A new disk drive will need to be added if he does Moderator note: Please see Post #32 for guidelines. This thread is intended to air personal grievances but standards for civility will be maintained and enforced at all times.
You say it as if "moderator" is a title of reverence that one must aspire to. I never saw it that way, but apparently you do. So it must have stung all the more when it was taken away from you!
You know what, Andreas still has an ear to the mod forum, how about we get him to ask Rob Lay what really happened and then you can scurry back under that log you came out from under ? You have spread this lie for years with no rebuttal and I have asked for it to be cleared up before, maybe this time something will happen , my emails only go back to 2008, it was 2007 I asked to be removed from the mods list as I was only a mod for the Aussie forum while it was in disarray, unlike today 360C was also a mod who asked to be removed, maybe he was kicked out as well You're on shakey ground because like everything else in your posts, it's all best guess with no hard facts, maybe the +1ers will save you
Can we get this back onto the topic of F1 please gents? Moderators are interesting creatures and all, but we're not as cool as F1 drivers. All the best, Andrew.
Mike - don't want to get into it again like we did last night - but I think that's the big issue (let's forget the right or wrong conversation)... {snip} Kevin
Damn straight. I've been modding Oz a long, long time. Of his own volition, moretti made requests to be unmodded from Oz. Nobody asked, suggested or told him to do so. Without further ado, condition or explanation ["ace"], it's not that hard to; [A] Figure out. Apologize.
And you could apologize for always jumping into threads where there's any arguing to take a swing yourself. Listen, do you remember years ago when I PMed you to try to bury the hatchet? We were butting heads on the forum and it seemed better to put it to rest. Afterwards, it seemed everything was good between us and we'd joke back and forth. I really have no idea what happened in the past few years to change it, but I think it was better before. Do you agree?
This is a public forum for posting opinions, I had P&R deleted from my menu years ago due to {people} like you who refuse to acknowledge other people's views that disagree with yours, I'm very similar but I won't write war and peace to drown a persons mind in dribble You turned into a {person I don't like}, I'm still the arsehole I always was but I NEVER spread LIES about another forum member which would NORMALLY have drawn a ban but you are getting a free ride. I see Wax has also replicated what Neurobeaker said in PM to me, so it's time to man up and apologise for lying about me being kicked out of the mod forum .... or aren't you man enough ??!! I've apologised many times when I have been out of line with other members and strangely you and I had a bet re Kimi winning the 07 WDC which I won and graciously refused your generous offer of buying me some beer. For some reason known not to me you became hostile towards me but there are plenty of people in the world and you can pick and choose your friends, I , like Webber, will retaliate if provoked, which is why we will ALL be watching with keen interest the rest of the season in F1. If you apologise we can bury the hatchet, in my head if you like , I am just guilty of making smartarse remarks and "trying to be funny" , it's how others interpret the post that is sometimes the problem .... which is why I was glad jcosta took my post to him the right way, it's all fun and nothing anyone says here will change the outcome of a race
John, We both like to argue and we both think we're right. Some years ago, it was obvious that it was consuming a lot of bandwidth on the forum and other people didn't want to wade through it... so I PM'ed you to resolve things. We exchanged several PM's and everything seemed fine. I made it a point never to insult you or belittle you personally after that - but I never censored my opinions about anything. Perhaps you felt I was becoming hostile towards you from that - but from my perspective, I thought everything was fine between us - and then it seemed like you got a bug up your arse and would post in every thread where there was an argument to dog pile and insult me. And like you, I responded. Obviously we have different perspectives on who did what first. RE: the moderator thing - I was not spreading lies about you. I don't remember how I heard about it at first, but I have a vague recollection of hearing the story from another mod after one of our fights. But I was not aware that a definitive answer had been reached until you complained to the mods this time around, and Andrew looked into it and Wax posted. Yep, I was wrong that you were fired. That's the tree. The forest is you and I butting heads *constantly*. You're right - when you jump into a thread and make a comment - I don't take it as "just joking" anymore than you took my comment as just joking. I find it irritating and I am sure you find my retorts irritating. I don't think we would hate each other if we actually met in person, and I don't think you would disagree that the forum would be a better place without you and I trading venom back and forth. So what do you say to a mutual apology for past grievances and an honest attempt to be nice, regardless of how much we disagree on the issue? I think that is better for us individually, better for the moderators, and better for the forum as a whole. Do you agree?
Mike, http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/142208712-post149.html Obviously lying has a different meaning in the US ^^^ This demands an apology but I see you aren't man enough and want to save face by trying to have a "joint" apology Whatever happened in the forum between you and me is just forum head butting, but lying about a member of the forum is a clear breach of morals. Two mods have now told you what happened, stop trying to save face and just apologise or I think the mods should ban you permanently for lying. I'm sure if we met in person you'd be charming but right now you can stop saving face by trying to get me to apologise for arguing in an open forum like everyone else does . Is not an apology when you are defaming someone publicly
It's not about saving face. It's about the fact that you make a comment, then get upset at the reply, then complain to the moderators that you're being treated unfairly. I made it a point to not initiate contact with you, but you didn't do the same. I tried to bury the hatchet, but if you don't wanna, there's not much I can do. Manning up would be apologizing for what each of us has done, but you don't want to do that. In just the last few posts, you've broken the forum rules plenty of times, so don't complain about enforcement favoritism. I told you where I stand, and my solution. That's that.
Ok boys; enough. We've all said things in the heat of the moment that we regret. Take it offline. This is just a dumb F1 forum; no one is at war here.
Fwiw - mike & I went at it last night and, right or wrong, I didn't feel good about it.... Partially because my f-ing hockey team was playing pathetic, again....
Seriously, are you deluded ? This was very simple, I asked a mod to put you straight re my previous mod status, they did. I asked for an apology for being lied about, you didn't, weak morals ?, bully not liking his fate as pointed out by moderators ? Wax : --------------------------------------------- Damn straight. I've been modding Oz a long, long time. Of his own volition, moretti made requests to be unmodded from Oz. Nobody asked, suggested or told him to do so. Without further ado, condition or explanation ["ace"], it's not that hard to; [A] Figure out. Apologize. ---------------------------------------------- I can see why you like Vettel, same BS attitude, both standing in quicksand
Boys, give it a rest or take it private. I highly doubt anyone else on the board gives a damn about your pissing match. Mark
Like I said, I wasn't aware that it was incorrect until I got the definitive answer from Andrew yesterday. That's not a lie, and I'm not apologizing to you for lying. I've acknowledged that. I get that your feelings are hurt, and that slighted feelings on both sides were why we bickered in the first place. I suggested a resolution for that, but you refused. I get it... it's not about resolution, it's about "I'm mad as hell and I want to get even". I'm not gonna play that game with you - and once again, the membership is expressing it's opinion that the bickering is detrimental to the forum. So, I'm done trying.
