could have saved you much $$$ and agravation if you had come here and asked....as Steve shows, this has been covered before...not an uncommon problem. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member
Username: 91tr
Post Number: 2000
Registered: 1-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 2:08 pm: | |
Hayo -- This post has Ric R.'s information about the diodes in the system that can cause headlight bucket motion problems:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/2393.html
A search on "diode headlight" (AND mode) might get you some more information. |
Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 3
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, August 07, 2003 - 1:47 pm: | |
Thank you Ferell for making a replica of the turning knob.
I didn't explain why this knob was ruined.
It happened during an attempt to repair a failing LH headlamplifting-motor. For years it functioned well, but later on it started to blink. Till a month ago: completly dead (lightbulb is still funcioning).
Actions undertaken:
Replacing electrical motor (new): no result.
Replacing relais (new): guess what?: zero.
Fuses: OK
Checkup entire relaisbox plus connections: nothing suspicious.
Check the mecanical parts for lifing: smooth.
Powerconnection to electrical motor: good and clean.
Checking and ruining the light handle (oops!)
Throwing all kind of things through the garage and swearing: no result.
Now it has really become a sport to find the fault.
If there are any ideas, please let me know.
Hayo. |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 1049
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 9:51 am: | |
Hayo,
If you order a knob today or tomorrow, I can send it out no later than next Monday. You should have it by mid-next week.
If I get the order today(Wed), I'll make a best effort to get it shipped Friday, but there won't be any margin for the minor problems that can crop up. I may have a part already made up, just can't remember. If so, then could ship Fri. for sure.
Don't have my price list here @work, but it's around $50 (USD)+shipping costs.
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Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 2
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 06, 2003 - 6:16 am: | |
Thanks for all the replies! I had not looked for a few days, so I was surprised.
Verell,
You are right , I only broke the the knob on the end of the headlight stalk of my 328, the electrical parts inside are still OK. I Broke the little bulge on the bottom of the knob-cap. That's the bulge that handles the iron ball and the two metal ends .
I'm interested in your offer to mold a new one.
I only have to fix someting to be able to keep driving because we have the best summer in Holland for years.
Thanks so far,
Hayo |
Verell Boaen (Verell)
Intermediate Member
Username: Verell
Post Number: 1046
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:24 pm: | |
Hayo,
Is the 'cap' you need just the knob on the end of the headlight stalk that you twist to raise & activate the headlights, parking lights?
If so, I have a mold & can make you a new one.
You'll have to paint the lettering & icons yourself, however the knob has their impressions to guide you.
If you're interested, send email to
[email protected]
letting me know exactly what you need.
Some of my wiper stalk work is posted in this thread:
http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/256120/202534.html
If you have broken the headlight stalk, I can repair your stalk by molding an exact replacement for the broken portion onto it. I will need the stalk inclcuding as much of the broken portion as possible.
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Malcolm West (Ferrari_uk_tech)
New member
Username: Ferrari_uk_tech
Post Number: 26
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 10:24 am: | |
I've just checked our warehouse, unfortunately we do not have the switch assembley in stock - neither does the factory in Italy, however the South African importer - Viglietti Motors do, their telephone number is 021-464.3560. So a repair, temporary or permanent may be the answer until you can get the part.
Cheers |
DGS (Dgs)
Junior Member
Username: Dgs
Post Number: 247
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2003 - 6:49 am: | |
According to the '88 spare parts catalog, "main switch", PN 61838400, is the whole switch assembly with all three levers.
In the '70s, a friend had the same problem on his Alfa sedan -- and the minimum listed unit there was also the whole rig. He opted for repairing the old one. |
Mark Foley (Sparky)
Junior Member
Username: Sparky
Post Number: 69
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 2:29 pm: | |
Hayo:
There have been some atricles about bonding metal wires into the lever with JB weld or some other bonding agent.
Perhaps you can try bonding it to fix it? |
dave handa (Davehanda)
Intermediate Member
Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 1468
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 1:16 pm: | |
Sounds like you need to go to the Ferrari Owner's Site and do a parts look up to see what you need. Ferrari UK should have what ever you need. |
Hayo (Hayo328)
New member
Username: Hayo328
Post Number: 1
Registered: 7-2003
| | Posted on Monday, August 04, 2003 - 1:11 pm: | |
Hi,
I just ruined the outside lights control knob of my 328. @#$#$%%.Don't know if this is good American language, but I mean the lever next to the direction indicator. I just ruined the cap, the inside is still OK. Do I have to order an original lever (cap) or is there an other (Italian) car with the same levers (knobs?). Any addresses? Thanks in advance.
Hayo
Netherlands |