Ferrari vs McLaren my take

IMHO we should cut and paste this thread onto a Mac forum and move on.

 

Both great cars, its a matter of personal preference. I personally would take a Ferrari, why? I really don't know exactly, but I just know I always wanted one.

 

ferrari for normal doors, engine sound, cavallino shields

mclaren for ability to go into dealership cold and just buy the car you want.

 

And beg for them to take it back a year later for $100,000 less than you paid for it.

 

My neighbor's car. He doesn't know/care much for 70 years, ferrari history, etc. He's a bentley type of guy. He's never going to track or go on a drag strip. However, his teenage kid does know a lot about cars and influences the decisions.

He bought a 458 then complimented it with a 650. He traded 458 and got a 488 spyder. He's now trading in the 650 for a 720s. He fits the mold of most people I know.

 

Why would you trade it in after only a year. I buy cars to drive and takes several yrs for me to get to know it properly. Thats only time im ready to move on. People who trade in every year 1. Make no sense to me and 2. Should know theres financial downside.

and dont forget to take ferraris 100k over sticker purchase into account. Or the 4 seater you never wanted in 1st place they made you buy....

if I b uy a 570 spider for list and keep it 4 yrs, I think I'd end up just fine depreciation wise

 

A lot of people have. Ferrari too. Why? You have ask them. Maybe they want the latest model. McLaren seems to obsolete their products faster than any other maker I know of.

 

tough crowd

 

He asked a good question though.

Someone who bought a 458 in 2010 then sold for a 2011 458 spyder and then what? Wait for 2014/15 speciale.

Buy a car, keep miles low then sell fast and go into what and how long are you going to be out of a car? If you want to stay in your car until the next model releases and not be out of a car for any period of time then you are going to have to hang onto it for a few years and you will feel the depreciation.

 

Am I the only one here that thinks McLaren interiors look generic? I mean truly generic, yes i have seen the moving parts of the 720 dashboard etc. but the richness of the leather, steering wheel etc look awfully bland for a sports car. In addition, imo the Mclaren's lack road presence, almost reminds of the Lotus brand (too small) But perhaps the greatest tragedy is holding its value, that just about sums it up for the company. Why would anyone purchase a new Mclaren knowing the steep drop is right around the corner. Look at the 2016 488's holding their value relatively well even though the spyder has been revealed.....Mclaren's can only dream of such a value proposition

 

I'm a speciale owner and owned a number of ferrari's which were just all about bought new.

458 bought for 291K, traded in for $240K seven months later with 2K miles
2015 f12 bought for $370K, put on 4400 miles in one year. Wholesaled for $280K
2009 scud bought for $198K in 2014 and sold about 1.5 years later for $215K (original owner took a big loss on it).

oh; btw the 488 interior looks the same as 458. 720s is much different than previous models which were similar (12c, 650, 675). I have a 720 and 675 and previously had a 650.

If I bring out 720s and a 488 is around then 720 get all the attention (big part of it is because it's a new model and hasn't been seen by many people).

 

1. Because they're rich and don't care.
2. Because they make a lot of money and don't care.
3. A 1.5 year old 570S is $40-50K under MSRP, not $100K.
4. A P1 is over MSRP.
5. A 675LT is $50-60K under MSRP after 2 years (last time I checked).

You seem to take one detail about the 12C and apply it to every car they've made or made. Not really sure why.

 

Other than 12C/650S, when has that happened?

 

Never confuse a tough crowd with an honest crowd.

 

I dunno. Ask your buddies on the Mac sight. They seem to be upset

 

I liked my MP4-12c more than my 488GTB. And I'm being completely honest. I don't understand what the fuss is all about. It was simply a better car.

 

McLaren (Newport, 500 miles away) picks up my car and sends it back. It's actually quite convenient.

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Because many Ferrari owners buy cars to impress their friends and leveraged half their net worth in doing so. They freak out if it depreciates which why they don't drive them and so many cars with 1000 miles. For them it's a business opportunity, not a sport car that it is.

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I will not disagree with you.

 

Being completely objective, absolutely yes, this the saddest part about Ferrari ownership. I had a chat with the service guy at Ferrari in town and he told me very few owners drive their cars. He stated most 488GTB owners take their car to Starbucks and right back home where they pose as garage queens. If so many owners could actually afford the car they would drive the hell out of it, not worried about BS resale values. maintenance etc. Ownership for many is purely a facade, certainly not what Enzo envisioned. These cars are meant to be driven and about 20% of owners actually do so....

 

So what you're saying is that you're wrong and just making stuff up. Am I understanding you correctly?

 

I wanted a 60's Mustang and ended up with a Ferrari [Mondial]. Since that fateful day I have bought (replaced) two further Ferraris and three Alfas. My missus looks a little Italian (she's not) and cooks great Italian food, we holiday every year in Italy and I've been to Maranello no less than four separate occasions since 2010.

Despite being massively proud of McLaren being British (one of only a few) I would buy a Ferrari.. or maybe that Mustang one day

 

The newer younger buyers don't even like CARS.

 

And my old 348 tb was simply a better car than a 720S. I don't understand what the fuss is all about. Seriously?

 

I think Ferraris are a work of art. Whereas McLaren is mote mechanical.