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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1518
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 7:38 pm: | |
No, Mark Basch did not build the superchargers. He had someone else build them. This person has dozens of them sitting in his shop still, because Mark has not been able to pay him for them.
Nothing to convert me on with the Nsx. I have always said it is a great car, but it has lower performance limitations than most cars do. The Porsche is still a 6cyl, thats all that matters. |
Dave (Netviper)
Junior Member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 55
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 4:37 pm: | |
Allan,
Isn't the guy who really built the BBSC Mark Basch?
Anyway, yes P-cars do make a ton of power out of small displacement but they are not V6's.
I won't try and convert you as I already know your thoughts on NSXs. Lets just hope the next version has some Serious POWER. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1507
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 12:13 am: | |
Dave, thats funny. I know the guy who really built the Basch boost kits. Anyway, i know the Lambo is 2X the motor, but have you seen the power that 3.0 or 3.3 liter Porsches make? Silly power, that is very reliable and daily driveable.
Dan, something is worth only as much as someone is willing to pay. Always start very low in your offers, you never know what will happen. Some people will yell at you, others will sell you their items. |
Dave (Netviper)
Junior Member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 52
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
Allan, Actually the BBSC is blowing motors all over the place. A lot of people are selling them.
As for Rob, he was running the old aerodynes.. they only made about 400HP to the crank or less.
We are only dealing with a 3.0L motor. Getting 500HP is pretty impressive for that. You have 2x the engine displacement in the lambo. |
Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member
Username: Ferruccio
Post Number: 295
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:16 pm: | |
Allan I need to get a deal like you did on you Countach. Any advice? |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1503
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:54 pm: | |
Dan, i think you can buy nice Countach Qv's for about 60-65,000, and early 91 Diablos for about 75-80,000. I see the Diablos going down slightly, and the Countachs remaining the same, and then starting to climb in value. Remember they made far more Diablos than Countachs.
I paid less then 45,000 for my 87 Qv. |
Dan Gordon (Ferruccio)
Member
Username: Ferruccio
Post Number: 294
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 8:43 pm: | |
Allan two questions:
Where do you think 91-93 Diablo and Countach QV prices are now?
Where do you see them in the next year?
From what I gather you can get a good 91-93 Diablo for around $85,000
and a Countach QV for $70,000
I see prices for the Diablo going down (with all the new cars comming out flooding the market)
I see countach prices staying the same.
What do you think? |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1498
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:53 pm: | |
Dave almost forgot. In Az, a buddy of mine had a 91 Nsx that he had Basch supercharged. It also had Comptech headers and exhaust. I took my stock 91 Nsx and he took his car to the track. I ran a best of 14.0 @ 100.7, he ran a 13.69@106. This was also in 100+ degree heat. Anyway, we were both very disappointed in his cars performance. This turned out to be before Basch had come up with his software updates. He later had his car fitted with all of Baschs goodies, and i ended up racing him with my bone stock 2000 Lotus TT V8. We were dead even, gear for gear, down low, his car would pull me, and the Lotus would real him back in and gain a few at the top of each gear. This was exactly the same result i got racing an 02 zO6 repeatedly. My buddy later dynoed his Nsx and it made just about 400rwhp. In the Nsx's case, turbos seem to be cost ineffective, and if it were me, id save the money and just bolt on the supercharger. As far as i know, this setup has also proven reliable for him. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1497
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:39 pm: | |
Dave, that is a very unimpressive time for a twin turbo, which was supposedly built from the ground up with internals. He spent something like 25,000 on that motor. Id be pissed, knowing a guy in a stock motored car with a 100shot could beat me.
Anyway, my car on motor will trap 123-124mph. I will not abuse my car to get those kinds of Et's though, plus i run street tires. Anyways, thats about as fast as you will make an Nsx. Which although fast, is only the beginning on other cars.
L. Lets get real here please. You may see cars advertised for rediculous prices, but they are not selling for them. Late 80's TR's are 50's cars at best. You can get 92 512's in the 80's. Ive seen them, looked at them and driven them. When i bought my 5500 mile 355 Spider, people were asking up to 110,000 for similar low mileage vehicles. I paid 84,000.
As for Al Burtoni, please dont act like he's god. He can rebuild a motor, thats about it. He has made a damn good living off of convincing people things need to changed and or replaced on cars like Lamborghinis. Only Al, will charge you 50,000 for a rebuild. Only somebody who is very uninformed about cars would believe that Countachs and Diablos need clutch replacements every 10,000 miles. My 1987 Countach, had over 70,000km on the clock it was really around 76,000 and change, s roughly 45,000 miles, on its orignal clutch, motor had never been out of the car. Its complete service history consisted of oil changes. filter changes and one valve adjustment. Car ran Perfect! My 92 Diablo i only had for about 1 year, also completely trouble free, and now my 98 Sv, is 5 years old, and completely trouble free, on its original clutch with 30,000 on the clock. Clutch is as new.
So if you had 2 completely trouble free cars, a Countach and a TR, nothing ever went wrong with either, the TR would cost you substantially more to run than the countach due to the 2 timing belt changes you would have to go through in a 10 year period, almost 3, if you would have owned it from new by now. By the way, Countach do not overheat. Very early ones tended to, but later models do not.
Lastly, AL Burtoni prints those bullitins to drum up business for a repair shop. Do you think he would get more business by putting fear into people, or telling them how reliable cars are? Use your head.
As for your advise on purchasing an early 91-93 or a 94 car, i would do the opposite, and buy the early 91-93 cars. Aslong as they have all the updates, they are great and very quick reliable cars. They do not have all the later model adds such as abs,power steering, adjustable suspension, 4 wheel drive etc. This in term, leaves less to break, and much less weight. Properly tuned early models are among the fastest Diablos. |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 238
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 6:19 pm: | |
Allan I dont know why you post those values for my cars when a good 328 is a 45,000 dollar car and a 9.5 show car '88.5 testarossa is anywhere form 65,000 to 75,000. Some people might sell cheaper but maybe its because they aren't in the condition that mine is or are people who don't care about 5 or 10 thousand dollars, but I do. Also a 512tr is a 90,000 dollar car to 105,000, I see some advertise for 110,000 but I bet those will go for 105,000 or maybe a little less.
Not long ago I almost traded my testarossa for a 25th countach that had 11,000 kilometers, they wanted my car plus 8,000 dollars, but I walked away as Al Burtoni news bulletins made me nervous about how so many people buy lambos and then end up spending up to 50,000 dollars to rebuild. Also I wanted to get a 91 or 92 diablo because this are rear wheel drive models but everyone tells me to buy a 94 and up year car. Also they told me that the countach overheats easily in heavy traffic. Also I find that the clutch replacements for a countach or diablo at about $7,000 to $8,000 every 10,000 miles is just insane. How can you tell me that your diablo is service free when I know the lambo shop? |
Dave (Netviper)
Junior Member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 51
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 4:05 pm: | |
Allan, yeah same rob. He was running on slicks. His car actually was not impressive without the NOS as it only trapped about 115 with Twin Turbos. About stock Z06 speed. With the NOS it is pretty damn fast. He is selling it now, but I am not sure why.
Factor X just ran theirs last week.
NSX FX500 Turbo System
[email protected]
[email protected]
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Gary Green (Mr_green)
New member
Username: Mr_green
Post Number: 29
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:45 pm: | |
Jonathan,
Boys will be boys! |
Jonathan Brown (Jbsz06)
New member
Username: Jbsz06
Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:40 pm: | |
Didn't ever realize gentlemen with such fantastic cars as Ferrari's, Lamborghinis or Porsches argue about whose modded cars are faster..
The bottom line is once you heavily mod...all it takes is money..
And internet arguing is a waste of energy....
I guess the old saying of learning something new everyday is real.
I really never expected owners of such fine exotics to argue about such things..
Just a heads up. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1494
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 1:15 pm: | |
Dave, i have seen video of Gerry's car lose to a Z06 with minor mods, that was a mid 11 second car. So even if Gerry maybe didnt do an optimum launch his mph was there, which is the true test of power.
As for Rob, are you talking about the same Rob that had Gerry build him a turbo motor and then was shooting nitrous on top? If so thats a great Et, a 1.390 60ft is awesome, undoubtedly attained on drag tires, so is the 10.52 in the 1/4. Thats awesome. But his mph is very low, 126 is not very impressive. I will trap mid 130's in my car on a 150 shot, close to 140 on a 200 shot. Running from a roll, i will destroy that car. Btw, Rob is a great guy, ive spoken to him on the phone several times. Last i spoke to him he also had a Porsche C4, and was looking for a Ferrari, or maybe Lotus. |
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Intermediate Member
Username: Kennyh
Post Number: 1448
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 11:53 am: | |
KCCK, on a break while he recovers from surgery.. |
KCCK (Kenneth)
Member
Username: Kenneth
Post Number: 683
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 10:16 am: | |
Where's BRUCE? |
Dave (Netviper)
New member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 49
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:35 am: | |
Oh and rob just ran this:
The ran a last run with the 150 shot of NOS. Here are the results
R/t .596
60' 1.390
330 4.252
1/8 6.651
MPH 102.13
1000 8.738
1/4 10.521
MPH 126.26 |
Dave (Netviper)
New member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 48
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 9:33 am: | |
Actually Allan, if you kept up with the NSX world, you would know that Jerry was not going full speed on those runs because he was trying to stay in the high 11's as to not need to install a roll cage. At full speed, he expects 10's. And as for your little secret weapon on the lambo... Jerry has this (which he was not using)
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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Advanced Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 2934
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:09 am: | |
Allan
My friend and Mechanic just got back from Savanha, GA. where he took another's friends Pagani at the behest of Pagani who has a connection with a local college of Design. Pagani was there as was his new spyder (Rossa?) Pagani's coming to NY at the end of the year and we're all going to have dinner. In real life the car is spectacular but a tad too cutting edge/tecno for my taste. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1493
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:37 am: | |
Here is Gerry's Nsx:
http://www.pansx.com/
It is touted as the Nsx of Nsx's. I miss quoted his time of 11.5, its 11.94@125mph, meaning even without nitrous, my Sv will beat him, albeit he'll go through the traps at a higher mph. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1492
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 3:26 am: | |
L. (Testaroja),
First off, i dont take anything personally, internet spats do not phaze me . We can meet tommorow and have a beer, with no problems between us.
So on that note lets begin.
Im not going to comment on your 944 vs Countach race, as i dont know your car. I can only comment on my Countach and a stock 944 turbo or turbo S, the Countach will destroy it.
As for the Nsx, well i know Cybernation down in Ft Lauderdale. If they somehow achieved 560hp, it would be with the boost cranked to kingdom come. There is a guy with a twin Turb nsx, i believe his name is Jerry, in California, running a turbo Nsx, with 550 rear wheel hp. He has turned mid 11's at 125mph, very fast indeed, and certainly capable of beating a stock Diablo. Only Problem is, my Diablo is not stock, as it is an SV, which is significantly lighter than your friends 6.0 with custom exhaust, and ram air mods. It can run very close to the twin turbo Nsx with just these mods alone, but the Nsx would beat it. Only problem is, to make sure something silly like that never happens, i have this:
Right now it is 150Hp shot, but when i first installed it, was running a 200shot. I will obliterate that Nsx.
No Testarossa, other than later 512's is worth $70,000, you must have a pristene late model 328 to be worth $45,000.
Anyways, if your looking for status, the Lambo garners far more than the Ferrari ( i have a 355 Spider if you didnt know). People flock to you, bow down to you, beg just to sit in it. Ferrari in this respect gets hardly a glance. If its history, well Ferrari has race history, some good, some bad, Ferrari also made machinery in the early days as pointed out here. So if your looking for history, why not buy a Honda Accord, after all, theyre F1 champs also.
Also, did you know that Cybernation does not build any of the parts it sells for any of its cars? Their highly taunted super fast Integra was built by a guy named John Brown. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 593
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 2:55 am: | |
It must be smaller than 250KB (disk space),
AND smaller than 640x640 pixels (screen space). |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 237
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 2:27 am: | |
Mark it says 296kb, I don't know if that really means or matters, but I think ive seen bigger pics here |
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member
Username: Markpdx
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 2:15 am: | |
Probably too big, the maximum size is 640x640 pixels |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 235
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 1:58 am: | |
I can't get to post a pic??? |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 234
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 1:34 am: | |
allan the 944 I owned was a non turbo that we have since new, its got a turbo s engine and short gear ratios, it is lighter than a 944 turbo, I raced a 1986 countach from ultimate motors all the way to 110mph and I stayed about 3 cars in front of him all the way, I didnt gain more than that. Some people still make offers of 10,000$ for it, but this inexpensive rocket ins't for sale.
the nsx is got about 560 hp with the cybernation stage 3 turbo kit. trust me your diablo has no chance, but I sold it to a guy from the middle east, my brother paid for the mods and when we sold it we split the cash.
the 911 was a 86 carrera targa that i drove in high school along with the 85 928s, the carrera I sold after I repaired from a bad spin in the wet, and the 928s I gave it to my nephew last year, he is 14 , it had a dp motorsport wide body.
the 328 is worth about $45,000, the tr about $70,000, I made $35,000 on the nsx theres enough cash to buy a 94 diablo cash and and still will keep a chunk of change, there is also a gt2 porsche, a stradale, a gallardo , the new gt40, 512m, etc. But I am happy with my 328 and my testarossa, the rest were things to race and destroy, but I like this two ferraris way to much to let go. The thing is that my real hobby is flying and thats where I spend my money, I like helicopters and thats it. If I want to drive something faster than what I have all I have to do is grab my set of keys that my brother gave me so I can drive his red 6.0 diablo anytime I want, and he is selling it to the same guy from the middle east and he is buying a murcielago, I never said that I didn't like lamborghini, he loves them and so do I but I still think that ferrari is far ahead in this game of status and history. The real toy I might want to get is an Extra 300 german aerobatic airplane or a Northtrop T 38.
About your wife I don't know crap but I thought you said you were married to her for like 30something years, anyways it would be a low blow if it were true, even when mine is 18, anyways men stick don't joke around peoples family, my bad and one thing we don't joke around is about homo stuff, your bad. Those are the kind of insults that could make things ugly real fast, but I think none of this was personal. So I stretch my hand to where ever you are and accept and offer a handshake, are we clear?
Cheers
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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1489
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:40 am: | |
L. (Testaroja) , first a few things you should know:
A. a 944 Turbo is a great $3000.00 car. It will never out accelerate a Countach in stock form. I have loads of experience with 944 T's, including getting hit in one by a truck. In this instance, i can honestly say the car is very well built.
B. As for your turbo Nsx beating my Diablo, keep dreaming, as this another car i have loads of experience with, having owned 2.
c.You obviously have not seen pictures of my wife, but she is in her early 20's, while im in my early 30's.
D. I have owned every one of the cars you have listed in your profile, and none of them is a standout. Take the 911,928 and both 944's and buy a 911/930 Turbo, then make that a 700+ Rear wheel hp 930, and youll have a real Porsche. Then take the Nsx, 328 and Testarossa, and if your against Lamborghinis, add some cash and get a 512TR. Now you'd have 2 nice cars, instead of "MIRACLE IF IT MAKES IT A MILE" MOTORS.
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
I had a Testarossa for a very brief period. I was very disappointed in it. It had a Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde persona, one day run great, next day horrible. Performance was not anywhere near that of my Countach, and maintenence horid.
I am a fan of the 512TR, which is night and day to a TR, and a fantastic automobile, and one of the last great Ferraris.
Heres a pic i found of my Countach and older Diablo.
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Dave (Netviper)
New member
Username: Netviper
Post Number: 47
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:00 am: | |
L. (Testaroja) .. your NSX has a turbo? Which one? |
James Lee (Aventino)
Junior Member
Username: Aventino
Post Number: 139
Registered: 6-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:53 pm: | |
Autocars latest on the Ford GT has a Ford Exec saying that they're going after the 40% of Ferrari owners who would change if they thought Ford had brought out something better. The other 60% would stick with Ferrari regardless of how the Ford Gt performs.
I couldn't figure out if it was good or bad that Ford see so many Ferrari owners in love with the mystique over the product.
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L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 232
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:08 pm: | |
I'll try a space suit for that one |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 231
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:05 pm: | |
I can get along but allan is gone, now I'm alone without a fight but hope I didn't tarnish his pride, we didn't break a nail so allan don't hide like a snail, oh the hell with this crap where are you allan? |
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member
Username: Markpdx
Post Number: 1145
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 11:02 pm: | |
L.
If you have the time could you go yell at Gary Green a bit, it would be most appreciated. You wouldn't happen to have any pics of yourself wearing Nautica shorts would you? |
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member
Username: Senna1994
Post Number: 180
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:56 pm: | |
I thought Allan had a TR at one time, he always has been positive about TR's. I am not defending Allan nor putting down LTestroja here. So I am like the Swiss Neutral. I went to the Running of the Bulls when M. Andretti was there and he was a great guy. In the immortal words of Rodney King, "Can't we all get along!" |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 229
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:54 pm: | |
Mark you are most welcome. Allan should know that none of this is personal and we are just having fun, I am and hope I hope he is. My wife wants to visit Hawaii and maybe we can talk cars, thats if he is a good sport. |
MarkPDX (Markpdx)
Intermediate Member
Username: Markpdx
Post Number: 1144
Registered: 4-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:45 pm: | |
L.
It's a good thing you are around. With Bruce out of commission I was worried there were no any other Testarossa owners who could fight with Allan in all caps. Thank you for providing this vital service to Fchat. |
L. (Testaroja)
Junior Member
Username: Testaroja
Post Number: 227
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:38 pm: | |
allan those shitboxes aren't shitboxes, the 944 turbo will beat a countach in acceleration any day, and the nsx can make your diablo an angel its got a wonderful turbo system and yes that ricer will kick your CORNUTO diablo's butt all day and all night ( i can hear a yeah baby a la Austin Powers right now, only if you could hear me). OK NOW ITS YOU THE ONE PUTTING THOSE THOUGHTS ON OUR MINDS ALLAN, COME ON BE FAIR OLD BUDDY OLD PAL, ITS YOU THAT PUT COCK AND MIND TOGETHER AND IN YOUR OWN TWISTED FANTASY YOU DECICED TO TAKE A SELF PIC OF YOU SHOWING TO FERRARI CHATTERS HOW TO PUT YOUR HEAD WHICH IS GOT A SOME KIND OF MIND IN IT AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR UP, THE ONLY WAY YOU LIKE IT DEEP AND HARD, HEY YOU HAVE AN OLDER LADY FOR A WIFE AND YOU KNOW HOW THEY CRAVE YOUNGER MEN, BUT HEY YOU HAVE USED ALL THAT "up" AND MAYBE WITH THE WRONG HEAD SO I WOULDN'T TOUCH THAT NO EVEN WITH YOUR "right" HEAD , I MIGHT NOT HAVE A $200,000 DOLLAR CAR BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A 18 YEAR OLD WIFE, SO EAT YOUR HEART OUT AND YES YES YES FEEL THAT. I KNOW YOU CANT FEEL ME BUT YOU SURE YOU CAN FEEL YOUR HEAD GOING UP YOUR BUTT AGAIN , COME ON BABY GO DEEPER THIS TIME AND SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND , THE TURD LIVES... and you are still entitled to my opinion. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1488
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:26 pm: | |
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994) , I know some people are idiots. Makes for funny conversation.
I have never been to the Running of the Bulls, but a good buddy of mine went twice, and i have a very good video of it also, with Mario Andretti.
I think the next time i get a Countach it will be a late 70's 400S, which is lower than the later models. I will then modernize it with big brakes, and more power, update the a/c etc. |
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member
Username: Senna1994
Post Number: 179
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:21 pm: | |
This is a hilarious post, Allan, I saw the first LP 400 that ever came to the states at a place called FAI in Costa Mesa. Have you ever gone to the running of the pulls? |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1487
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:18 pm: | |
Oh, in case anyone wants to see what you look like with your head pulled out of your a$$. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Intermediate Member
Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 1486
Registered: 6-2002
| | Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 10:15 pm: | |
L. (Testaroja) , sounds like you really have cock on your mind. Im ok with that, but please keep it to yourself. It maybe acceptable out in Fairyland where you live, but not here.
I have one question, why dont you sell all those sh!tboxes in your profile, add (alot of money since theyre worthless crapboxes i.e. porsche 944) and get a real car? |
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