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Unbelievable!! Wheel Wizard Atlanta Georgia

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  1. bcwawright

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    #1 bcwawright, Nov 15, 2007
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    Never have asked for help, but am in much need now.

    These are pics of F355 magnesium wheels which we did a long term test on. They were completely refinished by Wheel Wizard in Atlanta Georgia. Immediately upon completion they were placed back in the boxes and stored in a climate controlled storage area....tires were never mounted, and the wheels were never put on a car.

    After being in a PERFECT controlled enviroment for 6 years this is the results. Remember this, IF these wheels were properly prepped and sealed they should have lasted 25+ years in a climate controlled enviroment.

    I have called and emailed with NO RESPONSE. It is clearly evident that either they don't know what they are doing, or their materials and procedures for refurbishing magnesium wheels is majorly flawed.

    This should be a wake-up call to all who have,or planning to have, magnesium parts refinished. There is a "Right" way and a "Wrong" way and if you don't know which is which you could wind up in the same boat as me. I found out about these people from a Ferrari dealer and just assumed that they were up to speed on magnesuim wheels......

    It makes me soooooo angry when a company will not owe up to their mistakes......instead of trying to work something out they just ignore you as though you were nothing. I am tired of companies like this who take your money and then snub their nose at you like you when they are at fault.

    If you can call and email that might get their attention.......if nothing more it will show that we are truly a community/brotherhood that cannot be ignored when one of us is wronged.

    Thanks in advance to all.


    email: [email protected] Jonathan Cazenave(Mgr) or Wendall Davidson(owner)

    Phone: 1-770-451-6333

    Toll Free Phone: 1-800-615-2203

    Again, many thanks for your support
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  2. plugzit

    plugzit F1 Veteran
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    Done. Maybe these guys are subcontractors for Kinesis.
     
  3. bcwawright

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    Many thanks Bruce, I greatly appreciate the help of the "brothers"......I am still trying to find a way to help you out with Kinesis....will be talking again with them today I hope.

    Atleast your finish was good, minus the big cracks...lol
     
  4. BT

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    That's horrible. I have read other bad experiences with magnesium wheels. Hope you get it resolved.
    BT
     
  5. 285ferrari

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    Bruce---Is it just the finish that is bubbling? Or the whole wheel messed up?
     
  6. billyfitness

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    I have heard that Wheel America does the best job. I have to send my M3 wheels there this winter but am afraid to send the 355 wheels due to what you guys just said: Magnesium Alloy.
     
  7. bcwawright

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    Robbie, the clear coat and powder coating are intact...they are elastic enough. What has happened is the mag alloy was not properly prepped and sealed alloying it to corrode....that corrosion is pushing up the top coats which are able to expand with the corrosion without cracking.
     
  8. mseals

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    Bruce, a rather strong email has been sent...

    Mike "just as pissed" in Kuwait
     
  9. bcwawright

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    Mike, thank you and all the others for the help. Not sure if this company will budge, but it is nice to know the "family of brothers" is there for support.

    I would do the same for all who have been wronged!!!!
     
  10. 285ferrari

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    That is pitiful-----You would expect the company to at least look at the wheels to see what caused it. What a bunch of Aholes!!!
     
  11. bcwawright

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    Might want to check out the thread I started over in "Technical". Some people think you are wrong if you stand up for what is clearly a defective job by Wheel Wizzard.

    Thanks for your help Robbie....it is greatly appreciated!!!
     
  12. gothspeed

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    :eek: that is horrible....:( :( .........email will be sent :mad:!!!
     
  13. PAP 348

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    VERY annoyed to hear this Bruce! :rolleyes:

    I emailed Jonathan with a link to this thread and told him that you have been trying to get in contact with him. :)

    Hopefully he will man-up and get a hold of you mate. :)
     
  14. bcwawright

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    Thanks to the infamous, "Downunder" brotherhood for your support....and especially you PAP!!

    In a way I'm glad this happened to my wheels even though I'm outraged....Oxymoronic kinda thinking?? No, and I'll tell you why. I have been working with magnesium alloys for 40+ years, and know that these wheels for a fact were protected in my climate controlled storage(never mounted or used in any way) which has an enviroment better than a hospital surgical room.

    Even though I've worked with these alloys on race cars, I took these street wheels to what I thought was a highly professional shop who was technically best suited to do an expert job on the refinish. I didn't interfere with their procedures or practices and relied solely on their expertise to do the job correctly, just like most of the average owners/consumers would do.

    I have been very nice towards WW. I called and let them know about the problem,sent an email with pics showing defects, and waited...NO Email....called 5 other times and left name and number....NO returned calls. It shouldn't have to be this way,I'm not at fault......I did nothing but pay for their service....I didn't dictate the process, nor did I cause the magnesium to corrode.

    As I've already stated: "if my problem can keep others from making this same mistake, I'll feel as though good has been accomplished even if my own wheels turn into a pile of magnesium oxide.
     
  15. bcwawright

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    Thanks OZ....I know that you understand this situation with magnesium. I appreciate the support.
     
  16. zero

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    Can i ask why were the wheels stored away as an experiment/long term test for 6 years? What was the reasoning behind the experiment? What were you hoping the results to be? Did you suspect this company? Were the wheels placed into plastic bags and then into boxes? Could it have been trapped moisture that caused the bubbling? Is it just the paint that has lifted or have you scraped away the paint to reveal the magnesium underneath and is it damaged? Sorry about so many questions but i am really interested to know.
     
  17. bcwawright

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    Well he got a hold of me in the most un-manley way..EMAIL!!!...lol

    Dr. Bruce Wright

    Dear Sir,

    Thank you for your recent inquiry about warranty for your magnesium wheels. Due to the age of your invoice, we will decline warranty coverage.

    Sincerely,
    Wendell DavidsonPresidentWheel Wizard


    Kinda guessed this result.

    I will be at PRI(Performance Racing Industry) in Orlando,FL in December and will have these wheels on display with the WW markings and invoice for all to see. As a matter of fact I have already booked a booth for next years SEMA show, and will be at most of the Import Tuning shows and NOPI.....also have a company interested in the wheels to demonstrate the pit-falls of the current wheel refinishing industry and their product for comparison.

    I am also filing a complaint with the BBB and will probably file a claim in Small Claims Court for Metro Atlanta. Atleast I am not going to give up the fight until every avenue is exhausted.......I may loose, but I'm fully prepared to do battle...don't care about the wheels at this point it's all about the principle...
     
  18. gothspeed

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    They could have at least offered to redo them at a discount....:confused:

    I guess the bad PR is worth the small short term savings of offereing some consolation to you.....:eek:
     
  19. bcwawright

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    PR seems to be of no concern to them......not trying to hurt them, they will do that to themselves.
     
  20. RobS

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    You should have told them that they were magnesium wheels.
     
  21. mseals

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    Surely they can recognize Magnesium wheels at least two out of three times when they see them!

    Mike in Kuwait
     
  22. Dice996C4S

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    Wait... are all F355 wheels magnesium or just this specific one ? I thought they were alloys ? no ?
     
  23. zero

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    ???
     
  24. AHudson

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    I don't usually venture to this forum but noticed the subject line and had to investigate. In March, I sent a set of Magnesium wheels (Campagnolos for a Pantera) to WheelWizard in Atlanta from a strong recommendation via a person very well known in Pantera circles. He had terrific results, photos of same, high praise all around for their competent work on his identical magnesium wheels. He is quite vocal, quite knowledgable, so that's all the recommendation I needed.

    After sending my wheels, three weeks pass and they tell me, "We don't do magnesium" which was interesting since my emails and phone calls clearly specified the material. So my wheels get sent on another joy ride to another shop they recommended in Tennessee who was even less reliable. Different story for another time.

    Point is - - given my opening paragraph, I believe something or someone changed at WW... for the worse. I'm sorry this happened to you, even more so that you'd entrusted them to take prudent steps and were charged accordingly.

    At this point, after reading your 'public' intentions, they'd be better off buying you a new set... and possibly growing a set of their own.
     
  25. MarkCollins

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    All 355 Originals were Magnesium
     

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