| Author | Message | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 392 Registered: 3-2002 |
And a wider view of all the cars...  | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 391 Registered: 3-2002 |
See comments below... here's the promised pic...  | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 390 Registered: 3-2002 |
Great event. Nice set of cars. No 360's (guess I should have put mine in), but they have an Enzo, an F50, among many other pristene Ferraris, including both of Rob's. Here's a pic or two to tempt you if you're nearby and are debating whether to drive by or not. Oh, and if you do, support the winery by buying some wine... so they keep doing this... their tastings are free if you buy a bottle... the LaBodega Cab and the Macpherson Sangiovese are both surprisingly good Texas wines. Cheers! [okay, picture upload not working... what's the trick?] | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2536 Registered: 7-2001 |
I'm probably the first one home since I didn't enter the car, here's a few pics: The Lay Collection  The entries from FOD, nice show!  My future Schumacher in the Ferrarichat racer  | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 116 Registered: 12-2002 |
From Jerry Lee Phillips, organizer of the show, "About 5 of us laid out the field this evening. The grass is very wet and there are 2 small areas that are soggy. However, all of the field is covered with grass and the approach into the field is small gravel which is good too. So, as they say, on with the show!" | ||
| Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member Username: Icars Post Number: 437 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hum let's see drive a going on 30 year old car 5 hours through major thunderstorms. Only Marci is that Crazy. See you in the morning, just have to install those mud flaps.. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 114 Registered: 12-2002 |
Garage Queen Weenies. There is a forecast of 0% chance of rain. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6275 Registered: 12-2000 |
Hasn't rained in Grapevine since at least about 5pm. I came home from work at 6:15 and 114 and Main was all dry. Cars won't melt anyway, although they might sink.  | ||
| Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member Username: Icars Post Number: 436 Registered: 3-2002 |
Several people seem to have been scared off. Our friends from Hot Springs look like a maybe @ best. Scratch a Jalpa, Espada & Mangusta, unless it has already stopped raining up north. Hopefully the drainage on side is good. Not worried about clearance with the Ferrari, but the Maserati on the other hand, might be a problem. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1516 Registered: 3-2001 |
Soccer game cancelled, Jeff will be there around 10:00 also. See you tomorrow... fingers crossed on the mud situation. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2534 Registered: 7-2001 |
We should be there around 10, will depart before noon. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1514 Registered: 3-2001 |
Jim, Bethany is going to drop Jeff off at the show before Abby's soccer game... probably from 11:30 to 1:00 or so. Hopefully you'll still be there with Adam and Alex? | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Advanced Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2532 Registered: 7-2001 |
Bob, is Jeff coming? The boys want to know. We'll be there in the am. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1513 Registered: 3-2001 |
You're right... the weather is supposed to be great (clear and 84) but the mud could be a killer... for the people looking at the cars too. BTW, I drove over to where the event is going to take place, really nothing up there at all. For some reason I thought this was going to be tied into Grapefest but it's really not even close... it's on a remote sidestreet 4 blocks north of Elliot's Hardware. Maybe we'll get lucky... let's hope it drains well. | ||
| Patrick (Ferrarifan)
New member Username: Ferrarifan Post Number: 14 Registered: 6-2003 |
Driving F-cars on 4 plus inches of rain soaked ground should be interesting!!! Did I hear someone say mudding? Have fun! =) | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 113 Registered: 12-2002 |
I hope it's not too wet out there on the grass tomorrow. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 544 Registered: 4-2002 |
Grazie! | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 112 Registered: 12-2002 |
www.italiancarfest.com | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 542 Registered: 4-2002 |
My wife and I want to see the cars pulling up. At what time should we arrive? She is a big fan as well, so she is very excited and I wanted her to hear them. Thanks, Marcus | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 111 Registered: 12-2002 |
The cars will be showing up early, so that should not be a problem to get a gander at some real quick. But there are no cars on Sunday. | ||
| George LaFleur (308geo)
Junior Member Username: 308geo Post Number: 75 Registered: 12-2002 |
Since I did not enter the show, and can't attend all day due to work, I plan on showing up REAL early to check out the cars as they come in (they look better in motion) and take some pictures of the show during set up. I'll have to scoot out a little after 10am. I'll be going back to sample wines on Sunday. Anybody else only able to go on Sunday that wants to hook up? | ||
| Jano Minassian (348_spy)
New member Username: 348_spy Post Number: 36 Registered: 11-2002 |
yes you have won. but no ferrari parts.hehehe | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 102 Registered: 12-2002 |
Susan won the auction! | ||
| Susan Hawley (Sue308)
New member Username: Sue308 Post Number: 15 Registered: 4-2003 |
We won the E-bay last ticket. Yeah!!!!! | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1495 Registered: 3-2001 |
I received a nice packet of stuff from this event in the mail today... personal invites you can send to invite friends, even came with envelopes. I think this is going to be a pretty good show. I'm looking forward to seeing these cars! BTW, if they take a q-tip to the bottom of mine, they'll get good, clean oil. | ||
| Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member Username: Icars Post Number: 411 Registered: 3-2002 |
I would not worry about scratches etc. I assume that part of the cost is event insurance. Last year we had somebody hit a Rolls with a purse @ Taste of Addison. This slightly dented a piece of window trim. The city of Addison paid for a new piece of trim and installation. You simply cannot put on a show without adequate insurance, unless your nuts... | ||
| Susan Hawley (Sue308)
New member Username: Sue308 Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2003 |
Tillman, We really appreciate the complement about the car. We would just like to go out and have fun with all the people involved in this wonderful event and enjoy the great cars. Don't get me wrong it is always great to place in car shows but not what brings us to them. I agree with you Rob, I don't want to make a fuss for this event or any other event, we drive our car and it shows. A Q-tip would not be required to see the dirt under our car. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6054 Registered: 12-2000 |
LOL, I think they last updated the site before Tony pulled through on the Enzo and Cali... Here are some of the spectacular cars entered: '73 Intermeccanica Indra '95 Ferrari 355 Challenge '85 Maserati Quattroporte '00 Qvale Mangusta '87 Lamborghini Jalpa '66 Maserati 5000 GT ...plus dozens of other classic Italian vehicles! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6053 Registered: 12-2000 |
Well, I haven't seen more people in a group pack heat than in a Ferrari crowd, except maybe a retired PD convention. I always feel safe, except maybe around G. Scott and he was DPD for several years.  | ||
| Francis Hassis (Fxh328)
New member Username: Fxh328 Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2003 |
Maybe we should pack heat? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6051 Registered: 12-2000 |
It's part of public shows. Taste of Addison was probably worse because of beernos and being in a high traffic area. I doubt we'll be in a high traffic area and with the Enzo and multi million dollar Cali I bet there's good security. All of these events will have insurance too if there are any problems. At taste of Addison I had someone lean against my car for a picture and there was a scratch, but later I found it was just in the wax. | ||
| Patrick (Ferrarifan)
New member Username: Ferrarifan Post Number: 12 Registered: 6-2003 |
I know I wouldn't want to deal with all the drunked-up winos and the little turd-head kids with sticky fingers trying touching my car, but that's just me. Maybe other people have more patience than me, but I know I be a nervous wreck the entire time. More power to those that can!!! =) | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2446 Registered: 7-2001 |
Good point Rob. Then my excuse will be: I'm not sure I can spare 6 or 7 hours on a Saturday. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6047 Registered: 12-2000 |
My philosophy for a show and that of others I respect is to show the car how it normally is driven. I just don't understand the effort and time to make a car 100% spotless. At many car shows they'll take off points if they can scrape a Q-tip under your car and get dirt. Crazy people! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2445 Registered: 7-2001 |
I'll be right there with you Tillman. I'll go as a spectator, but lack the time and patience to prep for a show. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 899 Registered: 11-2001 |
I was thinking of bidding, but Jerry and Susan's car is much more show material. I'll just wander by and check out the wax jobs on everyone else's car. Maybe someone can sneak me in upstairs | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 6039 Registered: 12-2000 |
I hope you and Jerry win. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2002 |
I don't think it will go for much. | ||
| Susan Hawley (Sue308)
New member Username: Sue308 Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2003 |
I hope not Rob, I'm the current bidder and as much as I want to be apart of the show I can't see paying that much. | ||
| Rodney Haas (Icars)
Member Username: Icars Post Number: 410 Registered: 3-2002 |
One bid so far. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5996 Registered: 12-2000 |
I can't see the auction at work, has anyone bid on it yet? What do you estimate it will go for? My guess is $200. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5985 Registered: 12-2000 |
Francis, no worries on my car, but you need to watch out for BobD's. The quick look at your car I couldn't tell much difference from Bob's. They are both seemingly perfect. | ||
| Francis Hassis (Fxh328)
New member Username: Fxh328 Post Number: 7 Registered: 6-2003 |
It's my car in the picture...... Good and bad.....good that it made e-bay....maybe I can sell it for more down the road? Bad, I was going to give it a good once over.....now there will be high expectations and I will have to do the Rob Lay paint job on the engine......much work to do, so little time! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5973 Registered: 12-2000 |
That's a pretty good idea. I've already got permission from Jennie to have FerrariChat.com girls for shows and calendars in the future. I'll be ebaying tickets to the photo shoot. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1479 Registered: 3-2001 |
Jim, you're right (glasses now firmly on - I hate getting old!). Those are the ugly convex wheels of a late 328. I wonder who owns it? That car looks pretty nice... damn, I guess that means I'll have to wash mine for this event.  | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 2392 Registered: 7-2001 |
Bob, Bob, Bob. You really need to spend more time looking at your car. The car in the pic is an '89! | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1477 Registered: 3-2001 |
Rob, is that your car in the auction? | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 97 Registered: 12-2002 |
The last entry is up for auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10368&item=2428827695 | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 96 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hehe, no most guys here are interested in sports cars in general, I know I am, and hot rods too, which the Pantera is really an Italian hot rod. But the Pantera windshield is right in your face, so you get lots of sun/heat. The original AC compressors weren't the best. I'm lucky, mine has an updated rotary compressor, and light colored interior. Helps a bunch. I seriously doubt they will be charging spectators. This is Texas, not Pebble Beach. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1472 Registered: 3-2001 |
Matt, we don't give you Pantera guys any heat on F-Chat, do we??? | ||
| CHAD STEVENS (Tahoecrs)
Junior Member Username: Tahoecrs Post Number: 90 Registered: 6-2002 |
how much is it for onlookers? what time does the event start 930? | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 95 Registered: 12-2002 |
I can handle it, Remember, I'm a Pantera owner. We're used to the heat! haha | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1469 Registered: 3-2001 |
Matt, that will depend on how well the A/C is working INSIDE. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 94 Registered: 12-2002 |
I think there were a lot of people waiting as well. Thats why Rob posted the August 4th message warning people they were near capacity. I don't imagine people will be socializing that much inside, with all the cars outside. | ||
| George LaFleur (308geo)
New member Username: 308geo Post Number: 40 Registered: 12-2002 |
The show is FULL? That's what I get for procrastinating. I was holding out to make sure I could get out of work that day. I know I can still attend and have fun, but I wanted to be able to go into the "air-conditioned private meeting room--for registered participants only (not open to the public)--where they will have wine tasting, munchies, etc... Anyone know how strict they are gonna be on this? Part of the event is hanging out with other owners and talking shop... | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 93 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yes, car show entrants will be participant judged. If your car isn't registered (filled to capacity now), then you won't be on the lawn for showing. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 182 Registered: 5-2003 |
Rob, thanks for your very quick answer. May I ask what is the advantage or benefit for showing the car or registering? Is your car get graded? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5949 Registered: 12-2000 |
Registered you show your car, Visiting you look at everyone elses car. | ||
| Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
Junior Member Username: Tiger_ace Post Number: 181 Registered: 5-2003 |
I have been to the festival few times since 90's, and it is fun. However, I am confused on this post. I thought originally the post was for advising of the event so F-chatters would visit there. But it also seem to gather F-chatters to register. What is the difference between "registered" & "visiting" the show?????? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5946 Registered: 12-2000 |
Neat info from Jerry... Ferrari Maserati of Dallas has a positive word on having the new Ferrai Enzo at ItalianCarFest in Grapevine, Tx. Sept. 13: It looks one will be there. This model goes 0-60 in 3.3 seconds and has a list price of $643,300. It is styled like nothing else on the street. Also look for an F-50, a Daytona, and a California Spider. Thought you might want to get the word out. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5817 Registered: 12-2000 |
Better than the several red 328's and other Ferraris that will be there. Should be orginal color wise. I'm going more for just hanging out than showing the cars. Maybe someday I'll have a concours V12, but not today. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 849 Registered: 11-2001 |
Do you guys think the show needs Yet Another 328? I'm thinking about doing this show, but I'm not sure that a rock-chipped grey 328 is really that interesting. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5810 Registered: 12-2000 |
Looks like this is turning into a really big thing with regestrations about ready to max out this week. FoD and the Lamborghini dealer are also getting involved in a big way. I've got my two entries in. Here's the email I just got from Jerry of the FIAT club... Greetings, all! The final early bird applications have arrived and I want to thank you all again for promoting the show. Bob Dezzany and I revisited Cross Timbers Winery last Saturday and had another meeting with the owner. Preparations are already underway: signage, the lay-out of the field, designated parking for trailers and non-show vehicles. Although most yards are showing signs dry, hot weather browning, Cross Timbers is watering 24 hours a day to keep the grass green for our show Sept. 13 . Currently we have registered 59 cars and 9 cycles. A second direct mail piece went out Friday 8/1 to the same mailing list of Alfa, Fiat, Lancia & Maserati owners that we used for our first mailing. We expected a surge right before Aug 1st, but we did not anticipate what an overall huge response we received. I wanted to tell you this to give you an opportunity to communicate to your Italian car friends and let them know registration will likely end within a week or so. One change: We have asked new entrants to limit themselves to one car. This week, those interested should check our show web site, ItalianCarFest.com, before mailing in an application. (When we are at capacity we will post this information.) By Aug 9, applicants might want to contact me at 817 521-4400 or Bob at 214 827-2086 to discuss availability. Further, to increase awareness of the show, we will be auctioning an application for ONE car on eBay the last week of August. One can type "ItalianCarFest" (one word) in the search box to pull up the item. As most of you have heard, Ferrari-Maserati of Dallas is in as a sponsor and they are pulling out all the stops. And they have promised to tap their collectors to bring some fantastic, rare cars. Lamborghini of Dallas registered three. Further, if available, the newly introduced Ferrari Enzo (see Road & Track, July 2003) and Lamborghini Gallardo (see car & Driver, July 2003) will be on the grounds. It is possible these new models will be at ItalianCarFest before arriving in dealer showrooms! Because of the timing, it is not certain these two incredible cars will be on display, but both Ferrari-Maserati and Lamborghini dealers are making the effort. Thanks, again for your help. With the entusiasm of you and people like you, ItalianCarFest will prove to be the fun, upscale event we've been working toward. Jerry | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5612 Registered: 12-2000 |
Oh thanks, I forgot all about registering. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 90 Registered: 12-2002 |
Just a reminder...after August 1st, the entry fee goes up to $40. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1320 Registered: 3-2001 |
Damon, my Triumphs and MGs experienced similar symptoms... but overall, Fiats were probably more reliable cars. That's a scary thought, huh!?!? | ||
| DamonB (Prova7)
Junior Member Username: Prova7 Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2002 |
BobD, those X-1/9's don't leak near as bad when they are empty I know, I drove one for a while. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5388 Registered: 12-2000 |
Good question Tillman, without getting the exact answer. FCA requires special insurance for moving events like we did for the Poker Run. There is a general umbrella policy over the club that may cover events like shows. Usually the organizing group has some type of coverage as well. My 328 got scratched (later buffed right out) at the Taste of Addison show. There was an event insurance that would of covered it if I wished. Might be a question if this is truely a FCA event or not, probably not. Right now we're just advertising it to the FCA list as an "other" event like we do with the MAFFIA events. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 79 Registered: 12-2002 |
Fiat Club is who is sponsoring the event. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Intermediate Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 1306 Registered: 3-2001 |
Tillman, I dated a young lady with an X1/9 years ago. I remember asking her if she'd ever changed the oil. I didn't get much of a response so I decided to check the level. I could blow the dust off the dipstick, I mean it was dry to the bone. Pretty amazing, the car ran so much better with oil. Actually it was a fun car... but very slow. I'll bet you'll see several at this event. I've registered. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 704 Registered: 11-2001 |
One of the benefits of paying $135/year to FCA is supposed to be insurance (mainly liability) at offical FCA events. That's why I'm asking these questions. Is this an actual, offical FCA event or are we piggybacking on your event? Either way is fine with me. Are there going to be any X1/9s there? I'd love to see one of those again. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wouldn't your insurance on the car in general cover it while at a show? | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 702 Registered: 11-2001 |
Rob, Do our FCA dues cover the entrance cost? Are we covered under FCA insurance while there? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5378 Registered: 12-2000 |
FYI, this will be part of the FCA schedule. | ||
| Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
Junior Member Username: Ghostridr Post Number: 77 Registered: 12-2002 |
ITALIAN CAR FEST 2003 - Saturday, September 13th. The Fiat Club of North Texas will host the 1st annual All-Italian Car and Motorcycle show - ItalianCarFest 2003 - during the 17th annual GrapeFest in Grapevine, Texas. GrapeFest, the largest wine festival in the greater Southwest, is an annual four day event held in historic downtown Grapevine. GrapeFest attracts over 200,000 vistors annually with the largest attendance being on Saturday, the day of ItalianCarFest 2003. The venue for the show is Cross Timbers Winery. This almost 2 acre setting is located four blocks north of the festival area. All cars and motorcycles will be displayed on grass. In addition, the property includes a two-story air-conditioned facility with the first floor containing an area for hospitality and sponsor vendor tables and the second floor containing a private lounge area where complimentary wine, soft drinks and snacks will be served to show participants. (Private lounge is not open to the public.) Food, wine and soft drinks will also be available for purchase by the general public. A shuttle service will be provided to and from GrapeFest and Cross Timbers Winery. For more information, please see: http://italiancarfest.com/ |